Topic: Dracula's Curse movie will happen.

[crisis]

Looks like they're trying to bail on us, lol

[Nagumo]

Well, the producer seemed pretty confidant that the movie will happen. Not that I would mind if it didn't but I don't want to get my hopes up. This movie is going to be shit.

[Nox_A15]

This movie is going to be shit.

Why so sure about it? Film with actors should be abandoned, but this anime idea is great in my opinion. And Dracula's Curse gives probably the best material for such animation, mostly because of interesting characters.

[Nagumo]

anime idea is great in my opinion. 

 

Heh, I would love it if this movie would use a dark anime style but that sadly won't happen. The art they shown so far is horrible except that banner at the top of the site and some art piece with both Trevor and Sypha.

The reason I thing this movie is going to blow is also because of the script. They made the mistake to hire a Western script writer who apperently knows nothing about the game or the series. I saw a summary of the plot and it is not very faithful to the Japanese storyline and doesn't feel like an adaption of Cv3 at all.           

I assure you that this movie won't do the masterpiece that is Akumajou Densetsu any justice.     

     

[Reinhart77]

its a very rare thing for a video game adaptation to be truly faithful.  i think they did a good job with "keeping to the basics" while putting their own spin on things.  they got just as many things "right" as they did "wrong" in the script synapsis.  its also hard to know what the animation will actually look and feel like when all we have is concept art, which i think is great as well.

oh, and here's the link to the synapsis we're talking about.  i keep expecting them to forcibly remove this from the web, put password protection around it, or fire whoever posted it, but it's still there. 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/14077952/Castlevania-Deck

[Thomas Belmont]

I really hope this movie was canceled. The script was horrendous.

[Nagumo]

That dude who posted that summary is the boss of the guy who produces the movie so I don't think it was leaked.   

[Nox_A15]

I've just read it and... I'm not so optimistic any more. But... it also isn't that bad. If audiovisuals will present proper quality then it can be interesting adaptation of the original story.

[Nagumo]

One thing I hate about this movie is that it contains unnecessary crap like those lame "Speakers". What's the point of having them?         

[Reinhart77]

well, things from this script get me thinking about other things.  like the possibility of Trevor being the "last Belmont" was an interesting thought.  the "Speakers" thing got me thinking about a possible tie-in to Simon's Quest.  all those cloaked people are called "Gypsies" in the original Japanese.  these people could just as well be called "Speakers".  if Sypha's a Speaker, could she also be a Gypsy?  i'm starting to think of the "Belnades Clan" and the Gypsies in Simon's Quest as pretty much one and the same thing.  when you saw a Gypsie, you always knew that they would give you no-bull and would be able to help you.  they were not afraid of Dracula (they would enter dangerous areas), they were not afraid of Simon.  could it be they thought of Simon as one of their own because of his descendancy from Sypha?  they helped him so much.  they were skilled in all sorts of magic, one of them knew how to enflame Simon's whip.  they appeared as spirits (another big thing for Sypha).  they did not accept coins, but instead leftover essences of slain beasts, perhaps they required this substance to perform their trade?  Castlevania talks about how the Belnades Clan has often helped the Belmont Clan, and I'd like to think SQ was one of those times.  Sypha's clothes also somewhat resembles the Gypsies.  i don't think its odd that Sypha would be a member of a group like this.  Carrie Fernandez was shown to be a member of a group like this as well.  i think it is essentially what the Belnades clan is.  i think giving them a proper name like "Speakers" in the movie is a lot better than calling them witches or gypsies.  one of the themes in Castlevania is the three-way struggle between the forces of darkness, the Church, and the Witches/Speakers/Gypsies/Heretics.  the script hit on that theme well.

[DragonSlayr81]

Wait, what "script" are you guys talking about? The only thing I see is the synopsis on those cards. Synopsis =/= scirpt.

[Profbeanburrito]

I welcome this, I like seeing an alternate take on something like this. Besides, they have to flesh it out a bit to make it an actual story. And with Warren Ellis having wrote the script, I think it'll be fine

[Reinhart77]

errr, um, synapsis that is.

i think a lot of the important events happen in this film, it's just the order in which they happen and the circumstances is what doesn't agree so well with canon.  

