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should've LoS retconned LoI?

Yes, it makes the canon timeline more interesting/controversial.
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No, LoS is better off separate, current timeline is too confusing.
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I don't know, cecil-kain violated my mind with a Dark Priest.
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Re: What if LoS retconned LoI?
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2011, 08:45:57 PM »
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it didnt really explain anything either and of the details it did make, it kinda contradicted previous entries like sotn and cviii anyway

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Re: What if LoS retconned LoI?
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2011, 08:15:21 AM »
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Well Legends just copy/pasted the origin story from Castlevania III so it did at least explain how Dracula became Dracula. As for the condradicting stuff, I think the game was originally supposed to be set 100 years before Trevor or something like that since the 1450 date wasn't given until the 2005 timeline. The game only started condradicting stuff when IGA made Lament and released a story guide in 2001.

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Re: What if LoS retconned LoI?
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2011, 02:25:13 PM »
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it contradicts cviii by being the same thing.
HA

or at least despite being an origin story, it is completely redundant so why use it

or actually i'll just concede defeat because i dont feel like arguing ok
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Re: What if LoS retconned LoI?
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2011, 03:51:42 PM »
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It contradicted CVIII, which said that Trevor was the first Belmont to kill Dracula. Being first meant that there was no other "Belmont" before him that actually "KILLED" Dracula. LoI doesn't contradict this, because Leon never kills Dracula/Mathias.

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Re: What if LoS retconned LoI?
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2011, 04:19:01 PM »
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I'm not saying the game is not condradictive now, but back in the day before the timeline so only had the information presented in the games. And going by that information, the game never condradicted with anything.

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Re: What if LoS retconned LoI?
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2011, 04:28:59 PM »
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I would wonder how Dracula returns in Castlevania 3 if he was killed in Legends.  Legends doesn't explain it, and Castlevania 3 never alludes to a resurrection, so...

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Re: What if LoS retconned LoI?
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2011, 04:37:15 PM »
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You have the same discrepancy between CV3 and CVA because of the exact same issues. Nobody is complaining about that.

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Re: What if LoS retconned LoI?
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2011, 04:42:16 PM »
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Hmm... did Castlevania Adventure say Christopher was the first Belmont to kill Dracula?

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Re: What if LoS retconned LoI?
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2011, 04:48:01 PM »
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Actually, if you read the manual there is no other way to imply it then that Christopher is indeed the first to go up against Dracula.
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Re: What if LoS retconned LoI?
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2011, 05:41:39 PM »
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Can you post this, please?  I'd like to see what you're talking about for myself.

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Re: What if LoS retconned LoI?
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2011, 05:46:06 PM »
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Transylvania, a small country in Europe, is associated even today with a demon's legend. With his powerful evil power, the legacy of Count Dracula has been dreaded by the people. However, no matter how many times Dracula comes back, he never manages to fully
change the world into darkness as he is always put away by Simon, a descendant of the Belmont clan. However, the devil Dracula has
existed long before his first confrontation. Not as the devil Dracula, but as an evil sorcerer. Count Dracula was a fanatical demon worshipper, who built a dark castle at the outskirts of Transylvania and conducted evil rituals every night. He has summoned several demons from the other world to serve him and he himself has been trying to get eternal life by becoming a demon king possesing evil powers. With each day, Count Dracula's evil powers became more frigtening, as he spread fear and terror to the people of the village. Until one day, a man stood up. It was Christopher, an ancestor of the Belmont family. Christopher rushed to the dark castle. Many demons and traps layed out are waiting for him at the castle. Will he be able to defeat the transformed devil, Count Dracula, as expected?

Here it is. It's in the bold text.   

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Re: What if LoS retconned LoI?
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2011, 05:49:59 PM »
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You're a silly little woman.  That text itself says that, "No matter how many times Dracula comes back...".  That must mean that someone's been killing him : p

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Re: What if LoS retconned LoI?
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2011, 05:52:17 PM »
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You're kind off taking that particular sentence out of context.  The manual begins with telling about the Dracula legend and then skips back to the past.     

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Re: What if LoS retconned LoI?
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2011, 05:56:02 PM »
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Oh, I see what you're saying.  That still doesn't explicitly say that Christopher was the first Belmont to battle and kill Dracula.  There's nothing really binding in there to where there is no room to maneuver. 

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Re: What if LoS retconned LoI?
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2011, 05:57:07 PM »
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Alright, that doesn't matter since that was going to be my next point about Castlevania III and Legends anyway.  :)   

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