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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #75 on: June 09, 2009, 07:04:21 PM »
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All of which were made post-Symphony (and were intended as sidestories to begin with) so there is no excuse for conflicting with Symphony of the Night.

I can see how Circle conflicts with the plot of Symphony, but how exactly does CV64 conflict with Symphony's plot, those events took place like 60 years later?  And honestly, the idea that CV64 was intended as a sidestory to begin with is complete BS.  CV64 was a console release, you don't make your console games the side projects and your handheld games the main story focus.  When CV64 came out, it was absolutely intended as a main CV game, not a side story.

I'm counting seven; unless IGA was involved in the SNES port of Dracula X (I've found nothing saying he was) and the original version of "Chronicles" on the X680000. I've found nothing stating he was though I may be mistaken in this regard~

OK I got my count wrong, but the SNES game was ported from a game that IGA was part of, and CV Chronicles was just a retelling of the original story.  Of the five game post-1991 that actually added to the overall plot and that IGA wasn't involved with, he retconned four.

And in the process would be disregarding every single game made in the Castlevania series thus far, if this were to become its new official face - what with the fact that it isn't connected to anything.

In regards to this, I'm just going to quote something that a wise man once said... "FURTHERMORE; Whether or not a game is canon, it doesn't matter; being non-canon does not invalidate a games existence nor does it affect your ability to enjoy it."

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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #76 on: June 09, 2009, 07:22:40 PM »
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I can see how Circle conflicts with the plot of Symphony, but how exactly does CV64 conflict with Symphony's plot, those events took place like 60 years later?
I believe Dracula stated in cv64 that it's been over a century since he last awoke, yet Symphony takes place in 1797. So there ya go.

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And honestly, the idea that CV64 was intended as a sidestory to begin with is complete BS.

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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #77 on: June 09, 2009, 07:33:50 PM »
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In regards to this, I'm just going to quote something that a wise man once said... "FURTHERMORE; Whether or not a game is canon, it doesn't matter; being non-canon does not invalidate a games existence nor does it affect your ability to enjoy it."
It's also been made perfectly clear that the timeline is incomplete. If the timeline was complete and had a sense of closure, sure; but it isn't and it doesn't. Decanon-izing one game is different then decanonizing an entire, incomplete, timeline.
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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #78 on: June 09, 2009, 07:40:18 PM »
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Arguments please. Also, Alucard + Sonia = Trevor never happend because that's just fandom.

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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #79 on: June 09, 2009, 08:01:14 PM »
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It's also been made perfectly clear that the timeline is incomplete. If the timeline was complete and had a sense of closure, sure; but it isn't and it doesn't. Decanon-izing one game is different then decanonizing an entire, incomplete, timeline.

How is the story incomplete, how does it not have closure?  It starts with that whole Leon-Mathias thing, and ends with Soma.  What's left to add?  Just because we don't have yet another Metroidvania to represent the 1999 story, doesn't mean it isn't part of IGA's timeline.  The Dracula novel doesn't have a Metroidvania game either, but thats included in IGA's timeline.  So IGA has told his story, now its time for a fresh start.



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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #80 on: June 09, 2009, 08:16:17 PM »
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What's left to add?
300 years of vampire/monster slaying.

That's why I'm hopingpraying LoS takes place during that period..

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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #81 on: June 09, 2009, 09:07:29 PM »
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Clara is right.
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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #82 on: June 10, 2009, 12:09:27 AM »
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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #83 on: June 10, 2009, 04:42:01 AM »
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Aww, thanks <3

I believe Dracula stated in cv64 that it's been over a century since he last awoke, yet Symphony takes place in 1797. So there ya go.

I never really got that. He is reborn as Malus 7 -8 years before the events of CV64 (1844) but Cornell also mentions in LoD it wasn't time for Dracula to be revived after quite some time. So basically, the story is contradicting itself. That's some really messed up storytelling.
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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #84 on: June 10, 2009, 08:12:11 AM »
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300 years of vampire/monster slaying.

That's why I'm hopingpraying LoS takes place during that period..

So I guess I'm not getting it.  Is the timeline incomplete because the 1999 story hasn't been told in the form of a game, or is it incomplete because we have 300 years of open plot space which ends with Mathias raising an army of monsters (and for some unknown reason changing his name to be the same as a 15th century tyrant)?

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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #85 on: June 10, 2009, 12:40:26 PM »
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Both reason.

And they still have to make a game about Quincy Morris.
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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #86 on: June 10, 2009, 01:25:33 PM »
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A couple of years ago he mentioned planning a game involving Elizabeth Bathory. I think his intention was to somehow try and clarify the whole mess Bloodlines has created, especially versus the Mathias origin.


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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #87 on: June 10, 2009, 02:30:26 PM »
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But if we got all of that right away, we'd have nothing to look forward to
What a horrible night to have a curse!

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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #88 on: June 10, 2009, 04:02:58 PM »
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A couple of years ago he mentioned planning a game involving Elizabeth Bathory. I think his intention was to somehow try and clarify the whole mess Bloodlines has created, especially versus the Mathias origin.

What mess did Bloodlines create?

And they still have to make a game about Quincy Morris.

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Re: Why does IGA keep writing checks he never cashes?
« Reply #89 on: June 10, 2009, 07:46:03 PM »
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So you'd rather have an incoherent story? Besides, you would have looked forward to each event between the releases of the games. However, now it looks like we MAY never know.

Its not an incoherent story! We know what happened in 1999, even if there is no game of it. There is no need for a Quincy Morris game, just read/watch Bram Stoker's Dracula. The only piece missing, really, is what happens to Richter and the whip. And even that doesn't bother me all that much. I can not understand why people think the time line is sooo fucked up because we're missing one piece of the puzzle!
What a horrible night to have a curse!

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