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Re: Shanoa's real name
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2010, 12:51:12 AM »
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Perhaps, IGA has not decided the real name of Shanoa.
from japanese magazine "game side" (february 2009)

Q: What is the bloodline of Shanoa?
     Belnades? Aulin? Shaft?

IGA: Solly, I have not decided anything.

Well if IGA produces another game maybe he will shed some more light on her.

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Re: Shanoa's real name
« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2010, 01:41:08 AM »
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It would certainly be a lot cooler if Shanoa happens to be the ancestor of someone EVIL from AoS or DoS (or that 1999 game). Though there's not enough room in the timeline to elaborate on such matter, unless they put another game between PoR and 1999. And who would Shanoa have a child with anyway? Nathan Graves perhaps, or Hugh Baldwin (depending on exactly when OoE takes place). Or anyone from Legacy of Darkness. Except they don't exist in the same timeline. Blah.

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Re: Shanoa's real name
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2010, 06:21:27 AM »
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I always thought that Shanoa's real name was supposed to be a huge plot twist in the game. But I guess not.

They shouldn't link her to any of the established famillies like Belnadeses (or even worse Belmonts) because that would only cheapen her character. I like just the way she is.           

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Re: Shanoa's real name
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2010, 08:29:14 AM »
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Perhaps she will be referenced in a future game.  For example:

 there could be another game with Soma in which someone evil tries to corrupt Soma using the Dominus glyph somehow.  After all, when someone who absorbed a glyph dies, it leaves their body.  It could be said that after Shanoa's death, someone took and seal the three dominus glyphs and stored them somewhere safe.  However, one day they were stolen.  And then, a monster with dominus attacks Soma.  He kills it and when the glyph appears he recognizes it as being connected to Dracula's power.  At which point, Arikado tells Soma not to go near it, that someone may be after him again, and to let him handle it.  However, like in DoS, Soma doesn't listen and gets further involved.

Something like this.  Also, the reason I think that the three glyphs are called Dominus is because they are suppose to be the strongest and thus they Dominate.  This all just speculation.
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Re: Shanoa's real name
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2010, 02:10:40 PM »
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Her name is Shanoa Canterbury.

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Re: Shanoa's real name
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2010, 03:13:57 PM »
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After I´d played OoE several times, I just came to the conclusion that, perhaps, Shanoa IS her real name.

It´s never stated elsewhere, just in that one interview, that it´s a codename. So yeah, I refuse to bother anymore just because of something that seems like IGAs former (?) vision of the Game.


---> But if Shanoa was just a Codename..... well, I always thought of "Lilly" to be a good name for her.
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Re: Shanoa's real name
« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2010, 03:54:24 PM »
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good point.  i think Albus would have certainly called her by her real name at least during some of the more heartwarming scenes.

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Re: Shanoa's real name
« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2010, 08:43:35 PM »
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good point.  i think Albus would have certainly called her by her real name at least during some of the more heartwarming scenes.
That assumes he knows what her real name is.
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Re: Shanoa's real name
« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2010, 09:05:48 PM »
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if "Shanoa" is a title, i don't think she would have gained it by the time she was a little girl playing tag with Albus.

it could be a name she was given because they didn't know her real name when she was found.  but probably not a title then.
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Re: Shanoa's real name
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2010, 09:59:19 PM »
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if "Shanoa" is a title, i don't think she would have gained it by the time she was a little girl playing tag with Albus.

it could be a name she was given because they didn't know her real name when she was found.  but probably not a title then.

So... *SPOILER if you haven't finished the game, whch I'm sure most of you have, but still...*...
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Shanoa and Albus aren't related by blood you mean? I can't remember the exact storyline now, but I thought they were real siblings? Again, I shouldn't skip dialogue in games :-[ If Shanoa was found as a child, it opens up for many cool possibilities. Maybe she's related to Elizabeth Bartley. Nah.

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Re: Shanoa's real name
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2010, 11:04:25 PM »
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I thought it was fitting to give Shanoa a bland background to go along with her total lack of emotions throughout most of the game.
HOWEVER, I do not excuse that Iga didn't bother to explain why the hell there are no Belmonts or how exactly the Morris clan gets involved. Sure they hint that everyone in the town is a descendant of the Belmonts; they even go as far as to hint that the old lady's grandfather was a vampire hunter, but come the fuck on! It is ok, from time to time, to reveal a little bit of the story in a non-ambiguous manner. I would have taken anything, a book item that tells what happened without using names, a cut scene, a friggin' still picture, but fuckin' something. As it stands we can assume anything even down to the most mundane and lame like the line just dying out through marriage.
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Re: Shanoa's real name
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2010, 08:48:14 AM »
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I thought it was fitting to give Shanoa a bland background to go along with her total lack of emotions throughout most of the game.
HOWEVER, I do not excuse that Iga didn't bother to explain why the hell there are no Belmonts or how exactly the Morris clan gets involved. Sure they hint that everyone in the town is a descendant of the Belmonts; they even go as far as to hint that the old lady's grandfather was a vampire hunter, but come the fuck on! It is ok, from time to time, to reveal a little bit of the story in a non-ambiguous manner. I would have taken anything, a book item that tells what happened without using names, a cut scene, a friggin' still picture, but fuckin' something. As it stands we can assume anything even down to the most mundane and lame like the line just dying out through marriage.
But that's not possible.  In the Sorrow games, Julius still has the Belmont last name.
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Re: Shanoa's real name
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2010, 02:55:19 PM »
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It appears that Death believed the Belmont Clan actually died out during that period of time.  He tells Simon in Judgment "Your line will die out and fade from memory... It is your fate."  Of course, we don't have complete context, but his dialog with Carmilla and Cornell makes me think he entered the Rift at the time of Legacy of Darkness.  

You know, if the Belmont Clan did die out, I think "Death" of all beings would have known.  Makes me think some awfully tricky magic was used to fool Death and the world, they actually "resurrected" in the late 20th century, or one of the offshoot clans such as the Morris's "became" the new Belmonts by their heroic accomplishments and ability to defeat Whip's memory.

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Re: Shanoa's real name
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2010, 03:47:33 PM »
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It appears that Death believed the Belmont Clan actually died out during that period of time.  He tells Simon in Judgment "Your line will die out and fade from memory... It is your fate."  Of course, we don't have complete context, but his dialog with Carmilla and Cornell makes me think he entered the Rift at the time of Legacy of Darkness.  

You know, if the Belmont Clan did die out, I think "Death" of all beings would have known.  Makes me think some awfully tricky magic was used to fool Death and the world, they actually "resurrected" in the late 20th century, or one of the offshoot clans such as the Morris's "became" the new Belmonts by their heroic accomplishments and ability to defeat Whip's memory.
But then in AoS and DoS, Julius would be shortening his life-span and he shows no such sign.  Then again, that detail of the whip shortening the lives of non-direct Belmont descendants wasn't added until PoR which came out in 2006 (after AoS and DoS).
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Re: Shanoa's real name
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2010, 04:14:07 PM »
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being able to defeat Whip's Memory would only be one of the steps along the way to become a "true" Belmont that would be able to wield it without the need for it to take the life force.  something else may have happened after Portrait of Ruin.

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