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My Thoughts on a New Direction the Series Can Go
« on: January 02, 2010, 06:44:25 PM »
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I've been thinking about this for a while.  The storyline as it is now is starting to get a little stall and there are several plot holes.  I really think that Konami should make games that act as side stories the either enhance our understanding of the characters or fill in some of the plot holes.  Examples of this are games about Sypha before CV3, what Dracula did between LoI and CV3, Maria's search for Richter before the events of SotN, what the Belmonts did between LoI and CV3, already made games but you play though what the other characters did during the main story of the game (example: what Alucard did in the castle during AoS), etc.
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Re: My Thoughts on a New Direction the Series Can Go
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2010, 07:50:57 PM »
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I don't think the overall story of CV is getting stale at all, since each game is basically self-contained. Like you said I think the era that has vast room for potential is the 300 years that Dracula was dormant. After the events of CVIII, there's not much to tell in detail since Dracula isn't allowed to survive for more than 1 night (however, there are many questions to be answered about Dracula's whereabouts between CVA & Belmont's Revenge). That's what I like about most of the games; the plots are short and sweet, they don't really require epic storytelling. LoS will have an epic story, though. I still see where you're coming from, future games (preferably Metroidvanias) could expand on the dialogue & characters a bit. OoE had this, but it seemed artificial. Where were the other members of Ecclesia? How did Barlowe receive the knowledge of Dominus? etc.

The other tidbits you mentioned, can possibly be covered in radio dramas, mangas, things like that.

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Re: My Thoughts on a New Direction the Series Can Go
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2010, 02:26:51 AM »
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I was thinking about the 300 years of dormancy, and came up with some plot ideas.  But I'm not up on the plot details of LoI or Cod, both of which could throw my whole idea off.  Is Lisa the the mother of Alucard mentioned in SotN, the wife of Dracula's who died in LoI? Is the origin of Devil Forging mentioned in CoD?

What about the idea of a corrupt, aristocratic Belmont using a secret fraternity of Devil forge masters (Know as the "Order of the New Moon") to stir terror in the mind of his subjects, so he could be viewed as the heroic lord leading the fight against the evil of the "mythical" vampire lord?  All the while Vladimir, a prominent member of the Order, and his wife Lisa, give birth to a son, named Adrian.  I should add Lord Belmont IS evil of his own volition, not under any king of mind control.

Years Later, a Lord from on of the Lesser Noble families, Alexander DyNasty, and His loyal knight Aaron Lecrade set out to aid Lord Belmont by seeking out the source of the evil.  Along the way, they meet two young vampire hunters,  The Nephew of Lord Belmont, and a Mysterious young man who operates under the name of "Alucard."  This could prove a key game for the series plot, Chronicling a lot of the history used in the other games.
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Re: My Thoughts on a New Direction the Series Can Go
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2010, 03:23:42 AM »
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I would like to see more of the side characters tho, since they are pretty cool. Sypha, Hammer from AoS, Maxim from HoD...it'd be nice to see more of them ^^

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Re: My Thoughts on a New Direction the Series Can Go
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2010, 03:05:01 AM »
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I know I've mentioned it here before, but I'd like to see Dracula kill a Belmont, at least at the beginning of the game. Then let him have a reign of terror on the land. Not a brief one, like setting a villiage on fire, but something with him and his army crippling the region as a whole through an extended period of time. This could establish him as more of a threat, instead of just being a guy who shows up every so often, only to get his ass kicked and banished once again.

Then another Belmont could be introduced in this game. Have HIM kick Dracula's ass.  ;D
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Re: My Thoughts on a New Direction the Series Can Go
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2010, 03:10:37 AM »
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I know I've mentioned it here before, but I'd like to see Dracula kill a Belmont, at least at the beginning of the game. Then let him have a reign of terror on the land. Not a brief one, like setting a villiage on fire, but something with him and his army crippling the region as a whole through an extended period of time. This could establish him as more of a threat, instead of just being a guy who shows up every so often, only to get his ass kicked and banished once again.

Then another Belmont could be introduced in this game. Have HIM kick Dracula's ass.  ;D

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Re: My Thoughts on a New Direction the Series Can Go
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2010, 07:59:22 PM »
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Another idea would be actually playing as Dracula during his "Dormant" period, in his quest to build up his power and further master the dark arts.  I could see  "good" versions of Axe Knights, and the various "Armor Lord" enemies seen in games since Dracula X.

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Re: My Thoughts on a New Direction the Series Can Go
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2010, 01:50:34 AM »
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I was thinking about the 300 years of dormancy, and came up with some plot ideas.  But I'm not up on the plot details of LoI or Cod, both of which could throw my whole idea off.  Is Lisa the the mother of Alucard mentioned in SotN, the wife of Dracula's who died in LoI? Is the origin of Devil Forging mentioned in CoD?

