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Title: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: Mooning Freddy on May 06, 2011, 08:12:32 AM
I'm playing Fallout 2, and I'm totally addicted. It's like an RPG, but for adults.
No magic or wizards or "save the princess" quests or any of that crap.
Instead, you've got a dark, post-apocalyptic world filled with drugs, gangsters, whores and slave traders.
Nobody gives a damn about you and with the wrong choice of actions you'd very quickly be dead.

The thing I like most about the game is the realistic approach the game picks.  You are not limited in any way. You could help people and complete quests or kill everyone you meet. No "you can't attack him 'cus he's a good guy" bollocks. Your ally NPCs die and you want to resurrect them? Well, you can't. But you can kill them yourself or sell them as slaves. 
The game gives you almost no limitations. Now that's really awesome.
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: Gecko on May 06, 2011, 01:53:24 PM
Fallouts 1 and 2 are awesome. I have yet to play through either completely, but I too really love all the options. It's got some dark humor in there as well. A great experience.
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: Cypress on May 06, 2011, 03:58:24 PM
Haven't tried the first 2. I hear all my friends talk about 3 so I got it but there are a lot of glitches and freezes and even more in Fallout New Vegas. So much so that I refuse to buy that one.
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: Profbeanburrito on May 06, 2011, 04:03:41 PM
Both fallout 3 and new Vegas have patches that fix the bugs. Once you get those it works fine. I've rarely had Problems with either
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: X on May 06, 2011, 04:16:59 PM
My bro has both fallout 3 and New Vegas. I've seen him play fallout 3 but I've never been comfortable playing such expansive games. It's like Fabel; there's a huge open world to explore at your leisure, do quests when you want and other things. For me, I get lost on them because there's no fixed directional play. I know a lot of you would argue otherwise but I'd prefer to play a traditional RPG. It's just that much more simple for me.

-X
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: JR on May 06, 2011, 04:58:41 PM
I kind of agree with this. I got burnt out on the Final Fantasy series (they've always been fun to play, but I'm just getting tired of them). I played Fallout 3 last year and I'm hooked. I bought New Vegas and the Fallout Trilogy, too, but I haven't had the chance to play any of those yet. I really can't wait to play the first 2 games, even moreso than New Vegas.

Also, on the Point Lookout DLC for Fallout 3, throwing a grenade at one of the hillbillies in VATS is one of the funniest things you can ever do in a game. 
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: darkjak951 on May 06, 2011, 09:27:13 PM
I love Fallouts 1, 2 and Tactics. Fallouts 3 and New Vegas are dreadful games that are poorly programmed and have no soul. Honestly when I look at the first fallout games, I see a world that has a unique vibe with unique characters. Fallout 3 and NV took that away from me, now we get a bland wasteland that is so devoid of color. I mean not that I am expecting much from a post apocalypse, but seeing the same shades of gray, green, and brown hurts my eyes after a while. Oh and New Vegas was a MASSIVE letdown. From early trailers it looked awesome, with the whole vegas theme. Playing the game itself though, that was only a SMALL PORTION of the game. New Vegas was just one small colorful area in a big BROWN wasteland, similar to the Green/Grey wasteland of the original ONLY A DIFFERENT FUCKING COLOR. I won't get into it further, there is just so much I hate about those games. Fallout 1 and 2 though are amazing classic rpgs and they should really make another one like that.
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: Aridale on May 07, 2011, 02:01:42 AM
I liked new vegas way more than I liked regular fallout 3. Both are really good tho. Even better if you like Oblivion
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: ShinAkumaXX on May 07, 2011, 02:19:24 AM
I have Fallout 3 GotY Edition for 360 and like it a lot. I haven't had any issues. Though It updated when I got it, so I'm sure the problems were fixed. GotY stands for Game of the Year, so it must be a pretty good game right? If you get it, I'd definitely recommend this version. Or you'd have to pay probably a hundred bucks to separately download the add-on stuff. I'm pretty sure IGN and a number other sites list it as one of the Best 360 games available. I've also read it has more problems on PS3, as well as Oblivion for that matter.... On PC as long as you have a nice computer I'm sure you'd be fine. Basically everything I've read says Fallout 3 is Better than New Vegas. I think I'll wait for Fallout 4 to buy another one of these. By the time that comes out it will probably look fancier than Skyrim will. I have been interested in Fallout 1 and 2, and Tactics, been thinking of buying the collection of them. I really don't play games on my PC much though. Besides Blizzard older Blizzard stuff like Star Craft and Warcraft III. As far as Final Fantasy goes... Loved them always, I have all the PSone releases. For PS2 I only bought XII. My favorite was Tactics by far in any case. I think I'm just not into JRPG's anymore now. After playing the newer Western RPG's on my 360, I just don't think I'm interested in playing a new JRPG. I still love the ones on my older systems.... So Fallout rocks, Mass Effect rocks even more, Dragon Age and Oblivion rock also. I think we've had enough Final Fantasy. I'd always wanted another Tactics, but I don't think that will ever come to a home console. Maybe Final Fantasy 15 will turn me back though? I've had no interest in any other newer JPRG's on 360/PS3 though... I think I liked them a lot more when the characters were 'super deformed'. To me all the Japanese characters look all the same and way too pretty, especially in Final Fantasy. Just seems lame...
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: Oralox on May 07, 2011, 03:02:27 AM
Yeh I've played only fallout 3 and new vegas, but im hooked on mass effect.
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: Nail_Bombed on May 07, 2011, 06:30:49 PM
F3 and FNV are awesome... keep going back to them and finding new stuff to hunt for and do. Love the sandbox approach, the atmospherics and the general feel of them. Have got the original Fallout games but haven't had time to look at them.
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: Dracul on May 10, 2011, 02:32:26 AM
I love all of the fallout series and final fantasy up to 6, maybe 9 too.
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: darkjak951 on May 10, 2011, 02:50:36 AM
I don't really think it's appropriate to compare Fallout to Final Fantasy though. They both have different settings, one is fantasy and the other is post apocalyptic and the gameplay for the games are generally different.
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: Dracul on May 10, 2011, 02:58:28 AM
I have to agree other then final fantasy adventure (eventually became mana series), battle system is totally different. But as far as recognizable rpgs these and Zelda, World of Warcraft, Oblivian seem to be the most known.
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: Joachim on May 10, 2011, 05:11:29 AM
Fallout 3 was interesting for about an hour. And then I left the vault.

