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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: cecil-kain on May 30, 2012, 12:30:58 PM
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First....
You CAN change your vote if you change your mind, so there's no need to hesitate.
This past week has been quite a roller coaster here at the CVD. It seems the Nintendo Power article provided enough juicy information to rev up the enthusiasm and help us make some real judgments. What are your intentions regarding Mirror of Fate for the 3DS?
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I'll be getting the collector's edition, if there is one.
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I want this game.
This game alone, will make make me buy a 3DS.
Fuck you Konami, but god damn I cant hate you.
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I was already contemplating getting a 3DS. Kid Icarus is one reason and it has backwards compatibility with DS. I'll get the game sooner or later.
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So far it is looking good and I will have to put it on my buy list.
But so far, the day 1 purchase option seems like a stretch to me, that is until I see more.
a nice gameplay vid would be nice and I also would like to hear more about this huge castle we will be exploring like whether there will be secret pathways and rare items and weapons to be found.
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Looks awesome, I don't know if I will own a 3DS for its release though
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I picked option two as I am quite hyped for this game. I will admit however that there are some things that could potentially turn me off to it. We really have not seen the game in action yet so I may end up changing my mind.
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As hyped as I am for MoF, im still slightly cautious until I see it in motion.
My (future) 3DS need's some Castlevania in it so im hoping it delivers.
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I'll certainely buy a 3DS for this, but also for other games like KH3D.
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Because of it, it means I'll eventually have to get a 3DS.
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Already have a 3DS for other games, but I'll probably get it once it comes out.
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I'm cautiously optimistic. MS has burned me once with their misleading marketing strategies, so I'm not going to slam my money down now. I will wait to see how things pan out first. I cannot say that this move to 2.5D doesn't interest me though.
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I agree. I was excited about LoS until I downloaded the demo and was supremely disappointed. If MGS: 3D was any indicator, then there should be a demo for MoF as well.
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I'm cautiously optimistic. MS has burned me once with their misleading marketing strategies, so I'm not going to slam my money down now. I will wait to see how things pan out first. I cannot say that this move to 2.5D doesn't interest me though.
Mostly agree here. While I did initially feel pretty burned by LoS it was one of those games that steadily grew on me.
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you know what ? i bought a 3DS cuz i know that in someday there is a new castlevania will show up on this little dude
so my imaginations has came true but i hope that the soundtracks will be something better than LOS because i can't imagine Simon walking without his theme ... just like a king !
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Where is the "Day 1 purchase...if I had a 3DS" option
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Where is the "Day 1 purchase...if I had a 3DS" option
Well if you're digging the game but don't have a 3DS, the real issue for you is if the game is worth purchasing the system. If you're thinking "Day 1 purchase" you're probably going to invest in the system, unless of course you can't afford it... But surely you'll have enough time to save up and make the commitment if that's what you really want.
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I originally bought my 3DS for Megaman Legends 3, since that was canceled, never considered Castlevania, only heard rumours before that IGA had the dev kit for it, now MS is making a CV so im willing to get it even preorder it asap
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I have a 3DS, but I'm still have a wait and see attitude. I'd need to see screenshots, and even then, the LoS mythos doesn't terribly interest me.
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Im willing to get it, just cause of collected every Castlevania to date, and I need more 3DS games as is, lol
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I bought my 3DS for Paper Mario, and with Mirror of Fate on the way that purchase is that much more delicious.
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I picked the i will never buy Los games option.
You can -1 me all you want :)
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you know what ? i bought a 3DS cuz i know that in someday there is a new castlevania will show up on this little dude
so my imaginations has came true but i hope that the soundtracks will be something better than LOS because i can't imagine Simon walking without his theme ... just like a king !
Seriously! Simon w/o his theme would be a travesty, and make me supremely pissed.
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that was my biggest greif with LoS, Lack of familar tunes from the series, the music box was meh, and there was references to the song titles in the story segments, but no music
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I picked the cautiously optimistic option, because while I'm really excited about MoF, I still want to see trailers before I decide if I'm going to buy it or not. Luckily, I have a 3DS though. I bought a 3DS a while back because I knew I would need it for Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance when it comes out.
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I wasn't the biggest fan of LoS, but I love 2D Castlevania, so count me among the cautiously optimistic. After reading a bit more information on the game, I think it has a ton of potential, but I've been disappointed before. I need to see some gameplay trailers before I make up my mind.