[Nox_A15]

well, things from this script get me thinking about other things.  like the possibility of Trevor being the "last Belmont" was an interesting thought.  the "Speakers" thing got me thinking about a possible tie-in to Simon's Quest.  all those cloaked people are called "Gypsies" in the original Japanese.  these people could just as well be called "Speakers".  if Sypha's a Speaker, could she also be a Gypsy?  i'm starting to think of the "Belnades Clan" and the Gypsies in Simon's Quest as pretty much one and the same thing.  when you saw a Gypsie, you always knew that they would give you no-bull and would be able to help you.  they were not afraid of Dracula (they would enter dangerous areas), they were not afraid of Simon.  could it be they thought of Simon as one of their own because of his descendancy from Sypha?  they helped him so much.  they were skilled in all sorts of magic, one of them knew how to enflame Simon's whip.  they appeared as spirits (another big thing for Sypha).  they did not accept coins, but instead leftover essences of slain beasts, perhaps they required this substance to perform their trade?  Castlevania talks about how the Belnades Clan has often helped the Belmont Clan, and I'd like to think SQ was one of those times.  Sypha's clothes also somewhat resembles the Gypsies.  i don't think its odd that Sypha would be a member of a group like this.  Carrie Fernandez was shown to be a member of a group like this as well.  i think it is essentially what the Belnades clan is.  i think giving them a proper name like "Speakers" in the movie is a lot better than calling them witches or gypsies.  one of the themes in Castlevania is the three-way struggle between the forces of darkness, the Church, and the Witches/Speakers/Gypsies/Heretics.  the script hit on that theme well.

Nicely observed!

I welcome this, I like seeing an alternate take on something like this. Besides, they have to flesh it out a bit to make it an actual story. And with Warren Ellis having wrote the script, I think it'll be fine

I hope you're right.

[Reinhart77]

oh yeah, another group of people that were probably a part of this same group are Isaac and Julia Laflorenze, and the two that fled with Isaac to Dracula's castle in the manga.  Isaac and his pals were shown to dress very much like the gypsies in Simon's Quest.  They may not be close relatives to Sypha Belnades, but probably of the same "people" or "clan" even.  We know that Julia escaped the witch trials.  Isaac and his companions were shown fleeing the church in the manga, probably for practicing forbidden arts that would be common among their people, and decided the only place they could be safe and accepted was Dracula's Castle.  

another potential candidate is the witch Drolta Tzuentes in Bloodlines.  again, she's covered completely with robes and a hood and she fights (it appears as if she is Dracula's 2nd form) exactly like a Carrie's cousin, who was at least related to the Belnades family and was originally intended to by Sypha herself brought back from the dead.  we don't know her motive for resurrecting Elizabeth Bartley and Dracula, but possible retribution against what was done to her people could be a part of it and its possible their persecution continued into the 20th century.  she could have become Elizabeth's servant ages ago willingly or might have been sired by her.  there's also a witch in the Rampart stage of The Arcade who fights like Drolta and Carrie's cousin.  perhaps all three are the same person, a vampire Belnades witch servant to Elizabeth Bartley?

another witch is Actrise, but her background, dress, and fighting style (crystal based) seems to be different than the gypsies or Belnades, and her power seems to come directly from Dracula rather than nature or spirits.  the general fighting style of the regular witch enemies in Castlevania also seems to be different, perhaps because they're more of the "Salem" variety.

its interesting how some gypsies chose to side with Dracula and some decided to oppose him.  Sypha recognized that evil forces like Carmilla were behind and at least escalated the worse of their persecutions.  

UPDATE:  Oh, and then there's the Ferryman.  It's interesting to think of him as the ghost of one of these Gypsies, who guides adventurers over the centuries around waterways outside, to, and inside Dracula's Castle.  Again, he dresses in the same hooded cloak that the other gypsies do and is shown to do so in all games he's been in.  So does the "old crone" merchant who appears in Vampire Killer (interesting that she also deals with Hearts as currency) and the horn-playing druid in Castlevania Chronicles.  It's possible that also that the mysterious merchant from Harmony of Dissonance is one of these people or one of their ghosts (he lacks the hood and accepts coins instead of hearts, but so does Julia).