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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: Corpsecrank on February 21, 2012, 09:44:17 AM
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Why is it that the sega castlevania games seem so appealing and then you play them and they make your brain bleed a little mostly from frustration but partly because it is that much of a let down.
I did own a saturn which never got a castlevania since this region never got nocturn and I didn't own a genesis when it was still that generation of console so I never got to play bloodlines in it's day. I did get to play dracula X and scv4 etc and I did get to play sotn all during the time they were the newest in the series. I still haven't gotten to play the dracula x remake or whatever on the psp despite owning one. I just can't justify buying a copy. Though it can't be as awful as the sega castlevanias.
So years later I get emulators and start playing all the stuff I always wanted to and never got to. I almost wish I had never done that. No I do wish I hadn't actually. Now that I have I can't unsee and unhear the awful experiences I had. It's painful really. I had hoped for some new stuff to see and do and then the carpet was yanked from beneath me so to speak.
With the exception of sony no other company has had a castlevania game worth mentioning on their hardware. I'm not even going to consider that new game part of castlevania because it pisses me off kind of like the ps2 games but worse.
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Bloodlines was awesome, except for the horrid John sprites. BUT OTHER THAN THAT!
And DXC is worth every penny.
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Nah I have to say bloodlines was crap but more because the sega was crap. The sound is awful and the control is pretty bad too. It could have been a lot better on different hardware. But the story is pretty bad too.
I might eventually pick up a copy of the psp game it's like 10 or 15 bucks I think on amazon.
But really my point is that konami just never gets it right outside of the sony and nintendo games. I don't know what the deal is but I think they just have a poor attitude towards the less popular hardware. You can see it by the lack of effort that went into the sega lineup the most though. Bloodlines was bad and there was very little effort put into porting sotn on the saturn so little so that the result was never fully localized. Furthermore the dreamcast game got canceled so you can see the downward spiral they went on with sega. They seem to be doing a lot better with the sony hardware but the current trend hasn't helped. We went from sotn to the awful PS2 games and now an even worse game which also made it to xbox360. The only thing saving the series are the DS games they released in between. Castlevania has become almost entirely portable these days since consoles have not gotten a title worthy of the name in ages. Even the 64 games were a bit of a miss. I think the best way to bring the series back under control is to go back to the tried and trusted 2d metroidvania style with modern features and graphics. Look what sotn did for the series and the resulting 6 portables that spawned from it. I would say that is highly successful in comparison to the console games that have been released since.
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You kinda lost me immediately here. Bloodlines was great. I think I'll leave it that.
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The Sega Genesis is great too. I remember playing Sonic 2 for the first time...
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Ok, there is few things that I want to clear:
With the exception of sony no other company has had a castlevania game worth mentioning on their hardware. I'm not even going to consider that new game part of castlevania because it pisses me off kind of like the ps2 games but worse.
So, according to your statement, Castlevania 1, 2, 3, Super Castlevania 4 (that considered by many people as one of the best games in the series, next to SOTN), Rondo of Blood, Castlevania Adventure 2, Circle of the Moon, Aria of Sorrow, Order of Ecclesia are all not worth mentioning.
Did I understood it right or there is some miscommunication problem?
Because if I understood what you have written, as it is, it basically means that according to yuor words, most of the series is crap and even games that appreciate by practically every single fan, is shit an there is only SOTN and nothing else?
Nah I have to say bloodlines was crap but more because the sega was crap. The sound is awful and the control is pretty bad too. It could have been a lot better on different hardware. But the story is pretty bad too.
While I personally not big fan of Genesis, and there is some things that I dislike about that console I must say that Bloodlines was one of the best classicvanias in the series. In terms of graphics it was very good. There were ceratin limitations, but Konami managed to work around them and make the game good looking. Also the game was rich in special effects, even more so than great SCV4.
Gameplay was interesting. The idea take action from the castle was awesome and it's sad that it wasn't used very often in the series.
The only thing that was not so good about this game, was music, but in the end it wasn't very bad. And some compositions actually sounded very nice, even taking Genesis specific sound hardware in account. Certainly not horribly jarring or annoying.