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Count me in for a special edition. I loved lords of shadow and my 3ds catalog is always in need of improvement.
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i'd buy it the day it came out. but since i'd do that for any Castlevania game on any system, it doesn't reflect my opinion of the game. but yeah, looking forward to it.
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I don't have a 3DS for one. However, I'll get one for Fire Emblem and possibly this game. I still need more convincing for this but from what I've read it seems like a step in the right direction.
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Already own a 3DS and waiting on Paper Mario, Fire Emblem Kakusei, and Kingdom Hearts 3D.
I'm cautiously optimistic for this game, didn't really like LoS but this game seems to be making improvements. I'll have to keep an eye on it before I make a decision.
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Cautiously optimistic. It looks great so far, but it's too early. Maybe I'll have a better idea on Friday.
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Cautiously optimistic. It has serious potential to be something truly great.
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A good reason for clean from the dust my 3DS.
Anyway Day 1 for me and i'll expect a collectors edition.
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There should be some kind of anniversary bundle for this game. I know the real anniversary was last year, but the american 25th anniversary is this year. Sooo, a special designed 3DS with maybe some gorgeous castle artwork on it, and the game, in a bundle for a nice price. I'd be all over that.
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Day 1 for me, if they release a CE, I will get it too!. I already have a 3DS, so I'm ready.
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It's all about that special collection ;D
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I knew I would need it for Kingdom Hearts Dream Drop Distance when it comes out.
+1 for kingdom hearts 3D one month left =O
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Pre-ordering this whenever available, and getting the deluxe/collector's/whatever if they have one. But that's no different than any other Castlevania game for me, to tell the truth.
Bring on the lemon wedges!
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This poll leaves out pretty much any nuanced negative vote options, like "I can see I'll have real problems with the game from the description of it in the article, so I probably won't get it without more info" or "Doesn't look Metroidvaniay enough for me." A bit surprising given who made it.
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Day 1 purchase for me. Well, maybe day 2 or 3 depending on when I get paid ;D
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This poll leaves out pretty much any nuanced negative vote options, like "I can see I'll have real problems with the game from the description of it in the article, so I probably won't get it without more info" or "Doesn't look Metroidvaniay enough for me." A bit surprising given who made it.
I dunno, "I will never buy any LoS games --even in 2D..." seems pretty negative
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This is a record! None of my polls have had so many votes in a 24 hour period!
This poll leaves out pretty much any nuanced negative vote options, like "I can see I'll have real problems with the game from the description of it in the article, so I probably won't get it without more info" or "Doesn't look Metroidvaniay enough for me." A bit surprising given who made it.
Criticism becomes more nuanced once a game is actually played --or at the very least, seen in action. This poll is more about gauging the forum's enthusiasm based on the first impressions. Mirror of Fate is an opportunity to answer fan complaints, and it looks like there may be a legitimate effort to acknowledge and reconnect. Looking at these numbers, the first impression appears to be very positive. Moreover, we can see that those who don't already own the 3DS are committing to invest by 11 to 3 --that's over 78%!
Although, more than 48% have said "Day 1 purchase", there is a glut of apprehension as well. 30% describe themselves as "cautiously optimistic" or "once burned twice shy". And rather distantly, the committed non-buyers are coming in at 10%...
Just because I've seen this forum's opinions change rather quickly in the past, I've given everyone the option to change their vote if something upsetting causes any kind of a backlash. And if needed I can always add additional options at that time. As of right now however, the negatives don't need any detailed explanation.
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"I will never buy any LoS games --even in 2D..." >:(
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"I will never buy any LoS games --even in 2D..." >:(
I will buy any LoS games--even in 2D... ;)
Hell I just want some cv action
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LoS games, IGA games, classicvanias.... I buy them all. This will be no exception.
The only Castlevania I was never interested in was Harmony of Despair. So I didn't get it and probably never will.
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I dunno, "I will never buy any LoS games --even in 2D..." seems pretty negative
I said "nuanced" negative, not "straight out black and white" negative.
Criticism becomes more nuanced once a game is actually played --or at the very least, seen in action. This poll is more about gauging the forum's enthusiasm based on the first impressions.
Given only the level of info presented in the article, my opinion is still a lot more nuanced than any of your options allow.
