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Re: Why the Morris Family? A Look at the Original Dracula Novel
« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2011, 12:49:02 AM »
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Re: Why the Morris Family? A Look at the Original Dracula Novel
« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2011, 05:05:38 AM »
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I always thought that linking of Bram Stoker's novel with CV (or part of the novel or whatever) was tenuous. Why bother? I mean sure, it's a definitive piece of vampire literature, but is that the only reason? I just don't see the point of including it when it didn't really fit with CV in the first place (aside from having Dracula and then having him killed by a human), and its inclusion doesn't significantly enhance the franchise lore. It's not some horrible mistake that they made or anything, but it just always seemed kind of nonsensical and dumb to me.
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Re: Why the Morris Family? A Look at the Original Dracula Novel
« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2011, 05:59:44 AM »
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Personally I have to thank Konami for making Bloodlines. I probably would've been oblivious to Bram Stoker's Dracula if the game had never been made. For all it's flaws it holds a special place in my heart and I'm glad they made it.

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Re: Why the Morris Family? A Look at the Original Dracula Novel
« Reply #33 on: April 09, 2011, 06:16:03 AM »
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Don't get me wrong...I love Bloodlines (probably one of my favorites of the series, actually), it's just that I could take or leave the whole Bram Stoker connection. I dunno.

I never really knew about the connection with the novel until many years later, though. I had first heard of the novel from the 1992 movie (well, actually some time after the movie). I remember a lot of people talking about that one when it came out.
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Re: Why the Morris Family? A Look at the Original Dracula Novel
« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2011, 06:58:20 AM »
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No, it's not really, no more than demanding proof that it is part of the timeline.   

You're only making an unlogical assumtion which may sound logical to you but there is no proof while there is proof that you're most likely wrong i.e the logic that when something is not listed on a timeline it is not part of that timeline. Bram Stoker's Dracula is not noted on the timeline, hence it is not part of it.

On top of that you're also saying that you're right because there is no confirmation that proves the contrary.   

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Re: Why the Morris Family? A Look at the Original Dracula Novel
« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2011, 01:33:37 PM »
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Connecting Quincey to the Belmonts was just convenient for Konami. Very little is said about him in Bram Stoker's novel other than the fact he's originally from Texas and was Lucy's lover. So that makes him quite a mysterious character, compared to Jonathan, Seward, and Van Helsing who have greater roles in the book.

I actually wrote a fanfiction about this once, long ago, connecting the novel to Castlevania. It's quite unfinished, and more related to the novel than to CV, but if anyone wants a link be my guest.  :P
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Re: Why the Morris Family? A Look at the Original Dracula Novel
« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2011, 03:10:57 PM »
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The first time I tried reading Dracula I got set on fire.  The second time was about eleven years later, but nothing bad happened.

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Re: Why the Morris Family? A Look at the Original Dracula Novel
« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2011, 06:21:57 PM »
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Very little is said about him in Bram Stoker's novel other than the fact he's originally from Texas and was Lucy's lover.

And that he's laconic. I think he's described as such about 1500 times throughout the book.  ;D
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Re: Why the Morris Family? A Look at the Original Dracula Novel
« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2011, 07:13:03 PM »
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Demanding prove of the contrary is kind off a cop-out argument.
That's what it takes for something to become a natural law in science you know? Not being able to prove the contrary
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Re: Why the Morris Family? A Look at the Original Dracula Novel
« Reply #39 on: April 09, 2011, 08:36:24 PM »
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Too bad the Castlevania timeline isn't science.

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Re: Why the Morris Family? A Look at the Original Dracula Novel
« Reply #40 on: April 09, 2011, 08:39:19 PM »
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Too bad the Castlevania timeline isn't science.
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Re: Why the Morris Family? A Look at the Original Dracula Novel
« Reply #41 on: April 09, 2011, 09:36:53 PM »
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If you claim something the burden of proof is on you. Saying you are right because it can't be proven is never proof. I don't know why that is so difficult to grasp at. I'm not going into a discussion about science. We're talking about a book here.

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Re: Why the Morris Family? A Look at the Original Dracula Novel
« Reply #42 on: April 09, 2011, 10:03:14 PM »
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Personally I have to thank Konami for making Bloodlines. I probably would've been oblivious to Bram Stoker's Dracula if the game had never been made. For all it's flaws it holds a special place in my heart and I'm glad they made it.

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Agreed it was an excellent game, good music both characters were solid, and everything else about it was great. I like to think of the inclusion of Quincy as just an ode to a great book and if it was included would it delude the time any worse than it already is? I mean honestly Dracula isn't clearly bound to reappearing every one hundred years anymore so throwing him in wouldnt really do any damage.

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Re: Why the Morris Family? A Look at the Original Dracula Novel
« Reply #43 on: April 10, 2011, 12:05:22 AM »
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Maybe we should try to throw the Bram Stoker's Dracula video game (based on the film) into the timeline instead of the book. Then again, Quincey isn't even in the game. The game is so obviously inspired from Castlevania though. Konami should just go and make a game based on the book and actually make it fit into the Castlevania timeline.

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Re: Why the Morris Family? A Look at the Original Dracula Novel
« Reply #44 on: April 10, 2011, 02:50:09 AM »
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Maybe we should try to throw the Bram Stoker's Dracula video game (based on the film) into the timeline instead of the book. Then again, Quincey isn't even in the game. The game is so obviously inspired from Castlevania though. Konami should just go and make a game based on the book and actually make it fit into the Castlevania timeline.

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