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@Corpsecrank, cranker of corpses
I really liked Bloodlines, while the graphics weren't technically brilliant, they really played with their setting and created a bunch of memorable moments. I think it was a lot better at utilizing all those graphical effects than Super Castlevania IV. I loved the music too.
How do you feel about Bloodlines compared to SNES Dracula X? You mentioned that you got to play it, but I thought it was one of the worst Castlevanias.
The Sega Genesis is great too. I remember playing Sonic 2 for the first time...
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> Bloodlines
> Crap
pick one
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Nah I have to say bloodlines was crap but more because the sega was crap.
We cannot be friends.
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Ok, there is few things that I want to clear:
So, according to your statement, Castlevania 1, 2, 3, Super Castlevania 4 (that considered by many people as one of the best games in the series, next to SOTN), Rondo of Blood, Castlevania Adventure 2, Circle of the Moon, Aria of Sorrow, Order of Ecclesia are all not worth mentioning.
Did I understood it right or there is some miscommunication problem?
Because if I understood what you have written, as it is, it basically means that according to yuor words, most of the series is crap
This is a great question above^^^
If what your saying is indeed true and you think that all the other hardware besides Sony has crappy Castlevania games than I would really just have to disregard any of your statements regarding Castlevania in the future because it would seem that the only CV game you actually like is Symphony.
Nothing wrong with that since I to love Symphony of the Night, but, saying that the rest of the series is crap seems pretty absurd to me as a longtime CV fan.
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With the exception of sony no other company has had a castlevania game worth mentioning on their hardware. I'm not even going to consider that new game part of castlevania because it pisses me off kind of like the ps2 games but worse.
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The only thing saving the series are the DS games they released in between.
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What the fuck dude? Bloodlines had some of the best tunes in the series! Reincarnated Soul, Sinking old sanctuary, Iron Blue Intention and Calling from Heaven!!! The graphics were just fine and some would argue this is one the best games in the series. And furthermore, the Genesis did not suck it many great games. I'll admit that I did prefer the SNES between the two, but the Genesis still had many great games. If you younger gamers can't appreciate the classics then go play Call of Fucking Duty or something mindless like that.
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Genesis had the classic Sonic games. Any other point is therefore invalid.
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I suggest people stop feeding the troll and move on to other matters, bwhaha.
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Troll thread is now a Bloodlines appreciation topics.
It's still one of the gorier games in the series. I like how sometimes you can manage to decapitate the harpies, plus the silly amounts of blood in dracula's castle. I liked how the factory level in Germany meant the game was actually aware of, hey, this takes place during WWI instead of mentioning it and the prologue and never bringing it up again.
The inclusion of minibosses was also great. I don't think any other game has done that since, right?
The only thing that grinds my gears are the crow sound effects. It's definitely...something to hear them quack. Also the crystalline sound effects for the whip were kind of eh.
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CV3 had the Phantom Bat and Medusa as minibosses.
CV4 had Puwexyl.
But Bloodlines had consistent minibosses (every stage had one). The castle was dripping with Blood (Blood Countess's fetish, perhaps)? It also had interesting bosses like the Gear Spinner and the Pillar of Versailles.
Also, Sinking Old Sanctuary and Calling from Heaven. :D And Requiem for Nameless Victims.
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Ok, there is few things that I want to clear:
So, according to your statement, Castlevania 1, 2, 3, Super Castlevania 4 (that considered by many people as one of the best games in the series, next to SOTN), Rondo of Blood, Castlevania Adventure 2, Circle of the Moon, Aria of Sorrow, Order of Ecclesia are all not worth mentioning.
Did I understood it right or there is some miscommunication problem?
Because if I understood what you have written, as it is, it basically means that according to yuor words, most of the series is crap and even games that appreciate by practically every single fan, is shit an there is only SOTN and nothing else?
While I personally not big fan of Genesis, and there is some things that I dislike about that console I must say that Bloodlines was one of the best classicvanias in the series. In terms of graphics it was very good. There were ceratin limitations, but Konami managed to work around them and make the game good looking. Also the game was rich in special effects, even more so than great SCV4.