As of right now however, the negatives don't need any detailed explanation.
They do if you actually want people to be able to vote for those options because they fit their opinion closely enough :-X
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Given only the level of info presented in the article, my opinion is still a lot more nuanced than any of your options allow.
They do if you actually want people to be able to vote for those options because they fit their opinion closely enough :-X
Considering the audience and the tone of the forum, it made sense to measure the outpouring of enthusiasm and support. To some degree, I think we fans see what we want to see --like an ink blot. A long time ago, I created a poll (much like this one) to measure pre-launch enthusiasm for LoS. Then, about a month or 2 after the launch I created a follow-up poll to measure the post-gameplay criticism.
This poll could easily be simplified to say... ---"Will you buy the game?" 1. Yes 2. No--- But the goal here was to pick out some correlations and basic shades of grey. Right now the negative feedback is too small to get into all of the nitty-gritty criticisms. I'm not saying they don't exist, it's just not the best time to measure that sort of thing in a meaningful way.
If you're really feeling short-changed by the options, you can always go the "Dark Priest" route. Just out of curiousity, what option would you like to see me to add exactly?
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Considering the audience and the tone of the forum, it made sense to measure the outpouring of enthusiasm and support.
Is there any meaning to measuring the level of support without including the options for the other side of the coin in the same detail? Unless everyone fits under at least one option in the poll's responses, you may get inaccurate data. That's why you see a lot of polls that are in a format with their options vaguely resembling "Yes, Probably so, Maybe, Probably not, No, Don't know" to cover the full gamut.
A long time ago, I created a poll (much like this one) to measure pre-launch enthusiasm for LoS. Then, about a month or 2 after the launch I created a follow-up poll to measure the post-gameplay criticism.
Not sure I quite get your implication. Are you saying the poll is following an inescapable cycle that goes with game releases where the hype train rolls out and the majority of the game's potential audience is anxious and eager for the game and afterwards they receive a let down and criticize the game's flaws? If so, I don't really like that type of paradigm. Maybe it's because I don't buy a lot of games so I don't feel like I can buy first and ask questions later, but I prefer something more like looking at what non-hype info they give you before release and forming an impression about whether I'll like the game or not that is hopefully accurate--rather than mostly support before release, criticism after.
Right now the negative feedback is too small to get into all of the nitty-gritty criticisms. I'm not saying they don't exist, it's just not the best time to measure that sort of thing in a meaningful way.
I wouldn't necessarily expect that much nitty gritty, just a bit more options between the extreme negative and the really specific slightly negative ("interesting but not worth a 3DS buy"). Technically that probably isn't even negative, as it applies to almost every 3DS game for everyone, since most games aren't system sellers by themselves.
If you're really feeling short-changed by the options, you can always go the "Dark Priest" route.
"I don't know" wouldn't really accurately reflect my sentiment.
Just out of curiousity, what option would you like to see me to add exactly?
That was covered in my first post with "I can see I'll have real problems with the game from the description of it in the article, so I probably won't get it without more info." Heck even a "Probably won't get given current info" option would've sufficed and would probably be less specific.
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Is there any meaning to measuring the level of support without including the options for the other side of the coin in the same detail? Unless everyone fits under at least one option in the poll's responses, you may get inaccurate data. That's why you see a lot of polls that are in a format with their options vaguely resembling "Yes, Probably so, Maybe, Probably not, No, Don't know" to cover the full gamut.
In this particular case, the "whys" are only vaguely covered. Right now over 46% are committing to the "Day 1 purchase" options, and neither of those two options give those a fans to chance to explain why they're in love with the game. The only real distinction between the two is how many are going the extra mile to invest in the 3DS system.
The "whys" that are explored by the poll deal with the statistical glut of Castlevania fans that are struggling with change and expectations, but again --nothing too specific. This is where you can see a distinction between fans that are leaning toward support --and those that are leaning against support. Again, special consideration was also given based on the cost of 3DS influencing their decision.
And finally we have the Castlevania fans that are not willing to forgive LoS --for whatever reason. Much like the "Day 1 purchases" are not asked to explain their motives --neither is the other side of the coin as you put it.
