Topic: The 100 year rule

[Lumas]

Yeah, he was confused, Elizabeth bathory caused WWI in Bloodlines, Brauner did nothing about WWII

Actually i did some quick research and found out his daughters died in WW1 which occured in 1914. He did however use the souls of those who died in WW2 to call forth Dracula's Castle. But I dont know if he actually started the war..

[X]

Wait I thought Brauner lost his daughters due to the WW2 because WW2 didn't start until 1941.

Actually WWII started with the invasion of Poland in December of 1939. But the Nazi party was well in existence since the early 1930's, possibly before that decade even. I'd have to research it to find out. In terms of starting the war Braunar had nothing to do with it. That was all Adolf Hitler (you know how Dark entities or Anti-Christs are). But Braunar would've used the souls of the suffering and hatred to summon up Castlevania.

-X

[Lumas]

Wait I thought Brauner lost his daughters due to the WW2 because WW2 didn't start until 1941.

Actually WWII started with the invasion of Poland in December of 1939. But the Nazi party was well in existence since the early 1930's, possibly before that decade even. I'd have to research it to find out. In terms of starting the war Braunar had nothing to do with it. That was all Adolf Hitler (you know how Dark entities or Anti-Christs are). But Braunar would've used the souls of the suffering and hatred to summon up Castlevania.

-X

Well put good sir.

[MeSako]

Actually i did some quick research and found out his daughters died in WW1 which occured in 1914. He did however use the souls of those who died in WW2 to call forth Dracula's Castle. But I dont know if he actually started the war..

Yeah, your right.. sorry about that.

[Lumas]

Yeah, your right.. sorry about that.

Its cool brother man.

[Nagumo]

Because it was stated...in the original i believe.. if not then yeah who ever worked on Rondo really messed up the series because they also stated Drac's age to be over 800.

Also Dracula never needed the assistance from anyone to revive, that was first introduced in Rondo. The previous games never showed him be awakened by anyone and in Super Cv 4 you clearly see the lighting bolt hit his grave and him in bat form fly away.

First you say that Dracula was revived prematurely by Shaft, and now you say that he revived once his own? I'm pretty sure you are wrong in both cases since you never had anything to back this up. Dracula never resurrected on his own by the way. The Japanese manual states that his followers revived him. Besides, that whole Dracula getting back himself thing was just a legend and the game made this pretty clear. You can once again find it in the manual.               

[Lumas]

First you say that Dracula was revived prematurely by Shaft, and now you say that he revived once his own? I'm pretty sure you are wrong in both cases since you never had anything to back this up. Dracula never resurrected on his own by the way. The Japanese manual states that his followers revived. Besides, that whole Dracula getting back himself thing was just a legend and the game  made this pretty clear in the game itself. You can once again find it in the manual.               

After reading the manual I find you are correct in saying that he did in fact have people bring him back from the dead in super castlevania.

But Rondo is clearly wrong in its math

Prologue

"In the days of old, the people thrived on peace and prosperity. Indeed, fears of unrest were not among their thoughts...

Everpresent, however, is the underside of tranquility, evil. Evil, which spurns prosperity and disdains peace.

Gather they did, those who wished to summon the powers of darkness and cleanse the decadence of the world. And, with smiling countenance, they anxiously awaited the coming of their era.

A hundred years had past, and he was resurrected. Able to become bat, wolf, or mist at will, he lived in the night. He drank the blood of young maidens and lived an eternal life. The lord of Demon Castle, the god of evil, Count Dracula was reborn."

Actually only 94 years had passed.

[Successor The Cruel]

That's pretty negligible. I don't think Dracula resurrects precisely at 12:00 am on the exact same day of the same month when he was killed one hundred years before. And Rondo is off by one year. Dracula was killed by Simon in 1691. Dracula returns in Rondo in 1792. Actually, for all we know, it may not have been a year. It could have been a matter of months.

[Lumas]

That's pretty negligible. I don't think Dracula resurrects precisely at 12:00 am on the exact same month of the same day of when he was killed one hundred years before. And Rondo is off by one year. Dracula was killed by Simon in 1691. Dracula returns in Rondo in 1792.

Actually Simon resurrected Dracula and killed him again in 1698.

[Nagumo]

There is some speculation that Dracula from Simon's Quest was just a wraith and not his true self, just like in Harmony. Something that support this the Japanese storyline; Dracula put a curse on Simon and wouldn't get resurrected until he died. Obviously, Simon didn't die and I don't think he revived Dracula either. I think that when all the remains of Dracula's body were brought together, an evil spirit (which should be the Dracula Wraith) was born. I believe that's also how the Wraith from Harmony was created.

This might as well be speculation but I think this is the only explanation that makes sense. 

Oh, and premature ressurections don't effect Dracula's ressurection cycle by the way. Although I admit that if the Dracula from Simon's Quest was the real Dracula then you were right that he would have been revived in 1798 because Rondo states that it has been 100 years since his last revival, premature or otherwise.

I hope I don't sound confusing as hell.                                             

[Lumas]

There is some speculation that Dracula from Simon's Quest was just a wraith and not his true self, just like in Harmony. Something that support this the Japanese storyline; Dracula put a curse on Simon and wouldn't get resurrected until he died. Obviously, Simon didn't die and I don't think he revived Dracula either. I think that when all the remains of Dracula's body were brought together, an evil spirit (which should be the Dracula Wraith) was born. I believe that's also how the Wraith from Harmony was created.

This might as well be speculation but I think this is the only explanation that makes sense. 

Oh, and premature ressurections don't effect Dracula's ressurection cycle by the way. Although I admit that if the Dracula from Simon's Quest was the real Dracula then you were right that he would have been revived in 1798 because Rondo states that it has been 100 years since his last revival, premature or otherwise.

I hope I don't sound confusing as hell.                                             

And you know I dont care anymore lol

So all I can say right now is well done nagumo-chan

[Lumas]

Actually just realized that last post sounded kind of assholeish there. Sorry if it came out like. What i should have stated was at this point after 3 pages of arguing I dont care anymore who is right or wrong the whole point of this topic has now been deluded by 3 pages of who is right and who is wrong which wasn't my objective. But I shouldve have stated the first post a little differently so my bad.

You were right and you provided a good intellectual argument, though I admit was frustrating at moments lol but a good one and Im glad you didn't lose your cool and we came to a good conclusion out of it. Well done nagumo chan and good game. And sorry if that last post came off negative.

[Successor The Cruel]

Actually Simon resurrected Dracula and killed him again in 1698.

It should be very clear that premature resurrections (like Simon's Quest) aren't what are followed concerning Dracula's 100 year slumber. Dracula was also resurrected in 1748 (Harmony of Dissonance), but he awakens in 1792 (roughly 100 years since his full resurrection in which he was killed by Simon).

[darkwzrd4]

It should be very clear that premature resurrections (like Simon's Quest) aren't what are followed concerning Dracula's 100 year slumber. Dracula was also resurrected in 1748 (Harmony of Dissonance), but he awakens in 1792 (roughly 100 years since his full resurrection in which he was killed by Simon).

That wasn't really Dracula in HoD.  It was just the evil spirit born in Maxim's body using Dracula's remains.

[Successor The Cruel]

That's really not entirely certain, but since he looked like Dracula, dressed like Dracula, fought like Dracula, and was called the Dracula Wraith, and the castles crumble when he dies, for the sake of the discussion (and also since he uses that logic above when mentioning Simon's Quest), I'm going to assume he was Dracula.