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Title: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Cypress on January 10, 2008, 01:48:16 AM
*random*
How many do you think you could take before you turned into a bag of money? (How meni HPs u gots?!)

I suppose I would take one if it were a headshot. 5 or so if it was a body shot. (It would also depend on the Belmont I suppose.)

Basically I was thinking about how skeletons die with 1 hit and wondering how real humans would compare to them.
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Slayer on January 10, 2008, 03:29:10 AM
I'd probably take as many hits as the gardener...
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: uzo on January 10, 2008, 09:31:29 AM
Ah screw that. Real whips hurt like a mother****er. Id run like a bitch if someone came after me with one.
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Profbeanburrito on January 10, 2008, 06:00:57 PM
I thought that this was some kind of a cheesy joke you made up. Like a "why did the chicken cross the road?" sort of thing
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Aridale on January 10, 2008, 06:27:54 PM
In Reply To #3

I agree completely a nice crack from a real whip is enough for just about anyone.

On a side note this is something Ive always felt strongly about but very rarely get the chance to talk about outside of the occasional friend in RL.

Why are skellys always one of if not THE weakest undead creature? It doesnt make since at all. And I dont mean just games I mean even in movies if they have skellys at all theyre always lower forms of undead. Ive always thought it should be the exact opposite. The only way a skelly would be possible at all would be some very powerful magic/necromancy on the bones themselves to make them animate and make the skelly even possible. They have no muscle no flesh nothin. The weakest part of them is the bones themselves but would probably be rock hard because of the magic animating them.

All this would make them infinitely harder to kill than say zombies and other reanimated corpses that are more hindered by the weight of the dead skin and organs than helped by it (its dead so its no longer working thus the slow movements and odd postures)

Id say skellys would be an undead to be feared right up there with wights and shades etc. I mean what good could you do with normal means against a skelly? If you scatter it the magic would just pull the bones back together (like the red skellies) and on itd come. Itd probably be almost impossible to break the bones because of the enchantments on em to make it work at all in the first place. So like the incorporeal creatures that only magic can hurt how would you fight em?

Anyway just somethin Ive thought about for years and always noticed was always the opposite in every movie/game/story/book/etc that Ive ever seen. Even in DND skellys are the lowest form of undead. 
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: CVfan13 on January 10, 2008, 07:09:22 PM
Well, whips hurt, but come one, one hit kills you? No. Look at peole  like slaves. Theyve been whiped a lot but it never killed after just a few hits. I think on a real person it would take a lot of whipping on one central spot, like the heart to kill them, but with the morning star, theyd be dead within a few hits... anywhere.
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: uzo on January 10, 2008, 08:18:45 PM
Haha. One hit cant kill you. It'll hurt like a bitch, but it wont kill you. Depending on the type of whip, you can get deep lacerations though.
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Mr Sven on January 10, 2008, 08:32:11 PM
I just went googling for images to see the extent of whip lacerations and i assure you if you do the same that it's NSFW - and the real non sex whip wounds are pretty hard to come accross too!
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Cypress on January 10, 2008, 10:30:27 PM
Haha, I meant a whip like Richter's. Holy powers and what have you. I know that a regular whip wouldn't be able to take me down like that even though it would hurt.


Yea, skeletons do seem to be weak in everything. Weren't they kind of tough in Jason and the Argonauts?
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Mr Sven on January 10, 2008, 10:40:24 PM
Richters Chain whip is pretty much a star flail with a long chain.

I would be dead in the first shot to the head even without holy elements.

now in the kneecaps i could take as many hits as he could dish out cause i couldnt run away
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Cypress on January 10, 2008, 10:50:54 PM
In Reply To #10
After a hit with that you no longer have kneecaps heheh.

They should add enemies that can have defensive moves. (like giving the spear knights the ability to block the whip with the spear and then grab the chain to pull the character towards them.)
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Profbeanburrito on January 10, 2008, 11:28:16 PM
I'm surprised the Belmont's never whip them selves. Imagine if
Richter wasn't paying attention and he whipped a monster, it ricocheted back  and hit him in the face....that would suck!