Not sure I quite get your implication. Are you saying the poll is following an inescapable cycle that goes with game releases where the hype train rolls out and the majority of the game's potential audience is anxious and eager for the game and afterwards they receive a let down and criticize the game's flaws? If so, I don't really like that type of paradigm. Maybe it's because I don't buy a lot of games so I don't feel like I can buy first and ask questions later, but I prefer something more like looking at what non-hype info they give you before release and forming an impression about whether I'll like the game or not that is hopefully accurate--rather than mostly support before release, criticism after.
There is a paradigm of the Hype/Disappointment cycle when you examine the before and after polling. It's happened in the past, and it's likely to happen in the future. Unfortunately, even those that make an honest effort to approach new games objectively, will end up buying products that sometimes exceed or fail to meet their expectations. This can happen even with the advantage of sampling the game before they buy it.
I wouldn't necessarily expect that much nitty gritty, just a bit more options between the extreme negative and the really specific slightly negative ("interesting but not worth a 3DS buy"). Technically that probably isn't even negative, as it applies to almost every 3DS game for everyone, since most games aren't system sellers by themselves.
This gets back to the "whys" I mentioned earlier... But let me see if I understand, the nuance of your position. Is this a case, where you have no intention of buying the game, but "I will never buy any LoS games --even in 2D..." is too extreme for your opinion? If so, I can easily fix that by toning down that particular option, and the same relevant data is collected.
"I don't know" wouldn't really accurately reflect my sentiment.
Fair enough.
That was covered in my first post with "I can see I'll have real problems with the game from the description of it in the article, so I probably won't get it without more info." Heck even a "Probably won't get given current info" option would've sufficed and would probably be less specific.
Hmmm... If these are your true feelings, I would categorize you as leaning against supporting the game --as represented by the "once burned twice shy" option...
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In this particular case, the "whys" are only vaguely covered. Right now over 46% are committing to the "Day 1 purchase" options, and neither of those two options give those a fans to chance to explain why they're in love with the game. The only real distinction between the two is how many are going the extra mile to invest in the 3DS system.
The "whys" that are explored by the poll deal with the statistical glut of Castlevania fans that are struggling with change and expectations, but again --nothing too specific. This is where you can see a distinction between fans that are leaning toward support --and those that are leaning against support. Again, special consideration was also given based on the cost of 3DS influencing their decision.
Your leaning towards support options are fine and not too specific, it's the negative ones that are either too extreme or too specific. I don't really find "whys" being entirely necessary in a poll like this if one doesn't care about finding them out at this point. What I am saying though, is that for those leaning against support, your options are either a little too extreme (NO LOS EVEN IN 2D!) or too specific (looks interesting, not worth buying a 3DS) to represent every possibility.
And finally we have the Castlevania fans that are not willing to forgive LoS --for whatever reason. Much like the "Day 1 purchases" are not asked to explain their motives --neither is the other side of the coin as you put it.
I'm not necessary saying you -have- to represent the motives if you don't want to, just including somewhere in the poll the full gamut of "yes, prob yes, maybe, prob no, no," options. This is how one makes unbiased polls.
This gets back to the "whys" I mentioned earlier... But let me see if I understand, the nuance of your position. Is this a case, where you have no intention of buying the game, but "I will never buy any LoS games --even in 2D..." is too extreme for your opinion? If so, I can easily fix that by toning down that particular option, and the same relevant data is collected.
Fair enough.
That might work, depending on what you tone it down to. But I'm not ruling out getting it if later info shows it shaping up in a different way than the current info, whereas that option seems to be set in stone and seems like a total black and white option that has no level of analysis or possibility for changing of ones mind once the game is determined to be LoS-based.
Hmmm... If these are your true feelings, I would categorize you as leaning against supporting the game --as represented by the "once burned twice shy" option...
That I found too specific, as it says I was "burned" by LoS (I didn't buy it), and I take it as more of a maybe option with a reaction against LoS1 infused into it (making it a bit too specific) or a "waiting for cheaper price," since it says "maybe once it hits the bargain bin." It's really like what should be 3 options fused into one. "Maybe when it comes out." "Maybe once it gets cheaper." "I was burned by LoS so I'm extremely wary." Actually the last one isn't really even necessary if you don't want motives, since the earlier two still fit those people.
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This is a biased poll..a lot of choices connected to buying 3DS. Five options go for buying and two against.