Gameplay was interesting. The idea take action from the castle was awesome and it's sad that it wasn't used very often in the series.
The only thing that was not so good about this game, was music, but in the end it wasn't very bad. And some compositions actually sounded very nice, even taking Genesis specific sound hardware in account. Certainly not horribly jarring or annoying.
No I meant no other company outside nintendo and sony you miss read that or I wasn't clear enough. Castlevania is a series that has been 90% nintendo I am talking games outside the nintendo hardware specifically with the exception of sony does that make more sense?
CV3 had the Phantom Bat and Medusa as minibosses.
CV4 had Puwexyl.
But Bloodlines had consistent minibosses (every stage had one). The castle was dripping with Blood (Blood Countess's fetish, perhaps)? It also had interesting bosses like the Gear Spinner and the Pillar of Versailles.
Also, Sinking Old Sanctuary and Calling from Heaven. :D And Requiem for Nameless Victims.
Yeah but scv4 had mode 7 backgrounds and rotating stages and you could swing from the whip and ride a chain through the clock tower and on and on I mean seriously a much better game and much better quality sound to boot. Simon's theme I mean comon! CV3 seemed like a better game also even being an 8bit game it had a forking path and more playable characters and I think more stages overall. Kinda puts bloodlines to shame if you ask me. But bloodlines was the best of the sega line of cv games. It just wasn't on par with the other games in the series of that era.
@Corpsecrank, cranker of corpses
I really liked Bloodlines, while the graphics weren't technically brilliant, they really played with their setting and created a bunch of memorable moments. I think it was a lot better at utilizing all those graphical effects than Super Castlevania IV. I loved the music too.
How do you feel about Bloodlines compared to SNES Dracula X? You mentioned that you got to play it, but I thought it was one of the worst Castlevanias.
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Dracula X was bland. scv4 was a better game I thought. I played scv4 first and it left a lasting impression on me. Being able to swing from the whip made the game a lot more fun to play than dracX where it felt like I was playing an 8bit cv game again due to the limited and clunky controls. But some people think that dracX/rondo are way better than scv4 maybe because it is more true to the originals who knows.
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Yes. Yes YES! Bloodlines has one of the best soundtracks in the series! I may prefer the music in Super Castlevania 4 because it's so sophisticated and unique, but Bloodlines is soooo catchy and awesome from start to finish it's almost a tie. I don't even know if you can compare the two. They're two different kinds of fantastic. And I actually like the genesis soundchip in this particular game. It sounds rich and pretty sweet. It's not like Sunsoft's Batman or anything, but no other genesis game managed to do that. At least not that I know of.
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Yes. Yes YES! Bloodlines has one of the best soundtracks in the series! I may prefer the music in Super Castlevania 4 because it's so sophisticated and unique, but Bloodlines is soooo catchy and awesome from start to finish it's almost a tie. I don't even know if you can compare the two. They're two different kinds of fantastic. And I actually like the genesis soundchip in this particular game. It sounds rich and pretty sweet. It's not like Sunsoft's Batman or anything, but no other genesis game managed to do that. At least not that I know of.
Yeah I mean don't mistake me here the soundtrack is awesome but the hardware does not do it justice. I think that was misunderstood in my original post. The audio capabilities of the genesis were laughable. Just like the audio from a GBA is horrid but the music from CoM was pretty good despite the hardware playing it as if it were coming from a 1950s transistor radio.
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If loving FM synth is wrong I don't ever want to be right.
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If loving FM synth is wrong I don't ever want to be right.
Moved and seconded.
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Castlevania Bloodlines - Stage 1 [Genesis] Music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSn1f-Xz8go#ws)
Groove my fellow dungeonites. Shake it like you mean it.
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guys, realize, that you cant argue with this:
But of course, I mean textures. Even if not in exactly the same format, each texture has coordinates for the specific reusable portion of the image grouping. It's the same exact concept as traditional tiled 2d graphics, for the same exact reason. Reusability, centralization, and resource efficiency.
