Topic: You still think Lords of Shadow is a CV?

[Rictrunks]

I love Lords of Shadow but it's not a Castlevania.

It's announced with only "Lords of Shadow" name, lack of CV title (at E3 2008). And it's nothing about Castlevania.

After that, on Tokyo Game Show 2008, we saw the REAL CASTLEVANIA NEXT-GEN, is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phX4ExPgHr8

That was a real Castlevania with Alucard and from Japanese developers (Probably from IGA).

So, what did we see this year?

THEY'VE ADDED CASTLEVANIA NAME TO LORDS OF SHADOW! IT'S NOT ETHIC FOR CV FANS! (or just for me).

THEY SHOW US CHARACTERS WHO AREN'T from BELMONT family! (WHO THE F* IS GABRIEL?!)

THEY'VE CANCELLED THE ORIGINAL NEXT-GEN CASTLEVANIA because of Hideo Kojima.

Lords of Shadow will be a great game, but it's not going to be a Castlevania game! I hate Kojima but he's making great games. Also Kojima is not making Lords of Shadow. He's just visiting Spain some times (Yes, developers are totally Spanish). The game's producer or director is NOT Kojima.

Let's read the lies:

We were a bit perplexed when Konami announced Castlevania: Lords of Shadow at E3 earlier this year. The reason: Konami announced the exact same game last year, minus the "Castlevania" in the title. Many of us here at the 'Stiq had assumed that Konami had seen an opportunity to raise the profile of the title by attaching the Castlevania name but, according to producer David Cox, that wasn't the case.

Cox tells 1UP that the game was always meant to be a Castlevania title, but the association was removed when it was first announced at E3 2008. It seems Konami didn't want to steal any thunder from its then upcoming Castlevania: Judgment. Probably a good call, considering Judgment's nominal thunder could be stolen by a reasonably large rubber ball.

What? What is "Konami didn't want to steal any thunder from its then upcoming Castlevania: Judgment"?!

Do you belive?

I don't.

Good bye to the real next-gen Castlevania:

[justin312]

In Reply To #1

Rictrunks... Please go back and read the multiple interviews that are posted up all over the Lords of Shadow thread.  It has been confirmed, and re-confirmed, that Lords of Shadow was intended to be Castlevania from the very beginning.

If you don't like the looks of it, thats fine.  But can we drop the stupid conspiracy theories already?

[Rictrunks]

It has been confirmed, and re-confirmed, that Lords of Shadow was intended to be Castlevania from the very beginning.

I don't believe it. I said my reasons.

[justin312]

In Reply To #3

Well, have fun sitting in a corner with tinfoil on your head watching the teaser for the now defunct Alucard game.

[Gunlord]

In Reply To #1

I sympathize with you, Rictrunks, as I've said in the other thread. However, I think we have an obligation not to be too vociferous in our complaints...I mean, if we look like a bunch of whiny fanboys, that won't help our position and will just make people less sympathetic to us! Like I said in the other thread, although I'm not too happy about Lords of Shadow, I'll prolly buy it anyways, just to see...who knows, maybe it'll have more Castlevania in it than the developers are letting on, maybe they're withholding a LOT of classic Castlevania references to give us a nice surprise or somethin So let's not give in to despair just yet. Have hope, my friend ;;_;;

[Rictrunks]

Of course watching that Alucard teaser is better than seeing and reading these stupid things from Kojima-side.

[justin312]

In Reply To #6

Why?  Just because Alucard is in it?  Beyond that you get no info at all from that teaser.  For all we know the Alucard game might have been terrible.

[Reinhart77]

heh, I'm not giving up on the Alucard game until I see that Iga's working on a non-Castlevania game at the Tokyo Game Show.

[Sindra]

I love Lords of Shadow but it's not a Castlevania.

It's announced with only "Lords of Shadow" name, lack of CV title (at E3 2008). And it's nothing about Castlevania.

After that, on Tokyo Game Show 2008, we saw the REAL CASTLEVANIA NEXT-GEN, is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phX4ExPgHr8

That was a real Castlevania with Alucard and from Japanese developers (Probably from IGA).

So, what did we see this year?

THEY'VE ADDED CASTLEVANIA NAME TO LORDS OF SHADOW! IT'S NOT ETHIC FOR CV FANS! (or just for me).

THEY SHOW US CHARACTERS WHO AREN'T from BELMONT family! (WHO THE F* IS GABRIEL?!)