That was it, for me; nothing after that could even pretend to hold my interest. Everything about it just descends into this absess of mediocrity, this kind of meaningless meandering that plagues the overwhelming majority of western RPGs.

The complaints about "lack of color" when bandied about as objective criticism are amusingly dumb, though.
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: darkjak951 on May 10, 2011, 10:03:59 PM
The complaints about "lack of color" when bandied about as objective criticism are amusingly dumb, though.
I was complaining about it in Fallout 3 and NV because it just irked me, it's not the colors that detracted much from the game but rather the gameplay itself and just how dull the world felt to me. The shooting felt too loose and imprecise and I had to end up leaning on VATS often, way more than I wanted to since it is also important to conserve your AP. Maybe it's me just sucking at the game, but it just wasn't for me.
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: Kale on May 10, 2011, 11:58:07 PM
I'm playing Fallout 2, and I'm totally addicted. It's like an RPG, but for adults.
No magic or wizards or "save the princess" quests or any of that crap.
Instead, you've got a dark, post-apocalyptic world filled with drugs, gangsters, whores and slave traders.
Nobody gives a damn about you and with the wrong choice of actions you'd very quickly be dead.

The thing I like most about the game is the realistic approach the game picks.  You are not limited in any way. You could help people and complete quests or kill everyone you meet. No "you can't attack him 'cus he's a good guy" bollocks. Your ally NPCs die and you want to resurrect them? Well, you can't. But you can kill them yourself or sell them as slaves. 
The game gives you almost no limitations. Now that's really awesome.

I see.... magic and wizards automatically means kiddy... I guess Bible Black is kiddy too huh?
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: Ahasverus on May 11, 2011, 12:09:01 AM
I'm really getting a sense of anti-western games mind around in the forum these days but I hope I'm wrong.
No doubt, Fallout 3 is a great experience for what it is (Don't expectshiny graphics or epic boss battles), I can live without new vegas though, it felt too amateurish for my tastes (obsidian obviously)
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: Kale on May 11, 2011, 12:17:08 AM
If you're refering to me, then no... I'm not. I am more inclined, probably, towards japanese rpgs, but I do like Dragon Age, though not it's story. I liked Neverwinter, Diablo, and such.

That said, Fall Out 3 sucks imo, I could not get into it at all. Oblivion was okay for abit, but it got boring pretty fast too imo. I need Diablo 3 and Torchlight 2... waiting sucks.
Title: Re: Screw Final Fantasy! Anyone tried Fallout?
Post by: darkjak951 on May 11, 2011, 01:34:37 AM
I'm really getting a sense of anti-western games mind around in the forum these days but I hope I'm wrong.
No doubt, Fallout 3 is a great experience for what it is (Don't expectshiny graphics or epic boss battles), I can live without new vegas though, it felt too amateurish for my tastes (obsidian obviously)
Honestly, people have their tastes. Possibly a good amount of people on this forum like JRPGs. I like both western and jrpgs equally, like Kale though I just disliked 3 and loved the hell outta the first 2 along with Tactics, which is pretty under looked.