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Re: Hector is a pinhead
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2010, 09:37:47 PM »
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Thanks Jorge, that looks ten million times better already. I don't suppose you could give him a smaller hip while you're at it?  ;D
Hehe, just kidding. This is not the Extreme Makeover show!

..or is it? dun dun DUN!

Anyway, I LOVE Ayami Kojima. Her work is awesome. It's just those proportions... but yeah, little imperfections here and there doesn't bother me. A blatant pinhead does, however :(

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Re: Hector is a pinhead
« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2010, 09:51:16 PM »
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IIRC, during production she drew the original with an even smaller head and was asked to go back and fix it by her production team.  The final version still isn't quite right, but it's markedly improved over the first draft.  This is a common problem, and doesn't really have anything to do with "formal training".  Although her work is quite small in comparison, this happens often in larger works where the artist doesn't take adequate time to step away to make sure the proportions are all correct in correlation to each other.  "Formal training" is a bunch of nonsense.  All you need to do to become a better artist is draw from life, and do a hell of a lot of it.  Looking at Kojima's work, it's obvious she's done a lot of drawing.
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Re: Hector is a pinhead
« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2010, 11:07:35 PM »
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right on Sonic.. hey, nice to see you again here.. what did you think of LoS? I guess post your thoughts in the proper topic, if you feel up to it.

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Re: Hector is a pinhead
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2010, 01:48:33 PM »
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Thanks Jorge, that looks ten million times better already. I don't suppose you could give him a smaller hip while you're at it?  ;D

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He's also got a long-ass torso.  I guess it's to show of that sash/sarong thing he's wearing, but still... too tall of a trunk! :P
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Re: Hector is a pinhead
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2010, 05:30:37 PM »
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Yeah, Hector's body is way out of proportion compaired to the rest of his body. I'm also a self-taught artist, but even then my fist pic was nowhere nearly that out-of-proportion. I only had trouble with hands...too small.

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Re: Hector is a pinhead
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2010, 05:39:03 PM »
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Well Hector looks like he was pretty difficult to draw, I mean he has a lot more detail on him then most of the male characters in Castlevania. Or maybe Miss Kojima was having a bad week when she was doing the art for the game and messed him up without really paying attention. The world may never know for sure.

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Re: Hector is a pinhead
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2010, 10:24:17 PM »
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Or maybe it was Kojima's way of saying: "You think there's a problem with Hectors proportions? LOL! Wait 'til you actually play the game. My art is flawless in comparison"

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Re: Hector is a pinhead
« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2010, 03:21:25 AM »
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This is a very common problem in Kojima's art. She tends to have this pyramid theme going on where the head is very small but the bottom part is wide

I never noticed it in the Hector pic but I have in her trevor pic

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« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2010, 04:03:00 AM »
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Oh man! Trevor's lower legs are way, way, waaaaay out of proper form!  :o Way too dainty for a man who swings around a chain-link whip, hoping from gear to gear and climbing who-knows who many stairs in one lifetime.

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Re: Hector is a pinhead
« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2010, 04:46:02 AM »
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Kojima is the japanese Rob Liefeld

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Re: Hector is a pinhead
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2010, 04:48:01 AM »
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IIRC, during production she drew the original with an even smaller head and was asked to go back and fix it by her production team.  The final version still isn't quite right, but it's markedly improved over the first draft.  This is a common problem, and doesn't really have anything to do with "formal training".  Although her work is quite small in comparison, this happens often in larger works where the artist doesn't take adequate time to step away to make sure the proportions are all correct in correlation to each other.  "Formal training" is a bunch of nonsense.  All you need to do to become a better artist is draw from life, and do a hell of a lot of it.  Looking at Kojima's work, it's obvious she's done a lot of drawing.

Rob Liefeld is also self taught and has proportion problems as well

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Re: Hector is a pinhead
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2010, 12:38:24 PM »
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That's actually quite insane. Never thought about it.
His thighs are SUPER FAT, and then further down the legs are superskinny. And looong. Creeps me out, this.

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Re: Hector is a pinhead
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2010, 05:23:53 PM »
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good thing she started taking drawing classes

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Re: Hector is a pinhead
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2010, 06:16:15 PM »
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I see this sort of thing alot in japanese art. Always thought it was done on purpose.

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Re: Hector is a pinhead
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2010, 10:31:52 PM »
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That's actually quite insane. Never thought about it.
His thighs are SUPER FAT, and then further down the legs are superskinny. And looong. Creeps me out, this.

That art bothered me for years.  I am also bothered by a lot of her Dawn of Sorrow




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