THEY'VE CANCELLED THE ORIGINAL NEXT-GEN CASTLEVANIA because of Hideo Kojima.

Lords of Shadow will be a great game, but it's not going to be a Castlevania game! I hate Kojima but he's making great games. Also Kojima is not making Lords of Shadow. He's just visiting Spain some times (Yes, developers are totally Spanish). The game's producer or director is NOT Kojima.

Let's read the lies:

What? What is "Konami didn't want to steal any thunder from its then upcoming Castlevania: Judgment"?!

Do you belive?

I don't.

Good bye to the real next-gen Castlevania:

Then you're being ignorant, because the recent extended trailer states that the Belmont's are referenced in the game. Whether you like it or not, Lords of Shadow is going to be a Castlevania game, and if you want to live in your world of ignorant bliss, then have fun. Meanwhile the rest of us are going to continue watching the new trailers of the game hoping that *someone* (and I say that meaning Kojima) can actually deliver a decent 3D Castlevania game.

Saying "Lords of Shadow is NOT a Castlevania Game" is just a personal opinion. Just like saying Kojima's Castlevania is stupid. Whatever....it's your OPINION. Despite that, there is proof to the contrary. Just keep in mind that no matter how hard you want to believe otherwise, there is proof you are wrong other than your opinions and you should really stop while you're ahead.


And where the heck do you have proof that they canceled they other next-gen Castlevania game? (and by that, I mean the one with Alucard in the teaser) I haven't heard anything about that being canceled.

[Reinhart77]

If they do end up canceling "SotN 2", then it would probably have been canceled for its own reasons not related to LoS, and perhaps more to due with Judgment's reception.  They were working on LoS as a closet Castlevania game since before the Alucard trailer was released.  I simply can't believe that they would have "forced" Iga to make the trailer if they weren't originally intending on releasing both CV games.  I think they don't want to steal LoS's thunder with the Alucard game now in the same way they didn't want to steal Judgment's thunder with LoS.

[Dark Nemesis]

In Reply To #3

In a recent interview with David Cox from 1up, it was confirmed that Gabriel is a Belmont.

[Rictrunks]

You're saying "recent interview". The developers add Belmont storyline to game intentionally, deliberately; afterwards because of including Castlevania name to Lords of Shadow title. Developers don't have to say truth, always. And you don't have to believe them. To believe or not believe this theory DOESN'T make the game good or bad. I'm not saying "hey don't play this game because this isn't Castlevania". I try to say "the game will be great and I strongly believe this game is NOT originally a Castlevania. Developers are lying."

[Dark Nemesis]

In Reply To #12

Maybe yes, maybe no.......you'll never know the truth. Only time will show if this move from Konami was good or bad. I have my own doubts about the game, but i'll give it a try to show me what it has to offer me. If they are going to abandon the old series, then i will get mad and i want forgive Konami for doing so and in my turn, i'll abandon the Castlevania series.

[shelverton.]

Well, I STRONGLY believe that this game was a CV from day one. Cox even said that he was surprised more people didn't see that LoS was in fact a CV back in 2008. He was also disappointed when Konami didn't want to reveal the game for what it was - a CV.

I obviously have no proof, but neither have you. I still think it was CV all along. The first trailer SCREAMED Castlevania, even though some of you would disagree.

I can see why they wanted to focus on Ecclesia and Judgment, because LoS is a rebirth of the series and it would've been too confusing to have all those games announced at the very same time.

The Alucardvania from TGS 2008 is most likely still in production. It's a newer game than LoS (LoS had been in development for quite some time when we first saw the teaser for the Alucard game, and IGA didn't even wanna show it so soon, or so I've heard.)

To me, LoS is 110% Castlevania. And even if it started out as something completely different (which I don't believe) it's a Castlevania now, and that's all that matters.

[A-Yty]

I can't think of a single CV forum that didn't notice how CVish the first teaser was. And many, including myself, kept feeling around the idea it was actually a CV kept a secret as part of the marketing (this was actually one of the similarities LoS shares with my fake IMDB review of SQ remake I did about two years ago).

But I think the initial project wasn't Castlevania and it wasn't one when the teaser was released. The later statements reek of purposeful explonations and simple marketing. Understandably they don't want to "cheapen" the project by admitting it was, at best, a CV-inspired project in the beginning, but a different game nonetheless.

Until I get solid proof I'm going to assume this. But yeah, the outcome is what matters.