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Re: THIS is how castlevania judgement should have been..!
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2011, 02:39:56 PM »
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The canon battle was actually Alucard vs orb. He never defeated Richter.

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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2011, 03:07:47 PM »
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The canon battle was actually Alucard vs orb. He never defeated Richter.

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Also means Richter never beat Alucard either. The way I see it, it's hard for any of them to really defeat the other.

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« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2011, 03:10:59 PM »
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No, but Trevor did and the Belmont become stronger with every generation for some reason, so yeah.

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« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2011, 03:22:12 PM »
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I know it's been going around that they do... but yea, they never explained it.. it just seemed to have been thrown out there by igarashi, right?
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Re: THIS is how castlevania judgement should have been..!
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2011, 03:45:14 PM »
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The Belmonts are my favourite characters..but well...Alucard did defeat him in the original game as well..and..I don't know...considering that Alucard has been the most powerful in-game character in the series, I don't think anyone can win over him..

has anyone tried Alucard with level 99+2Xring of varda+crissaegrim(or alucard sword)+Alucard shield with shield rod? thats true power(plus he can use all the classical subweapons as well)=p!




Trevor defeated Alucard and, in canon, Alucard never defeated Richter. Alucard destroyed the mind controlling device that was brainwashing Richter.



Edit: Oops. This was already stated by others.

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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2011, 04:21:51 PM »
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Trevor defeated Alucard and, in canon, Alucard never defeated Richter. Alucard destroyed the mind controlling device that was brainwashing Richter.


yes but keep in mind that Alucard is much more powerful in SOTN than in CV III..I mean, he was rather weak in CV III.

(perhaps Trevor was 1/4 Vampiric since it is claimed that Alucard is the father of Trevor, through Sonia Belmont...)

Don't get me wrong think the Belmont clan are the coolest ones and they should be the strongest characters...but fact is that Alucard is superior; judging from how powerful he became with all level ups and items in SOTN..I mean, you can't literary die when pushing his stats to the limit!
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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2011, 05:37:09 PM »
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Brainwashed Richter is still pretty darn tough to kill with out the holy glasses and holy armor

And don't forget the blue Iron shield to block Richter's attacks.

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« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2011, 06:02:08 PM »
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yes but keep in mind that Alucard is much more powerful in SOTN than in CV III..I mean, he was rather weak in CV III.

(perhaps Trevor was 1/4 Vampiric since it is claimed that Alucard is the father of Trevor, through Sonia Belmont...)

Don't get me wrong think the Belmont clan are the coolest ones and they should be the strongest characters...but fact is that Alucard is superior; judging from how powerful he became with all level ups and items in SOTN..I mean, you can't literary die when pushing his stats to the limit!



Come on, man. Of course Alucard appears stronger in SotN than in Dracula's Curse. It's called console limitations/console improvements. And you can't say "Well, this character was level 99 in game X" because there are no "levels" in the games' universes. Alucard may be able to win in an arm wrestling contest, due to his vampiric powers, but never in combat with a Belmont.

Also, the Belmonts are humans who battled and defeated both Dracula and Alucard while in their late teens/early twenties. Even with Dracula's and Alucard's hundreds of years of experience they still could not defeat the Belmonts.

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Re: THIS is how castlevania judgement should have been..!
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2011, 07:49:56 PM »
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Not to mention They have a little something called VAMPIRE KILLER, which kills vampires. :B Alucard is no exception.

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(perhaps Trevor was 1/4 Vampiric since it is claimed that Alucard is the father of Trevor, through Sonia Belmont...)
I strictly recall Legends having been removed from the Castlevania timeline by IGA.
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« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2011, 08:21:35 PM »
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Come on, man. Of course Alucard appears stronger in SotN than in Dracula's Curse. It's called console limitations/console improvements. And you can't say "Well, this character was level 99 in game X" because there are no "levels" in the games' universes. Alucard may be able to win in an arm wrestling contest, due to his vampiric powers, but never in combat with a Belmont.


I don't really understand the armwrestling thing, but..I think one must reflect upon the characters powers within the boundries of game series universe itself and each character's potential strenght developed. And if you would maximise the powers of both Richter and Alucard in sotn and put them in a fight, I don't see any other outcome than Alucard winning..as everyone knows, he was exteremely overpowered in the game, even more than Richter.

And none of us can judge any further than what we witnessed in sotn, since they haven't showed up anymore since then as fighting characters. sotn was the last representation of them, and so their powers are simply those presented in sotn.

Also, the Belmonts are humans who battled and defeated both Dracula and Alucard while in their late teens/early twenties. Even with Dracula's and Alucard's hundreds of years of experience they still could not defeat the Belmonts.

Clearly Alucard's strenght increased drastically since he left his father..it's also mentioned in the recollection CD.

but you know, that is just for the present, nobody knows what Konami will bring up in the future..

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« Reply #25 on: March 07, 2011, 08:25:38 PM »
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Not to mention They have a little something called VAMPIRE KILLER, which kills vampires. :B Alucard is no exception.

Well Alucard is not a full blooded vampire, he's human as well..I doubt that it has the same power against him=p

Also...
I strictly recall Legends having been removed from the Castlevania timeline by IGA.


you're correct, he deleted it from the storyline, according to castlevania wikia.

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« Reply #26 on: March 07, 2011, 09:44:39 PM »
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I prefer Alucard than any Belmont, hell, I even prefer Shanoa than a Belmont any day.

It's incorrect to assume that Alucard or Richter would win a fight between them. Seriously, just because the name of the whip is Vampire Killer it doesn't mean shit. Just because it's a Belmont doesn't mean they HAVE to win.

Anything about this will never be known and such only fan speculation, which does mean nothing.

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« Reply #27 on: March 07, 2011, 10:59:33 PM »
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I prefer Alucard than any Belmont, hell, I even prefer Shanoa than a Belmont any day.

It's incorrect to assume that Alucard or Richter would win a fight between them. Seriously, just because the name of the whip is Vampire Killer it doesn't mean shit. Just because it's a Belmont doesn't mean they HAVE to win.

Anything about this will never be known and such only fan speculation, which does mean nothing.

But it's tradition.

Which is something you can't easily ignore.

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« Reply #28 on: March 07, 2011, 11:01:10 PM »
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Well Alucard did lose to Trevor Belmont in Castlevania 3


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Re: THIS is how castlevania judgement should have been..!
« Reply #29 on: March 07, 2011, 11:13:26 PM »
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Vampires and Dhampires seem to get stronger with age, so he'd be stronger as time passes.
Also, Alucard took it easy on both Sonia and Trevor.  More like a test of their will than an actual "I'm gonna kill you" type of battle.

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