Topic: Draculas choice of candles...

[MOSH42393]

Well ive come to the conclusion that dracula bought or made candles with weapons and hearts in them so he could say "hahaha Belmont their was energy and weapons in the candles all along!" during the final battle scene 

then the Belmont of that time would say "if only i knew of the candle weapons i would have destroyed you!"

then dracula would kill the unnamed belmont.

but since dracula didnt know that the belmonts were so badass that they dont just raid draculas castle and kill the monsters but they also break random shit too jusst to piss off dracula.

but anyway i wanted to know your thoughts on why the candles had hearts and weapons in them. 

[Genya Arikado]

Iga said that the candels contained the souls Dracula had captured and when you get the heart from them its the soul's last gift as a thanks.

[MOSH42393]

In Reply To #2

yea thats true but i was kind of hoping people would just try to come up with their own reasons for it.

[erimocard]

Gameplay only. IMO.

[DoctaMario]

In Reply To #2

I really like that explanation. It's beautiful in a way.

[Genya Arikado]

In Reply To #5


Yes, i suppose in a way it kinda is.

[CapComMDb]

Iga said that the candels contained the souls Dracula had captured and when you get the heart from them its the soul's last gift as a thanks.

For reference, when LoI came out, I seem to remember him saying that they were weapons left by previous vampire hunters (must have been a Play magazine interview). This new explanation was when DXC came out and is much better. He hasn't explained the meat in the walls yet, but he did say the REAL question was why Belmont eats it:

http://lifemetercomics.com/art/castlevania_bill.html

I personally want to know why Dracula has no furniture in his castle in LoI and CoD. It contributes to the long, boring, empty hallways. DMC was so much more interesting to look at (even if the camera was kind of annoying in places). Someone in the 3D team needs to study set design.

[Abnormal Freak]

In Reply To #4

The only sensible explanation.

It's a video game.

Although I'd love to see a total cheeseball, comical Castlevania short film. Big hulking Simon whipping candles for hearts and sub-weapons, making his whip extend by nabbing power-ups, running to Dracula's quarters as "Theme of Simon" plays triumphantly, as Simon shouts at Dracula, "You goddamned bathead!" and throws holy water in his face.

[MOSH42393]

In Reply To #9

YES! this is the response i wanted when i made this forum! thank you!

i kinda want dracula to say in his final seconds "where in hell did you get holy water?!?"

then Simon says "in the candles" and curb stomps dracula's head while he has that what just happened look on his face.

[cecil-kain]

Speaking of candles --is anyone else pissed off at how you need to stop using hearts to get any money from candles?  Candles used to be assigned specific items: large heart, small heart, various amount of gold, sub weapons.... but now its always small hearts until you max out and then you're rewarded with petty amounts of gold.  Come to think of it candles were also more plentiful in the older games too.  Are IGA's people too lazy to decide how to distribute candle spoils?  This pet peeve is right up there with copy/paste stage design for me... --the first thing I would fix about the last few games...

[dark_soul]

weird huh, when i played SotN i saw the Difference of HP,MP and HEART, at first i thought projectiles are cost of MP and the hearts were Alucard's Lives since that was the very first PS 2D game platformed i played i never heard of HEARTS before,

Speaking of candles --is anyone else pissed off at how you need to stop using hearts to get any money from candles?  Candles used to be assigned specific items: large heart, small heart, various amount of gold, sub weapons.... but now its always small hearts until you max out and then you're rewarded with petty amounts of gold.  Come to think of it candles were also more plentiful in the older games too.  Are IGA's people too lazy to decide how to distribute candle spoils?  This pet peeve is right up there with copy/paste stage design for me... --the first thing I would fix about the last few games...

well before there we're less weapons in castlevania games, and other than using belmonts whip the players would rather rely on using projectiles such as knives, axes, holy waters and etc. larger hearts meaning better amount of usage of projectiles but nowadays from SoTN above most weapons we're released, and less projectile weapons are used... OoE doesn't use much of Hearts but if you used them it's pretty hard to fill them all up... im not kinda pissed off of hearts at SOTN but i was at DoS, coz certain areas needed specific money to enter at but what i mostly get at candles are HEARTS if Heroes doesn't use hearts in game, i think it would rely to ammo which is really stupid to start with XD

[CapComMDb]

from SoTN above most weapons we're released, and less projectile weapons are used... OoE doesn't use much of Hearts but if you used them it's pretty hard to fill them all up...

That's right - I hadn't thought about the larger number of hearts today versus back then. Physical weapons just dealt more damage in previous Metroidvanias. Special attacks are pretty devastating in OoE, but they also take a LOT more hearts - really the equivalent of item crashes. It takes longer to fill them up too unless you've got the heart gear equipped. On the other hand, if you made the weapons use less hearts, then it would be easier to collect hearts and make those devastating attacks. Sounds like a bit of a balance issue...

Also, couldn't you completely fill your hearts in other games by going to a save point? (I know you can't do that in SotN...).

[dark_soul]

That's right - I hadn't thought about the larger number of hearts today versus back then. Physical weapons just dealt more damage in previous Metroidvanias. Special attacks are pretty devastating in OoE, but they also take a LOT more hearts - really the equivalent of item crashes. It takes longer to fill them up too unless you've got the heart gear equipped. On the other hand, if you made the weapons use less hearts, then it would be easier to collect hearts and make those devastating attacks. Sounds like a bit of a balance issue...

and also, i'll add this...

in the early castlevania series no other person in the castles we're included, remember when playing castlevania on SNES no shops was invented, meaning that you have to finish the game using whip and a ton of projectile weapons, also, golds back then we're points and doesn't much be found on candles, now in replace of hearts from where shops in castlevania arrived, the golds we're now stored in candles, so it's not hard for you to collect money while seeing candles as well...

(maybe belmonts doesn't know how to buy stuff  )

Also, couldn't you completely fill your hearts in other games by going to a save point? (I know you can't do that in SotN...).

yeah before i know it could be done, but usually it really doesn't so the best way is to find a candle that is near a save point and fill up, at OoE you really have to go to the village in order to refill up immediately for emergencies...

[kevinski]

In Reply To #13

You can fill up your hearts pretty quickly in SotN by equipping the Blood Cloak and just letting certain enemies (even bosses) knock you around a bit. Really, there's no reason to use any of the other cloaks once you have the Blood Cloak, unless you just wanna choose your own colors by using Joseph's Cloak.

[azielsatori]

Vampire Cloak = sex.