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Title: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on February 13, 2012, 11:15:17 PM
Yamane. Dear, sweet, talented Yamane. With your help, Castlevania found it's new identity, it's new defining spirit, for a decade, and then some.
You have given us amazing music time and again. When the games themselves faltered, your soundtracks helped make the experience that much better.

We all have our favorites. Some like Symphony of the Night, others like Order of Ecclesia.
But this is hardly about something so trivial. This is about YOU. No matter the game, your music contributed indelibly to their identities. Even if you weren't the only composer, your spirit could be found in every song. With your music, games that otherwise would have started to blend and blur together became more unique, and yet familiar in a warm and comforting way.

My biggest regret? That you could not have remained longer.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: X on February 13, 2012, 11:39:08 PM
Yamane didn't do all of the music in SotN. In fact there were three composers (Yamane being one of them). the real tribute to her should be how she was introduced to the world of Castlevania by doing the music for Castlevania: Bloodlines. That was her first work in the series and thought the Genesis limitations held her back in some regard it didn't stop her pulling off a good soundtrack. I did choose SotN since it was the one I remember most of her talents.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on February 13, 2012, 11:48:58 PM
By the way, who composed Chaconne C. Moll in the Saturn Version? It's obviously not a Yamane piece, but it's amazingly awesome all the same.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Puwexil on February 14, 2012, 12:33:03 AM
Gonna quote myself on the topic of who did what for Symphony.

Akira Yamaoka is credited for "rhythm arrange" on two tracks, Dracula's Castle and The Tragic Prince. As in, he programmed the drums. Yamane still gets full credit for composing all the songs except two that are remixes from Rondo, and I am the Wind which is by Rika Muranaka and crew. All you can really find to argue otherwise is an ambiguous recollection by Yamaoka himself -- "I helped compose" -- but you can't really tell how far-reaching the implication of something that vague is.

That's really all there is. Yamane is even the arranger on Blood Relations, presumably meaning she also handled Dance of Illusions, the other Rondo-derived track.

As for the Saturn-exclusive songs, the Beginning and Bloody Tears remixes found their way on the Akumajou Dracula Best Music Collections BOX anthology release, being credited to Kaoru Okada (the co-composer of Legends, another KCEN project at the time), Junko Karashima and T. Ohsono. The two lone original tracks from that version - Chaconne C. Moll and Guardian - could also be by them, but who knows.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: KaZudra on February 14, 2012, 01:25:31 AM
Curse of Darkness still has one of the best soundtracks ever.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Sumac on February 14, 2012, 08:09:48 AM
LOI. Absolutely the best.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: K.G. Morder on February 14, 2012, 09:15:51 AM
Castlevania Bloodlines Music - The prayer of a tragic queen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPGZJhxI4xE#)

Prayer of a Tragic Queen is like the big brother to Wood Carving Partita.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: beingthehero on February 14, 2012, 11:57:20 AM
Yamane gave us easily the best soundtracks, besides the lads who did SCIV's music. Granted, some of her DS tracks could get weak, especially for DoS. On the other hand, her OoE stuff was great.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: shelverton. on February 14, 2012, 12:49:29 PM
As much as I dislike Curse of Darkness as a game, it has THE best soundtrack on the PS2. Yes, I said it. It's flawless IMO.

And Symphony of the Night, oh Symphony! It's crazy good too. I chose CoD but it was a close one.

I love Yamane. Order of Ecclesia was, however, the soundtrack that made me feel she should move on to something else. It's still a great collection of songs, but there was a bit of filler in there to be honest.

EDIT: I didn't think Yamane had anything to do with DoS, did she?
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Sumac on February 14, 2012, 01:01:22 PM
I absolutely didn't like her work in DOS and POR, but in OOE she once again made an outstanding job. Soundtrack fits the game like a glove. I'd say the music is a very big part why I like OOE. It is moody and melancholic.

In general I think that CV1, SCV4, CV64, LOI and OOE have the best soundtracks in the old series. And I am mean not only quality of the songs, but how they fit the game alltogether.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: beingthehero on February 14, 2012, 01:19:17 PM
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EDIT: I didn't think Yamane had anything to do with DoS, did she?

She did half of it, while Kimura did the rest. Incidentally, he did the best music (like After Confession).
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kaori on February 14, 2012, 04:29:10 PM
I love Symphony's, and Lament's is alright, but I SUPER loved Curse of Darkness' OST. It has the best OST in the whole series, in my opinion. In fact, I think I'm going to have to almost agree with shelverton. I think it has one of the best PS2 OSTs. I'm not sure if I'm willing to say the best, but it's certainly in the top 5 on the PS2, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: K.G. Morder on February 14, 2012, 07:43:08 PM
Well considering theres only 2 PS2 CV games...
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: uzo on February 15, 2012, 06:05:56 AM
I believe she means all PS2 games, Castlevania or otherwise.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: beingthehero on February 15, 2012, 06:46:16 AM
CoD's stage and cutscene themes are excellent, but I always thought some of the boss music could be better. They were kind of samey, except for Drac's and Issac's respective battle themes.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Chernabogue on February 15, 2012, 08:10:26 AM
Curse of Darkness still has one of the best soundtracks ever.
This.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on February 15, 2012, 03:11:05 PM
CoD's stage and cutscene themes are excellent, but I always thought some of the boss music could be better. They were kind of samey, except for Drac's and Issac's respective battle themes.

A Toccata into Bloodstained Darkness is still one of my favorite boss themes of all time.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Gecko on February 15, 2012, 03:20:33 PM
Lament of Innocence. I LOVE those songs. It's one of the Castlevania soundtracks I've always loved to listen to outside the context of the game. Highlights for me include Leon's theme(near the end of the game, with that badass piano), House of Sacred Remains, Joachim's boss fight theme(I know it's technically a Symphony remix, but whatevuh). Also, Gardens forgotten by Time, and the Aquaduct. Cool music.