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Your leaning towards support options are fine and not too specific, it's the negative ones that are either too extreme or too specific. I don't really find "whys" being entirely necessary in a poll like this if one doesn't care about finding them out at this point. What I am saying though, is that for those leaning against support, your options are either a little too extreme (NO LOS EVEN IN 2D!) or too specific (looks interesting, not worth buying a 3DS) to represent every possibility.
That's a fair analysis. I just tweaked the language in those two options to take the edge off. :-)
I'm not necessary saying you -have- to represent the motives if you don't want to, just including somewhere in the poll the full gamut of "yes, prob yes, maybe, prob no, no," options. This is how one makes unbiased polls.
Bias is human nature --even if its unconscious. It may have been prudent to add more options toward the negative, but the responses here are showing a heavy slant toward the positive --and that's to be expected of a fan forum. Under normal circumstances, a poll like this should be showing a smooth J curve of positive enthusiasm, but the results are showing this glut of apprehension. I created more "middle road" options to help explore this group in more detail because I expected these votes to heavily out-whiegh the negatives --and the results are bearing that out at this point.
That might work, depending on what you tone it down to. But I'm not ruling out getting it if later info shows it shaping up in a different way than the current info, whereas that option seems to be set in stone and seems like a total black and white option that has no level of analysis or possibility for changing of ones mind once the game is determined to be LoS-based.
You're forgetting about the option to change your vote. ;-)
That I found too specific, as it says I was "burned" by LoS (I didn't buy it), and I take it as more of a maybe option with a reaction against LoS1 infused into it (making it a bit too specific) or a "waiting for cheaper price," since it says "maybe once it hits the bargain bin." It's really like what should be 3 options fused into one. "Maybe when it comes out." "Maybe once it gets cheaper." "I was burned by LoS so I'm extremely wary." Actually the last one isn't really even necessary if you don't want motives, since the earlier two still fit those people.
One the surface, this looks like buyer's remorse, but I think it's possible for some hardcore fans to feel "burned" by LoS without ever having purchased the game. Maybe it was borrowed. Maybe it was a rental. Or maybe the new approach was so offensive they completely avoided it. Regardless of that, Mirror of Fate may still be showing some potential... Yes, this group could easily be divided further, but with only about 6% of the total vote, it's hardly worth deeper analysis at this particular time.
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This is a biased poll..a lot of choices connected to buying 3DS. Five options go for buying and two against.
Actually 5 options presume a 3DS is already owned --with 1 option to buy and 1 option not to buy.
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I'm going to get it -- par for the course in case of any new installment in this series -- but I'm expecting not to like it.
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are you even capable of loving anything, grouchy forum terrorist
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I... love you.
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Bias is human nature --even if its unconscious. It may have been prudent to add more options toward the negative, but the responses here are showing a heavy slant toward the positive --and that's to be expected of a fan forum. Under normal circumstances, a poll like this should be showing a smooth J curve of positive enthusiasm, but the results are showing this glut of apprehension. I created more "middle road" options to help explore this group in more detail because I expected these votes to heavily out-whiegh the negatives --and the results are bearing that out at this point.
If you had created the full breadth of those negative options and they don't get used, then you're sure in your results--no harm done, so no real reason not to do it. It's hard to tell if you captured everyone who visited this thread in those options if some found that there was no option that entirely fit their position. That's one of the issues why one tries to make a breadth of options that will allow at least one to fit, no matter how vaguely. One of my issues with the options is that if you construct the poll expecting a certain outcome in mind, then create the full breadth of options for those outcomes and yet leave a less full breadth of options to cover the negative end of the spectrum, you can't really tell that you captured accurate results. If someone pops in, looks at the options, and none really fit his/her position and he/she decides not to post or vote for the "closest" option to him/her, you lose a potential data point. Even if the options change, that person may never return to the thread.
You're forgetting about the option to change your vote. ;-)
I didn't forget that option--it's just that I wouldn't be able to vote for the "No LoS even in 2D" option given the way it's stated now in the first place. It's not really possible for me to vote for that one since it seems to indicate that just the game being set in the LoS universe totally precludes purchase. There are people who feel that way but I am not one of them.
Regardless of that, Mirror of Fate may still be showing some potential... Yes, this group could easily be divided further, but with only about 6% of the total vote, it's hardly worth deeper analysis at this particular time.
