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Where is Dracula's ROOM?
« on: October 28, 2008, 06:48:42 PM »
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Ok, first off I am assuming that Dracula lived in Castlevania with Lisa and Adrian. Right, now I get to my question: where was his room?

As far as I know, the only thing approaching a bedroom we have seen in Castlevania is Olrox's Quarters. I would say Dracula and Lisa lived together, and I would say that Adrian was conceived in a bed. So, where was that bed? And after Adrian was born, where did he sleep? Ok, maybe he slept in a coffin, but I'm sure Dracula and Lisa had a bed.

Sure, there's the throne room. But Dracula, as prince and master, is bound to have private chambers somewhere.

And another thing (yes, Lieutenant Columbo, what is it?) - Castlevania would have been a strange place to grow up in. Either Dracula's undead army would have been milling about all the time, or the castle would be empty (Lisa still alive = no war with humanity = no army). A huge castle like that, home to THREE PEOPLE.

(And I refer to Alucard as Adrian because he hadn't changed his name yet. It was just one big happy Tepes family.)
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Re: Where is Dracula's ROOM?
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2008, 06:53:08 PM »
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I think you're looking too far into this.

Regardless though, the Castle's structure isn't canonically static. Remember when Alucard mentioned how it is "a creature of chaos?"

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Re: Where is Dracula's ROOM?
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2008, 07:22:08 PM »
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In the Curse of Darkness manga, Dracula's castle has many residents and is bristling with activity.  Kinda like a campus or headquarters.   It was where those who opposed God gathered.  Isaac, Hector, two of Isaac's friends who were in trouble with the religious authorities, Dracula, Lisa, Alucard, an assortment of lesser demons like a succubus, several more humans doing research and the like were all in the castle.

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Re: Where is Dracula's ROOM?
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2008, 08:06:12 PM »
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Not just that. The fact of the matter is that when you play through CV, ESPECIALLY post SotN metroidvanias, you only tread where you have to in the castle itself. If you look at the background, there are many staircases and doors that lead elsewhere, but because they are part of the background, you have no means of entering them. That's I see it, anyways. The castle is MUCH more larger than that which you explore.

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Re: Where is Dracula's ROOM?
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2008, 11:24:14 PM »
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In the Curse of Darkness manga, Dracula's castle has many residents and is bristling with activity.
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Re: Where is Dracula's ROOM?
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2008, 11:31:22 PM »
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Also, in SotN, near the fountain in Orlox's Quarters, you see a bunch of buildings in the background.  Those are likely what would be the residential homes for the entities withing the castle that need rest.
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Re: Where is Dracula's ROOM?
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2008, 11:43:10 PM »
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The mistake is the assumption that they ever lived in Castlevania.

It's improbable.

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Re: Where is Dracula's ROOM?
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2008, 12:27:08 AM »
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That's true.  I bet Dracula didn't start building his army of darkness until Lisa died.  I mean, before that he just hated
God.  It's only after that that he wanted to destroy humanity.  Or at least that's my understanding.
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Re: Where is Dracula's ROOM?
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2008, 12:58:05 AM »
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Trevor and Hector both went to Dracula's castle before Dracula's war on humanity began (based on Hector's shock when Dracula began killing the humans), I'm assuming that means before Lisa died.  I'll have to wait until volume two of the CoD manga comes out.  The end of volume one had a flashback to when Hector first came to the castle.  I wonder if Lisa will make an appearance?

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Re: Where is Dracula's ROOM?
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2008, 01:38:55 AM »
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I agree with the posts about all the different areas/floors/rooms of the castle that we dont get to explore. Looking in the backgrounds is a great point...lots of paths & stairways lead to other places. Who knows what's in there. Also, yes, as Alucard said, the castle is a creature of chaos and may take many incarnations. That's why the castle is different each time it returns. Every time it re-appears, it has different rooms/floors, etc. and the whole layout is different.

Also, it's obviously not realistic as the castle is pretty much impossibly huge. If you consider the actual scale of things (assuming the playable characters are normal human size) then it would be by far the largest castle ever built and it's not even close. If a real castle were built exactly like our typical CV castle, it would take hours to get from the entrance hall up to the throne room! (That said, a replica of the castle is my dream house and when I win the lottery Im gonna have my own personal Castlevania built  ;D)
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Re: Where is Dracula's ROOM?
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2008, 03:29:31 AM »
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This is a most excellent point. There are areas of Dracula's Castle we will never get to see such as the bed chambers and the toilets. (Most likely because they are not quite as exciting as, say, the dungeon??)

At least we know where Dracula sleeps in CV1....

And speaking of castle rooms, when are we going to get to see the treasury again? (that is one of my favorite stages in SCV IV...)

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Re: Where is Dracula's ROOM?
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2008, 10:27:31 AM »
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They counted that area in the middle of the castle in Harmony of Dissonance as "Castle Treasury" (the part with the big crystals and bomb knights and stuff.

It wasn't a good treasury, in my opinion, but at least it was 'a' treasury.
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Re: Where is Dracula's ROOM?
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2008, 11:27:19 AM »
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Trevor and Hector both went to Dracula's castle before Dracula's war on humanity began (based on Hector's shock when Dracula began killing the humans), I'm assuming that means before Lisa died.
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Re: Where is Dracula's ROOM?
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2008, 11:31:01 AM »
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Pretty sure it was Dawn of Sorrow that had a 'bedroom' as kind of a joke room. It had a giant four-post bed and all the female monsters inside for Dracula's harem, which I makes sense. Then again, Dracula wasn't the lord of the castle at that point...and the chambers would have been a lot different when Lisa was around. I think it was in the Demon Guest Quarters.

Chances are Dracula was a lot less broodish when he married Lisa and only sealed his fate when she was executed as a witch and caused his rampage in Castlevania III. That doesn't mean he wasn't a bad guy at that point, as he already sold his soul.

The storyline still seems unclear as to how the historical Vlad III and the series' Dracula are related other than by name and location, depending on how deeply you take Bram Stoker's novel as series canon. My guess is he just usurped the throne at some point, but that Vlad III was still a sick bastard before that happened (even if he DID manage to keep the Turks from invading - he did it by impaling the hundreds, if not thousands of prisoners he took, which was something the Turks did too).

In any event, Dracula probably had at least some good left in him at that point (very doubtful if he was really Vlad III), or else Lisa wouldn't have decided to marry him (I think we can rule out seduction).

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Re: Where is Dracula's ROOM?
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2008, 12:38:03 PM »
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well we could add those details into our fan game as an easter egg :P, but mostly its memory contraints and time for konami to put those details in, i'm sure on of the castle's had it, before it fell down after drac's defeat.
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