I don't agree though.
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the control is pretty bad too.
bloodlines was an early cv game to allow you to walk up and down the stairs more easily and less annoyingly and you can jump off and back on them. also the heroes could either go farther horizontally or vertically to cross over hazards that would have been otherwise impossible to navigate
i personally found bloodlines to be one of my favorite megadrive games 8) : aside from fewer stair problems, it gave us eric, "iron blue intention" which gave me that 'i can do this!' kind of feeling, "reincarnated soul" was great too, and a certain extra treat for setting the music and sound effects to certain numbers
though i just wish some of the bosses were more challenging
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Also: whip swinging from ANY ceiling surface.
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Also: whip swinging from ANY ceiling surface.
Word, Simon belmont may be able to swing from grapple points, but John Morris? From any fucking ceiling he damn pleases.
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@ Flame that has to do what with this thread? And yet I am called a troll like 10 times today because of my opinion alone.
And no I did not agree so what? When did I lose the basic human right to form my own opinion on a subject? But forming an opinion is trolling and cross posting with the intent to cause drama is not?
I am confused by this because it is the reverse order found on the rest of the internet.
If loving FM synth is wrong I don't ever want to be right.
Hey what you love and I loath may be one in the same. I mean people love dubstep am I right?
I'm not saying it is necessarily wrong. I am only saying that I think it sucks. It's fine if some people prefer bloodlines over another game. My point is that I think it's crap for the reasons I stated.
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I wasn't being literal, just putting forth my fondess for the subject matter. Hate on in peace~
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Calling from heaven up in this bitch!
Castlevania Bloodlines Music - Calling from heaven (Stage 6) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cENqIz_x5jU#)
Soooo good.
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Dracula X was bland. scv4 was a better game I thought. I played scv4 first and it left a lasting impression on me. Being able to swing from the whip made the game a lot more fun to play than dracX where it felt like I was playing an 8bit cv game again due to the limited and clunky controls. But some people think that dracX/rondo are way better than scv4 maybe because it is more true to the originals who knows.
Oh I wasn't calling Bloodlines better in SCV4. I just felt that the tech-demo-ish segments in Bloodlines contributed more to its level design than SCV4. Though I do prefer Rondo to SCV4, but it isn't at all for adhering to the classics, but that's a separate baby.
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@ Flame that has to do what with this thread? And yet I am called a troll like 10 times today because of my opinion alone.
And no I did not agree so what? When did I lose the basic human right to form my own opinion on a subject? But forming an opinion is trolling and cross posting with the intent to cause drama is not?
I am confused by this because it is the reverse order found on the rest of the internet.
Hey what you love and I loath may be one in the same. I mean people love dubstep am I right?
I'm not saying it is necessarily wrong. I am only saying that I think it sucks. It's fine if some people prefer bloodlines over another game. My point is that I think it's crap for the reasons I stated.
because that wasnt an opinionable deal. You cant make your own "opinion" on how tiling works and how it's used, because it works a certain way and is used a certain way, no "I disagrees" about it. if you want to MAKE a new way, go right ahead, but dont try and say they dont work a certain way when they do.
Thats what that means.
thats like disagreeing that the sky is blue or that we are in a castlevania forum.
If you can't agree to something that is a certain way and is that way for a fact, how can we argue with you?
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Nah I have to say bloodlines was crap but more because the sega was crap. The sound is awful and the control is pretty bad too. It could have been a lot better on different hardware. But the story is pretty bad too.
I might eventually pick up a copy of the psp game it's like 10 or 15 bucks I think on amazon.