What I'm saying is not that the people who already voted for that option need to be further subdivided. What I'm saying is that everyone who could've voted for some options apart may not have voted for them together, because a specific part of it may have fit them (Maybe once it gets to the bargain bin) but another part may not (Once burned, twice shy), resulting in 6%, down from a "real" combined 9% or something if both options were separate originally and everyone who could've voted did (sorry if this is a bit confusing, but it's hard to describe it without taking tons of space to do so).
Take an example since that may be more clear. Maybe you have people who weren't that impressed or interested by the game from the article so felt they'd likely to wait for the game to get cheaper if they were going to get it at all but liked LoS itself. They can't vote for "Once burned twice shy, maybe when it hits the bargain bin" since part of that implies they were burned by LoS when they liked it. They couldn't vote for the old "It's interesting, but not worth buying a 3DS for," since they don't identify with it looking that interesting. They certainly can't vote for "No LoS even in 2D." Maybe they could vote for the new "Not worth buying a 3DS for" option since that seems to be the largest catch-all negative option, depending on whether they think that implies they'd have to buy a 3DS to get the game (i.e. that they don't already have one) or whether they just interpret it as "this game doesn't look great--not a system seller."
Since that person didn't see an option that fit him or her, he or she may have just left and not voted, so what might've been an extra vote for an option is now no vote at all. The generic "not worth buying a 3DS for" may cover that now but it's probably a bit too late.
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Man, and I thought this was a simple poll about people's intentions to buy Mirror of Fate.
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^^
Seriously.
And Charlotte, thanks for responding, but you don't seriously except me to read all that do you? Good Lord :o
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Not necessarily, the only person I expect to read it is cecil-kain.
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If you had created the full breadth of those negative options and they don't get used, then you're sure in your results--no harm done, so no real reason not to do it. It's hard to tell if you captured everyone who visited this thread in those options if some found that there was no option that entirely fit their position. That's one of the issues why one tries to make a breadth of options that will allow at least one to fit, no matter how vaguely. One of my issues with the options is that if you construct the poll expecting a certain outcome in mind, then create the full breadth of options for those outcomes and yet leave a less full breadth of options to cover the negative end of the spectrum, you can't really tell that you captured accurate results. If someone pops in, looks at the options, and none really fit his/her position and he/she decides not to post or vote for the "closest" option to him/her, you lose a potential data point. Even if the options change, that person may never return to the thread.
One more option toward the negative wouldn't have hurt anything --I'll conceded that. The options were put in a particular order to try and create the natural J curve, but if we examine the results, the major glut is not at the lower negative end, but the middle ground. Like I mentioned earlier, I was expecting something like that to occur, I just wasn't entirely certain how that glut would play out. In this case, we're talking about the "cautiously optimistic" at about 22% of the vote. I felt I had offered every opinion an adequate home, but I can see why you feel differently. Unfortunately, the forum doesn't provide any tools to measure participation, so that will remain mystery. But in all the years I've been polling this forum, I've never seen such a robust response. This topic surpassed 50 votes in the first 24 hours --normally that level of feedback would take about a week. Guess I just put the poll up at an ideal time. ;D
I didn't forget that option--it's just that I wouldn't be able to vote for the "No LoS even in 2D" option given the way it's stated now in the first place. It's not really possible for me to vote for that one since it seems to indicate that just the game being set in the LoS universe totally precludes purchase. There are people who feel that way but I am not one of them.
Kinda like presidential politics. There's no such thing as a "perfect" candidate --just the "best fit" or perhaps "the lesser of 2 evils"
What I'm saying is not that the people who already voted for that option need to be further subdivided. What I'm saying is that everyone who could've voted for some options apart may not have voted for them together, because a specific part of it may have fit them (Maybe once it gets to the bargain bin) but another part may not (Once burned, twice shy), resulting in 6%, down from a "real" combined 9% or something if both options were separate originally and everyone who could've voted did (sorry if this is a bit confusing, but it's hard to describe it without taking tons of space to do so).
Take an example since that may be more clear. Maybe you have people who weren't that impressed or interested by the game from the article so felt they'd likely to wait for the game to get cheaper if they were going to get it at all but liked LoS itself. They can't vote for "Once burned twice shy, maybe when it hits the bargain bin" since part of that implies they were burned by LoS when they liked it. They couldn't vote for the old "It's interesting, but not worth buying a 3DS for," since they don't identify with it looking that interesting. They certainly can't vote for "No LoS even in 2D." Maybe they could vote for the new "Not worth buying a 3DS for" option since that seems to be the largest catch-all negative option, depending on whether they think that implies they'd have to buy a 3DS to get the game (i.e. that they don't already have one) or whether they just interpret it as "this game doesn't look great--not a system seller."