EDIT:
Hey, why isn't Bloodlines on here? She did that one, right?
And I can't remember if she did Harmony of Dissonance, but if so, where is it?
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on February 15, 2012, 03:34:55 PM
Bloodlines, while amazing, was not a soundtrack I counted among her best, so I lumped it with the "something else" option. To me, Curse, Lament, and Symphony are her best works, in that order.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: beingthehero on February 15, 2012, 03:57:44 PM
Yamane did Knight Head (boss rush music) and the VK 2002 remix.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Munchy on February 15, 2012, 04:18:33 PM
Love pretty much all her music except for some of CoD and PoR. I think once you listen to one person's music a lot you get to hear some of the repetitions and other stylistic stuff they do... which has kinda ruined some of the aforementioned games' music for me. Like Yamane's stock arpeggios that are way abused in CoD (see Followers of Darkness #1, The Curse of Darkness, Mortvia Aqueduct, etc) and PoR (Crucifix Held Close), but for every one of those there are a good number of brilliant tunes like Victorian Fear or Jaws of a Scorched Earth.

What I want to know is what Soshiro Hokkai is doing these days (if that's his correct name, HoD and Nanobreaker composer)?
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: K.G. Morder on February 15, 2012, 04:46:51 PM
Yknow what track i really like from Lament?

Walter's battle theme.

Castlevania Lament of Innocence - Dark Night Toccata ~walter's Theme~ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDB9tbYfb_0#)
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: beingthehero on February 15, 2012, 05:02:14 PM
Yesssssss! Lament had the best battle themes, especially for the Golum. But man, Walter's was pure power. The first time I played Lament, I was reminded of Chronicles' arranged version of Bloody Tears, for some reason.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Lumi Kløvstad on February 15, 2012, 05:06:32 PM
Walter's battle theme was full of power. Just... raw power. It stands tall among Yamane's work, and could easily go multiple rounds with Proof of Blood, Dance of Illusions, and A Toccata into Bloodstained Darkness for a contest of best final battle theme in Castlevania, although I'd hand Dance of Illusions the battle for "Most Iconic Final Battle Theme" in the franchise.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Gecko on February 15, 2012, 06:28:40 PM
Yamane did Knight Head (boss rush music) and the VK 2002 remix.

Ah, okay. I remembered that she'd had something to do with the soundtrack, I just wasn't 100% on how much.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: uzo on February 15, 2012, 06:45:43 PM
I picked SotN, not so much based on technical achievement, but it feels the most balanced of the OST's. It is so varied and takes from a bunch of different styles. You can really see Ayami mixing it up and branching out into other territories and achieving very good results.

Lament and Curse are still top contenders for me none the less though.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Sumac on February 16, 2012, 09:39:45 AM
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I picked SotN, not so much based on technical achievement, but it feels the most balanced of the OST's. It is so varied and takes from a bunch of different styles. You can really see Ayami mixing it up and branching out into other territories and achieving very good results.
And that's my biggest problem with SOTN OST. It's so disjointed. It doesn't create a unified picture. It's like some bits and pieces were thrown in, without much care how they clash together. And while by themselves, those tracks are excellent, combined they create some strange puzzle picture, as if created from different pieces picked up from different puzzles, IMO.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: uzo on February 16, 2012, 03:56:08 PM
Your opinion sucks.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Sumac on February 17, 2012, 09:40:39 AM
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Your opinion sucks.
Same to you.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Dark Nemesis on February 17, 2012, 11:05:28 AM
Your opinion sucks.

I second that!!!
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Sumac on February 17, 2012, 01:23:11 PM
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I second that!!!
You forgot to drink your coffee? 'Cause I don't see multiple exclamation marks anywhere...

And by the way, you could elaborate a bit, why my opinion sucks, instead of just being pathetic barking scavenger.  :)
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Dark Nemesis on February 18, 2012, 03:42:27 AM
You forgot to drink your coffee? 'Cause I don't see multiple exclamation marks anywhere...

And by the way, you could elaborate a bit, why my opinion sucks, instead of just being pathetic barking scavenger.  :)

I'm not a fan of coffee, i rarely drink coffee and your opinion sucks, because SOTN has one of the best works from Michiru Yamane, along with some other and every track fits perfectly the atmosphere of the stage that it's playing. I don't see any puzzle, unless you have been confused with the remake Castlevania encore of the night.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Sumac on February 18, 2012, 09:20:41 AM
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I'm not a fan of coffee, i rarely drink coffee and your opinion sucks, because SOTN has one of the best works from Michiru Yamane, along with some other and every track fits perfectly the atmosphere of the stage that it's playing
It looks like without exclamation marks you ability to think is drastically reduced.
I wrote in one of the posts before that I think that tracks in the SOTN are excellent. I never said that they are bad. I just said that sundtrack as a whole have a disjointed feel. It doesn't mean that I hate it.
I hope this time you will be able to understood what I wrote properly. For that I recommend you to drink some coffee and put some exclamation marks in your posts.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Corpsecrank on February 21, 2012, 05:05:12 AM
I think sotn had the best music of the bunch but I love the classics a lot too. Dawn of sorrow had a pretty good set of tunes too and I liked the music in Portrait of Ruin.
Title: Re: Symphony of the Lament of the Curse of Darkness: A Yamane Appreciation Thread
Post by: Ridureyu on February 26, 2012, 12:50:37 PM
I like Wandering Ghosts way, way too much.