But really my point is that konami just never gets it right outside of the sony and nintendo games. I don't know what the deal is but I think they just have a poor attitude towards the less popular hardware. You can see it by the lack of effort that went into the sega lineup the most though. Bloodlines was bad and there was very little effort put into porting sotn on the saturn so little so that the result was never fully localized. Furthermore the dreamcast game got canceled so you can see the downward spiral they went on with sega. They seem to be doing a lot better with the sony hardware but the current trend hasn't helped. We went from sotn to the awful PS2 games and now an even worse game which also made it to xbox360. The only thing saving the series are the DS games they released in between. Castlevania has become almost entirely portable these days since consoles have not gotten a title worthy of the name in ages. Even the 64 games were a bit of a miss. I think the best way to bring the series back under control is to go back to the tried and trusted 2d metroidvania style with modern features and graphics. Look what sotn did for the series and the resulting 6 portables that spawned from it. I would say that is highly successful in comparison to the console games that have been released since.
This is somewhat a opposite from me in my opinion Lords is good not the best but really good in the end after I look back on it and it was MS first good title cannot wait for the next one, I just got Bloodlines it has scenes like bloody fountains and the dark twisted atmosphere of the tower of pisa freaking rocks the music rocks (if I can stand 8-bit this will not hurt), the 64 titles (while the first 3d titles) did bring classic cv conventions into the third dimension. Yet what really gets me a bit sour I guess is that you just want a more up to date metroidvania as you said there were six of them, six metroidvanias do you not want something else? Maybe a new classicvania that goes back into the series roots like what donkey kong country did maybe a 3d title that goes about following the conventions of the classics, somehow an all new adventure "_______vania"? And yes while there were six titles in the metroidvania format (only two(or three) really did well in the financial area Sotn and Cotm but that is really an other matter to talk about) all the others started to dwindle down till there were nothing more than a copy paste format so in the end what the series needs is too have fresh blood not a glossy rehash of the metroidvania format, a format that for one I think we have had just way too much of. One of the reasons why I love bloodlines is because (despite it being older than all metroidvanias)is that it just feels really fresh to me I do not know if that makes sense but it just does. Yes it is a classicvania so it should not be that different right from the others right but it just does to me (when I play the ds titles I do not feel anything really special or diffenent from them heck I do not feel much from any of the metroidvania except Cotm and maybe Harmony it's not that their bad but their just really boring I guess and you have systems like dss, soul, glyphs,ect but yet no dice for me). Also while I am at it what is your opinion on rondo of blood for the pc-engine that was on a less popular system?
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No I meant no other company outside nintendo and sony you miss read that or I wasn't clear enough.
The second one.
Yeah but scv4 had mode 7 backgrounds and rotating stages
That were small part of the game, while CVB has special effects almost in every single stage.
Yeah I mean don't mistake me here the soundtrack is awesome but the hardware does not do it justice.
This is where I certainly agree with you.
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That were small part of the game, while CVB has special effects almost in every single stage.
My favorite is the reflection on the water.
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My favorite is the reflection on the water.
My favorite was battle with a demon on top of moving tower (and the Tower of Pizza as a whole). It was really spectacular.
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Oh jeez, that gargoyle fight is my least favorite because you keep getting spun around. But it DOES look nice.
And yeah, the water reflection is my favorite too.
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The visual trickery in Bloodlines was always interesting because a lot of it directly affected the surrounding game mechanics, not just serving as pleasant window dressing. The Leaning Tower of Pisa would sway back and forth, necessitating platforming precision, and the top would rotate wildly, bringing a chaotic element to the boss encounter. The final stage had a segment where the entire playing field appeared distorted as though viewed through a cracked mirror, and an upside-down portion right after, which in addition to looking great further mixed up the level design. There's a sense of fun present in how the developers poke and prod at the limits of the usual Castlevania formula with neat little gimmicks that are still directly related to the core mechanics of the whole affair.
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My favorite was battle with a demon on top of moving tower (and the Tower of Pizza as a whole). It was really spectacular.
That part blew my mind, I didn't think the Genesis was capable of pulling off effects like that without the 32X.
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Forgot to mention part (that Puwexil mentioned) where screen cracks into several lines and you need to observe your heroes legs to make proper jumps, since his body is a bit ahead. It was very impressive and tricky. Maybe not as impressive as rotating tower, but interesting nonetheless.
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Oh yeah that part blew my mind. Prolly my favorite part of the game. Bloodlines had so many original ideas that weren't used in any other Castlevania that came after. This is why I love it so much. It looks so fresh compared to other CV titles who not only rehash the graphics, but the gameplay too.
