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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #75 on: August 04, 2013, 10:38:59 AM »
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I dunno about SotN marking his shift to pure monster. I mean, he was straight-up monster-mashin' in all of Simon Belmont's adventures against him. I just think he was more personal in SotN because he was up against his son one-on-one. Makes me wonder how the conversation would go in a remake of CV3, and I don't mean no pachislot title either.

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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #76 on: August 04, 2013, 10:40:29 AM »
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Not to pure monster, but a monster without self.


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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #77 on: August 04, 2013, 07:56:48 PM »
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Yes, it seems as though after SotN he is just after destruction pure and simple. He just doesn't care about anything anymore. It's as if he's had a psychotic break or something. He has literally gone from revenge to just because I can. Although he seems calm on the surface, he is likely nothing more than someone who craves destruction almost like Kefka from FF6 (just not outwardly insane). All this after SotN. Beforehand, he would just await in his throne room for the "hero" and simply fight to the death, or he would use some insidious plot like with Christopher's son or what he did in RoB/DXC. We never see that after SotN. Not only that, but he seems to take pleasure in dealing with intruders as well. In PoR, he just writes off Jonathan and Charlotte and in OoE, when Shanoa says that she will kill him, he says that he hasn't danced in ages. He was never that arrogant before SotN.

It just seems like after he heard what Lisa's last words were, anything left of humanity and attachments disappeared leaving only that thirst for destruction. Makes me wonder how he would react to Alucard in the 1999 event (something we will probably never know).
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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #78 on: August 04, 2013, 08:05:03 PM »
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Hey, thanks for you guys considering my theory, expanding and adding/mixing it instead of making fun of it. IIRC in HoD acts strangely too, maybe it is somehow connected with his powers too? Like "more memories = more anger and agony = more power"?
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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #79 on: August 04, 2013, 11:01:40 PM »
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SotN's ending may have been the end of the remnants of Mathias Cronqvist's personality. There was a big ball of light and beams that pointed upwards. I know they probably didn't mean anything particular with that, but I thought that was interesting. All the other times he explodes into a meaty mess or burts into flames after transforming into something hideous.  He hears Lisa's words - the ones that basically eat away his motivation (you know, Al could have told him about that sooner, don't you think? Could it be our stalwart dhampire do-gooder actually thought humans deserved to die?), says farewell to Al and makes a kind of peace between them. Then he disappears into the light. About the happiest ending he could hope for.

But he cursed himself willingly centuries ago and chaos or whatever doesn't just let him go.  There was a price to pay for all that power. So from that point, he's basically just a shell that remembers only hate. I mean, there are powers above him, obviously. The kind of powers Death is suggested of truly serving instead of him. Only Julius finally freed him from that.

Perhaps that heavenly beam took with it the total remainder of his humanity, similar to the Lords of Shadow? His last remnants of goodness and love left his body to ascend to Lisa's company(or Elisabetha if they're two different entities, never quite clear on that), and all that's left is a semi-immortal shell of the centuries of festering hatred and anger, bringing about the drastic change in his behavior after SotN.


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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #80 on: August 04, 2013, 11:07:05 PM »
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Well, lets remember that this beam can also be only a common special effect for the castle destruction, since it happens even if you didnt reach the inverted castle endings and they've used the same effect in HoD. Anyway it sounds interesting and even if the beam is irrelevant I dont think that the rest is.
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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #81 on: August 05, 2013, 03:11:47 AM »
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What did Magnus say exactly? I've been meaning to listen to that radio drama, which, I assume, you're referring to.

If I recall correctly, Magnus told Maria that Allie is not the man she thinks he is, since Allie had done evil deeds in the past.

Makes me wonder how he would react to Alucard in the 1999 event (something we will probably never know).

Hmmm... we can speculate on how it might go but, in the end, we need that game!  ;)

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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #82 on: August 05, 2013, 05:44:30 PM »
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If I recall correctly, Magnus told Maria that Allie is not the man she thinks he is, since Allie had done evil deeds in the past.

Hmmm... we can speculate on how it might go but, in the end, we need that game!  ;)
It's possible that Alucard was evil at one point. After all, in SotN, when you first encounter Death, he alludes to that:

Death: Ah Alucard, what is your buisness here.
Alucard: I've come to put an end to this.
Death: Still befriending mortals? I will not ask you to return to our side, but I demand you cease your attack.
Alucard: I will not.
Death: You shall regret those words... We will meet again.

It really makes you wonder if Alucard sided with his father at one point against humans. Possibly right after Lisa's death. I could see an emotional Adrian (Alucard) going berserk after witnessing his loving mother's death at the hands of humans. I'm sure I would have if I was in his shoes. He probably left Dracula's side after calming down, but not after terrorizing some humans. That's also why he decided to fight against evil instead of just living a quiet life somewhere. He may be trying to atone for any evil he may have done.
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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #83 on: August 05, 2013, 06:11:33 PM »
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I have seen Alucard in full Turncoat mode before:

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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #84 on: August 05, 2013, 10:14:19 PM »
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I have seen Alucard in full Turncoat mode before:

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Re: Can Dracula leave the Castle?
« Reply #85 on: August 05, 2013, 10:29:29 PM »
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I have seen Alucard in full Turncoat mode before:

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