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What is Death?
« on: December 10, 2008, 12:23:39 AM »
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What is Death?
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Re: What is Death?
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2008, 12:49:49 AM »
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As stated by the games, he is the god who governs Death.

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Re: What is Death?
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2008, 03:40:26 AM »
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a miserable little pile of bones. and a cloak.

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Re: What is Death?
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2008, 04:44:20 AM »
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Re: What is Death?
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2008, 12:29:08 PM »
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As stated by the games, he is the god who governs Death.
If that is true, then why is he working for Dracula.  If he is a god who governs death, then won't he be unbiased?
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Re: What is Death?
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2008, 01:24:11 PM »
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a miserable little pile of bones. and a cloak.

Damn you beat me to it!

Well i believe in most characterizations, Death is a guide of sorts to the after life. Normally he would be unbiased, being a guide and all, but this is not the case in CV. Since Death is controlled by Big D, he is now an entity that seeks to collect the souls of those of threaten Dracula. So your soul hunting daemon notion is not to far off since his previous function is now over-ridden.

However, if you go with the whole personification of death angle you would have to argue that the stone gave death this physical form....i say that's a hard sell.



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Re: What is Death?
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2008, 02:29:07 PM »
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If that is true, then why is he working for Dracula.

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Re: What is Death?
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2008, 07:28:47 PM »
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Again, we go back to the games. Dracula possesses the crimson stone.

I know that, but what does the crimson stone have to do with Death?
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Re: What is Death?
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2008, 08:05:49 PM »
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In Reply To #8

If you remember from Lament of Innocence, Death only obeys his "master, who wields the Crimson Stone."
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Re: What is Death?
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2008, 10:05:21 PM »
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If that is true, then why is he working for Dracula.
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Re: What is Death?
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2008, 01:33:39 AM »
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Eh, the universe made him owned by a stone made by man.... stuff happens. It's like Gods in other stories that has to obey someone because they were sealed or chained by something.

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Re: What is Death?
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2008, 02:31:34 PM »
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I see Death as more of a friend --a willing accomplicce rather than Dracula's slave.  Canon is vague on the issue --Death doesn't hail Dracula his master in Lament --he merely offers Walter's soul to Mathias "the King who wields the Crimson Stone" like a gift...  This hardly implies that Death is somehow enslaved by the stone --although that remains a possibility as well...

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Re: What is Death?
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2008, 06:14:09 PM »
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Well, the monster encyclopedia of LoI states that he is "loyal to the owner of the crimson stone."  It says nothing about him being a slave though.
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Re: What is Death?
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2008, 11:21:35 PM »
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I think Death may be some manner of formerly divine being, as Leon does mention his powers are of divine origin.

My guess is that Death was something akin to a heavenly guide who abused his powers and was cast out as a result.

As for his connection to the Crimson Stone, it's possible that it may be what keeps Death from going to Hell, if my above theory is correct. But, the stone wouldn't work unless it had bonded to a soul from our world, so Death protects the person who holds the stone, in this case, Dracula.
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Re: What is Death?
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2008, 11:32:20 PM »
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I kinda thought that Death was the Angel of Death (and that his name would be Samael), and his role was to collect the souls of the dead and take them to wherever they're going. In Castlevania, however, he can be manipulated and controlled to some extent.
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