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you can play Bloodlines on the Nomad & experience Bloodlines anywhere
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Then right after you can pick up your DSi & play Portrait of Ruin to make the connection o.o;;
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I really love the concept of the game and i would love to see a new game with the same concept, fresh graphics new game play, e.t.c.
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you can play Bloodlines on the Nomad & experience Bloodlines anywhere
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Then right after you can pick up your DSi & play Portrait of Ruin to make the connection o.o;;
That's funny; I just picked up a Nomad last week, and what do you think I've been playing on it ever since? Bloodlines, of course. :D
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The Sega is, without question an older, inferior 16-bit system as was the Turbo Graphix-16 before it. But despite all the system's flaws, the Genesis did have an impressive library and I find myself wondering at times what Contra: The Hard Corps and CV: Bloodlines would be like if they were on the SNES instead.
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I think they'd lose their appeal, at least in the sound department (besides sound effects). For Contra's rock-and-techno-heavy soundtrack, it absolutely shines on the Genesis's FM sound chip. The SNES was good as orchestral music, but the Genesis excelled when it came to rock and techno (like Streets of Rage). Heck, Bloodlines and Ys III proved that the Genesis was great even at orchestral music.
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you can play Bloodlines on the Nomad & experience Bloodlines anywhere
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Then right after you can pick up your DSi & play Portrait of Ruin to make the connection o.o;;
Gotta love that terrible backlight bleed :( Of course, I got my Nomads well after 2001, and they weren't really in their prime I suppose. How's yours holding up, PFG?
I usually took along Revenge of Shinobi or Shadow Dancer, anyway.
I don't think some of the fake rotation stuff works well in Bloodlines (nor in Contra Hard Corps, actually) but the water reflection effect was great. Great music here too.
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I want a Classicvania for two simple reasons concerning Metroidvanias: 1) There are too many Metroidvanias with very little useful new content added, and 2) the classicvanias have shown over the decades that they are at the core of advancing the series.
I'm sorry, but I see no significant difference between SOTN and OOE. I tire of them just as quickly, they feel just as repetitive, and both feel like they just throw in enemies willy-nilly at times, more so than the classicvanias, I mean.
But we had CV1 and then CV3 (skipping the obvious) which added some new gameplay mechanics (not just the swappable heroes). The series detoured to the Gameboy and I don't count that as anything of real value, except maybe the rolling eyeballs. You can't say "Oh they had 6 classicvanias before the SNES!" when the Gameboy ones were downgrades to the formula (ropes? seriously?). Ok, I do kinda want ropes in a new Castlevania game, but within limit, not as the primary means of ascension. Then we got Bloodlines, SCV4 and Akumajo X68000 and Rondo, all great additions to the Classicvania saga with additional mechanics (not to mention the she-wolf :D). And with the return of Shinobi now on the 3DS (my buddy and I couldn't beat the first level the first time we played it), there's no reason to not bring back classicvania's platformer action. Because really, metroidvanias are for pussies who are afraid of heights. :-X
*jumps off ihs roof*
I STILL HAVE THREE LIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiivvvvvessssssss ss.....
[Engraved on Tombstone]
"He sucked at platformers"
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To be fair CVA subseries wasn't completely useless. CVA2, to my knowledge, is the only game in the series, where you can choose stage Megaman style. And without CVA there wouldn't CVA2.
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To be fair CVA subseries wasn't completely useless. CVA2, to my knowledge, is the only game in the series, where you can choose stage Megaman style. And without CVA there wouldn't CVA2.
Well, if you really wanna get picky, LoI allows that choice as well. Just not in a stage select screen.
As janky as it is, I like CVA.
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To be fair CVA subseries wasn't completely useless. CVA2, to my knowledge, is the only game in the series, where you can choose stage Megaman style. And without CVA there wouldn't CVA2.
Many people don't like CVA, but for me it was the first Castlevania i've played and so it holds a special place in my heart, but CVA2, was something incredibly, when it has been released back then.