Also, speaking of whips, does anyone else have the Vampire Killer whip from konami.com? It's pretty cheesy I know, but I like it and it's good for the collection
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Mr Sven on January 11, 2008, 12:29:45 AM
I don't, but i was planning to get one of these - http://www.whipstore.com/bullwhips.htm

It might be a little while yet as i still have a sword and axe to come in the post and funds for these kinda toys is few and far between.

but promise pics if I do get one.
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Aridale on January 11, 2008, 06:06:14 AM
#everyone

I didnt mean to imply in my post that I thought one hit would kill ya but that one hit is all youd want =D

And yeah anything other than a leather whip would most probably be nighty night.

Also real whips of good quality are hard to find and are really expensive. I used to have a real bullwhip when I was younger hand made by native americans. Man it was awesome so yes trust me when I say one hit is all you want =D I hit mself many many times.

Anyway yes short of platting one yourself a good real whip you can depend on is hard to find for less than probably 400-500 bucks. I need to go to a bullriding convention and trade show next time they have one around here and see if I can any good ones on the cheap.
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: DoctaMario on January 11, 2008, 11:17:55 PM
ONe hit=deep gash=wound gets infected=Game Over.
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Cypress on January 12, 2008, 12:01:01 AM
In Reply To #15

Yea, there would be a ton of virus' on that whip after all its gone through.
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Mr Sven on January 13, 2008, 04:54:41 AM

Yea, skeletons do seem to be weak in everything. Weren't they kind of tough in Jason and the Argonauts?

I always found the skeletons in Golden axe to be a pain in the arse.
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Cypress on January 13, 2008, 10:34:16 AM
In Reply To #17

Gaaah. Yea, especially during that final boss fight. I can't remember, they were either invincible and they didn't tell you, or they took even more hits than the boss to kill them.
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: DoctaMario on January 14, 2008, 01:31:37 AM
In Reply To #17

They were a pain in Sword Of Sodan too. Course, every enemy was a pain in that game.  :P
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Kale on January 14, 2008, 12:55:05 PM
Can a whip cut your thraot open in one shot and kill you like a knife can? And I'd be out in one shot unless the Belmont is sadist and continue to whip me to make me cry in agony, if I'm not dead atleast. >.>
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: uzo on January 14, 2008, 02:42:53 PM
I don't, but i was planning to get one of these - http://www.whipstore.com/bullwhips.htm

It might be a little while yet as i still have a sword and axe to come in the post and funds for these kinda toys is few and far between.

but promise pics if I do get one.

Id like to recommend to you, get an 8ft whip. Its a little heavy and long for a first timer, but I'm sure you'll get use to it quick if you've used other weapons. I love my 8ft whip. It makes cracks like shotguns.

Also don't go cheap. Cheap lands you with whips that don't last. Around $100 is fairly good for a first time whip. Get normal leather to start. Id wait until you get better with it to get something more expensive. And as far as materials will go; roo hide whip is just about the best you'll get.

The first whip I ever got was a 6ft normal leather, for 60$. I beat that thing to bloody hell. It came apart real quick and I had to repair it myself a lot. Shes about 3.5 feet long now :P My 8ft is still 8ft. It hasn't come apart yet either. Better made. Was a little over 100$. When this one craps out, I'll go all out and get the best one I can find.
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Mr Sven on January 14, 2008, 04:10:35 PM
Honestly i'd much rather go with the theory that bigger is better and go for the full 12 ft whips.

Then again i've got to take into consideration that you need at least twice and a bit times the length of your whip to swing it properly and my garden just doesnt have the space... there's a large field just outside but i dont know how people would feel about me crackign something like that just outside...

i'd also feel a twat if someone saw me smack myself with it which would be likely for a little while learning to use it.
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: uzo on January 14, 2008, 04:57:12 PM
8ft for me is pretty much perfect. The longer they are also increases the weight. making them slower, and harder to handle. Sometimes bigger isn't always better. :P I do recommend if you want to move up, handle the smaller first though. And yes, you will hit yourself a little when you're using it at first.
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Kale on January 14, 2008, 04:59:40 PM
Bigger is better, but if you can't handle it, whats the point? >.>
Title: Re: How many whip hits before you die?
Post by: Genya Arikado on January 19, 2008, 01:55:35 AM
It should be mentioned that the Vampire Killer works on creatues of the night differntly than nomal people. In the cut scene of Curse of Darkness were Trevor fights Issac, the whip hits the ground and breaks the stone as if it were a bomb. That being said, if you were and evil human than I would say 3 max. If you were a normal human than the Vampire Killer would only act as a normal whip against you.