Topic: Feelings towards Iga's downplaying of past Belmonts...

[Thomas Belmont]

In Reply To #1

According to someone, and I'm replaying CV3 to check out. Trevor didn't beat Alucard, atleast notreally. Since Alucard was just testing Trevor.

What do you mean his most powerful move? Hydro Storm? I guess I can get where you're coming at. But no doubt Alucard is a hell of a powerhouse.

You were misinformed. Alucard stopped the battle saying " I can't believe you beat me!" in Castlevania 3. And yeah, I was referring to Richter's Hydro Storm. In the PSP version of Sotn, Richter screams out "...My most powerful attack..." and it does such little damage it's ridiculous. However,I don't know if he said that in the original Japan version and I don't recall him saying that in the American Playstation version though. And not to get off topic, but wouldn't you think Grand Cross would be the most powerful attack? The cross is normally the most powerful sub weapon in each game.

And yes, Alucard is strong, but he shouldn't be portrayed as that strong, especially when the attack harmed the hell out of his father.

[Kale]

That can't be right, as its trying to tie into Bram Stoker's Dracula right? Which means he got owned by some guy witha stake >.> There goes Belmonts are the only ones who can kill Dracula.

Sides, if you want main characters that can obliterate the enem, you shold watch Dragon ball Z, and pretend the enemies are vampires.

I still see no reason Alucard should fear anyone, Dracula sure as heck doesn't. And hes lost lots of times. And Alucard should be portrayed as the stronger being of the two, Dracula. Atleast against Belmonts, hes half human. That means hes not as susceptable to the holy powers that the Belmonts has. Thats the best thign about being a dhampir, the best of both worlds.

[Azmodan]

You can't deny the fact that Richter has been pissed on quite a few times now. And why wouldn't Alucard fear Richter, or any Belmont for that matter? They're Belmonts, the world's greatest vampire hunters. And Julius doesn't actually lose to Soma.

[PFG9000]

You know, it's just a video game.

[Kale]

well, technically its a video game series >.>

[Cypress]

That can't be right, as its trying to tie into Bram Stoker's Dracula right? Which means he got owned by some guy witha stake >.> There goes Belmonts are the only ones who can kill Dracula.

Sides, if you want main characters that can obliterate the enem, you shold watch Dragon ball Z, and pretend the enemies are vampires.

I still see no reason Alucard should fear anyone, Dracula sure as heck doesn't. And hes lost lots of times. And Alucard should be portrayed as the stronger being of the two, Dracula. Atleast against Belmonts, hes half human. That means hes not as susceptable to the holy powers that the Belmonts has. Thats the best thign about being a dhampir, the best of both worlds.

They are trying to tie in with Stoker's book? They are really failing at that. And it was a combination of a slash to the throat by Harker and a bowie knife in the heart by Morris that killed Dracula, not a stake.

[Gunlord]

In Reply To #21

CV: Bloodlines was the game that tried to tie in to Stoker's dracula, so don't go blaming IGA for that, at least.

[CVfan13]

You know, it's just a video game.

Excactly. But as for what you've said, Thomas Belmont, about Alucard fearing Richter, he shouldn't fear anything. He's an immortal half vampire and the son of Dracula. If anything, Richter should fear him.

[le052383]

That's not what I heard. I heard Iga became the main director not too long into the game development, since the original one had to quit. And that it was his idea to include Alucard since cv3's his favorite and Al could be its only alive remaining character.

What was the game before his takeover it's not known. Perhaps a port of Bloodletting.

That is what I have read on this forum several months ago in which that IGA was assisting director or whatever.

[mgfcortez]

first off richter is been under shaft's control so richter isn't really using his holy powers for good.
so who's to say they were working at full power?
just the way i think about it holy power won't work to do evil ends
but thats just imo not part of the story really.lol

but alucard being a dhampir theres no way holy powers will hurt him like his father.
sure you can hit the rain storm in sotn and kill drac easy.
but alucard is half human not going to hurt him as bad  
and who's to say richter really lost?
shaft was controlling him so richter wasn't really fighting kind of like in por with the WM fight.
i don't like iga story telling in alot of ways like making bemonts weaker.
cod was a good game it reminded me of a half ass 3d sotn
but what can you do iga is making the games all you can do is deal with it

[le052383]

Before someone says something about "How come holy water and other religious items hurts humans like the battle between Maria (I never used holy water against her, so I don't know if this is true) and Alucard?

[Baigan]

In Reply To #16

It is a commonly held logical assumption that he was tesing him. As an opponent of Dracula, he would not kill Dracula's top rival. Although, it is possible he did not know he was facing Trevor Belmont, or who that was. Either way, he doesn't halt the battle, but is completely defeated and falls to the floor.

It has always been my assumption that Alucard's power, like Dracula's, increases over time, as Alucard's power is begotten of Dracula.

Here are some more considerations about Hydro Storm. It actually is pretty potent at lower levels, and I believe it may be moreso at the midway point when Richter starts trying harder. It is all a matter of what "level" Alucard is at, or what armor he is wearing. What armor does Dracula wear? Who knows. In my experience, Hydro Storm is not all that weak.

And so what if Alucard can take more pain? Dracula has many variations, and the ways of his power are mysterious. Hydro Storm wouldn't completely annihilate end-game Dracula in SotN. That's a fairer comparison as it was the same resurrection.

Alucard is kind of badass. If he did fear Richter, he wouldn't show it, but as has been said, there is no reason to assume he should. If anyone should be fearful of Belmont, it is Hector, and in fact, in the first encounter with him, Trevor is nearly invincible against him.

As for tying Castlevania to Stoker's, we shouldn't assume the connection goes any further than explicitly stated. They do not fit. Most obviously, where is Dracula's army in Stoker's? And yeah, Dracula got owned in Stoker's, but only because it was daytime and he was killed in his sleep. How cheap. At least he can exist in sunlight.

[Thomas Belmont]

In Reply To #16

It is a commonly held logical assumption that he was tesing him. As an opponent of Dracula, he would not kill Dracula's top rival. Although, it is possible he did not know he was facing Trevor Belmont, or who that was. Either way, he doesn't halt the battle, but is completely defeated and falls to the floor.

Why would it be a logical assumption to think that Alucard was only testing Trevor when it was clearly stated by Alucard himself that he was under a spell cast by his father?

[Baigan]

In Reply To #28

I don't think that is the case, but it doesn't affect your main point, because I agree Trevor could have beaten him either way.

[Steve]

That can't be right, as its trying to tie into Bram Stoker's Dracula right? Which means he got owned by some guy witha stake >.> There goes Belmonts are the only ones who can kill Dracula.

Nope.  The Castlevania continuity only makes references to Stoker's novel; it doesn't attempt to follow it.  For example, in the book, Quincey Morris helped to kill Dracula by stabbing him with a Bowie knife, whereas in the account of the games, he was a close relative of the Belmonts who slew Dracula with the Vampire Killer.