What about the idea of a corrupt, aristocratic Belmont using a secret fraternity of Devil forge masters (Know as the "Order of the New Moon") to stir terror in the mind of his subjects, so he could be viewed as the heroic lord leading the fight against the evil of the "mythical" vampire lord?  All the while Vladimir, a prominent member of the Order, and his wife Lisa, give birth to a son, named Adrian.  I should add Lord Belmont IS evil of his own volition, not under any king of mind control.

Years Later, a Lord from on of the Lesser Noble families, Alexander DyNasty, and His loyal knight Aaron Lecrade set out to aid Lord Belmont by seeking out the source of the evil.  Along the way, they meet two young vampire hunters,  The Nephew of Lord Belmont, and a Mysterious young man who operates under the name of "Alucard."  This could prove a key game for the series plot, Chronicling a lot of the history used in the other games.



Enough with Alucard for awhile. People act as if he's Superman. He was in enough games already.

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Re: My Thoughts on a New Direction the Series Can Go
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2010, 02:51:19 AM »
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Enough with Alucard for awhile. People act as if he's Superman. He was in enough games already.
True, but he has only been the main character once.  Sure he was one of the allies Trevor could take along in CV3, but SotN was the only game in which he was the main hero.  I'll admit that most Belmonts only had one game of their own, but that's because their only human and eventually die of old age.  Alucard can't die of old age.  He's half-vampire.  Someone has to kill him in order for him to die.

On another note, I agree with those who think that there should be a game in which we play as Dracula during the 300 years between LoI and CV3.
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Re: My Thoughts on a New Direction the Series Can Go
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2010, 09:42:49 PM »
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I was thinking about the 300 years of dormancy, and came up with some plot ideas.  But I'm not up on the plot details of LoI or Cod, both of which could throw my whole idea off.  Is Lisa the the mother of Alucard mentioned in SotN, the wife of Dracula's who died in LoI? Is the origin of Devil Forging mentioned in CoD?

Elisabetha is the woman who upon her death made Mathias turn into Dracula.
The he marries Lisa, who plays quite an important role in SotN, even thou she is dead. (did they really get married? since marriages are blessed and something from God), and as far as I've heard Lisa resembles Elisabetha.
You know, just as in Stockers Novel.
The origin of Devil Forging is never mentioned, the only thing we know is that there were only two persons who knew about the art at that time, Hector and Isac.

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Re: My Thoughts on a New Direction the Series Can Go
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2010, 12:19:48 AM »
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Elisabetha is the woman who upon her death made Mathias turn into Dracula.
The he marries Lisa, who plays quite an important role in SotN, even thou she is dead. (did they really get married? since marriages are blessed and something from God), and as far as I've heard Lisa resembles Elisabetha.
You know, just as in Stockers Novel.
The origin of Devil Forging is never mentioned, the only thing we know is that there were only two persons who knew about the art at that time, Hector and Isac.
Correction, Hector and Issac were the only who possessed the knowledge of and the ability to use devil forging at the time.  If you read the manga, you would know that several humans traveled to Dracula's castle to learn various dark and forbidden arts.  It's just that Hector and Issac were the most powerful and skilled devil forgemasters.
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Re: My Thoughts on a New Direction the Series Can Go
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2010, 10:56:26 AM »
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Well, since Devil Forging is an art of Alchemy, there is a pretty high chance that Dracula taught Hector and Isaac since he used to be an alchemist and stuff.   

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Re: My Thoughts on a New Direction the Series Can Go
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2010, 11:00:18 AM »
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Well, since Devil Forging is an art of Alchemy, there is a pretty high chance that Dracula taught Hector and Isaac since he used to be an alchemist and stuff.   

Also there is a chance the Alucard would also have knowledge of this.

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Re: My Thoughts on a New Direction the Series Can Go
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2010, 05:34:20 PM »
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Correction, Hector and Issac were the only who possessed the knowledge of and the ability to use devil forging at the time.  If you read the manga, you would know that several humans traveled to Dracula's castle to learn various dark and forbidden arts.  It's just that Hector and Issac were the most powerful and skilled devil forgemasters.

I've never read the manga.. I only have the games to go on.

Also there is a chance the Alucard would also have knowledge of this.

Probably. He does infact have familiars in SotN.
Can these familiars be ID's??

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Re: My Thoughts on a New Direction the Series Can Go
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2010, 07:10:45 PM »
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I've never read the manga.. I only have the games to go on.

Probably. He does infact have familiars in SotN.
Can these familiars be ID's??


Could be. Lets not forget he created the Alucard Spear which Eric uses to compliment the power of the Vampire Killer.

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