Since that person didn't see an option that fit him or her, he or she may have just left and not voted, so what might've been an extra vote for an option is now no vote at all. The generic "not worth buying a 3DS for" may cover that now but it's probably a bit too late.
It seems highly unlikely that any LoS fan would find Mirror of Fate boring or unattractive, but you are correct to highlight that particular blind spot... How embarrassing. :-[ *sigh* Hindsight is 20/20.
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This looks leaps and bounds better than the first Lords, but again, I was stoked for that in the beginning too. I think the usage of canon Belmonts makes it a little more exciting, but this also raises the expectations a lot higher. I didn't really want to give this a chance, but after reading about it a bit more I could be compelled to. I'll wait until more info is revealed.
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Buying it day one. I've already got a 3DS becuase of Mario, and this year is looking lucrative for the system. Kingdom Hearts, Epic Mickey, and possibly Castlevania (not sure of the release date). That, and I'm still going through Cave Story. Great system.
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This topic surpassed 50 votes in the first 24 hours --normally that level of feedback would take about a week. Guess I just put the poll up at an ideal time. ;D
It's probably at least partly due to the timing of putting it up just as a huge glut of info on the game comes out. Probably a lot of people who don't consistently visit popped in for the first time in a couple months to see what info or discussion the dungeon's message board had on it and saw the poll.
It seems highly unlikely that any LoS fan would find Mirror of Fate boring or unattractive, but you are correct to highlight that particular blind spot... How embarrassing. :-[ *sigh* Hindsight is 20/20.
Well keep in mind a LoS fan (especially those who just joined/came back for LoS or who describe themselves as "sick of Metroidvania") might not be interested in the 2.5D gameplay style. Maybe that wouldn't be prevalent here of all places since a great deal of people here go back a long ways into CV history with the games they've played (although I assume new members are always popping in if LoS attracted them). But I've actually seen it on some other boards that aren't specifically dedicated to CV, where some people who liked LoS mention they're let down by MoF since they assumed it'd be a handheld 3D action game or wanted it to be.
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i went with the closest one that fits, but... if this turns out the way it is in my mind i am actually considering multiple copies. Due to the fact that with the ds games and the gba games and how much i have borrowed them out id rather have multiples just so i dont have to part with mine. After all i have spent hundreds of hours in the installments of the series since i got into it.
so put if you change the poll add a choice of " went into a cv coma, wallet eternally hates me for it." hahaha.
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Wow --up to 80 votes in just a few days! :D
With the huge deluge of information and video coming out of E3 these past 48 hours, it seems the sentiment toward MoF has shifted a bit. The door is still wide open to anyone that would like to change their vote.
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I will buy it and have already started to price out 3DS systems. Target has a special this week I am thinking of getting.
But yes this will be a day 1 purchase for me just like all other Castlevania games.
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It's not worth buying a 3DS over. If I had a 3DS and the disposable income needed to buy the game, I would. Besides, even if I did have the money to get it, I'd wait a while. I like to watch playthroughs on youtube before buying a game. This way I know what i'm getting myself ahead of time and prevent myself from buying a bad game. Simply put, I don't trust reviews given by game companies. I see for myself by watching videos made by a independent third party. The best example of this is darksydephil. He's independent, impartial, and entertaining.
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It's not worth buying a 3DS over. If I had a 3DS and the disposable income needed to buy the game, I would. Besides, even if I did have the money to get it, I'd wait a while. I like to watch playthroughs on youtube before buying a game. This way I know what i'm getting myself ahead of time and prevent myself from buying a bad game. Simply put, I don't trust reviews given by game companies. I see for myself by watching videos made by a independent third party. The best example of this is darksydephil. He's independent, impartial, and entertaining.
I agree, however, time will tell if Mirror of Fate will be a system mover. I, on the other hand already own a 3DS and will be picking up MoF day 1.
And I completely agree with you on your stance of reviews done by gaming journalists. There's already high evidence that game companies could easily pay off reviewers to have the scores go to their game's favor. Case in point: Mass Effect 3. So take those reviews with a grain of salt.