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Where do you think the Clock Tower is definatively located?

Imediatley to the right of the Keep?
1 (8.3%)
To the right of the Keep, but with the Armory or other areas between?
2 (16.7%)
In a separate tower?
3 (25%)
In the Keep and also a separate tower?
2 (16.7%)
Other, please describe in posts?
4 (33.3%)

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Clock Tower Location?
« on: April 28, 2011, 03:30:56 AM »
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The location of the Clock Tower keeps changing and I was wondering what the fan consensus was to a determinate location?

I. Imediatley to the right of the Keep? (CI NES)
II. To the right of the Keep, but with the Armory or other areas between? (RoB)
III. In a separate tower? (Chronicles, SCIV sort of)
IV. The thought of two Clock Towers, One to the right of the Keep and also one being a separate tower? (CIII NES, SotN)
V. Other area of the castle (SCIV sort of)

Also, interject with titles not mentioned above.  Thanks guys!
« Last Edit: April 28, 2011, 03:42:22 AM by HeliosCentaur »

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Re: Clock Tower Location?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2011, 03:47:45 AM »
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I think it depends on how the castle reforms each time Dracula rises and so it's never the same
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Re: Clock Tower Location?
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2011, 03:48:35 AM »
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Man it's hard to decide without pictures >_<

but I say it's.. immediately to the right of the Keep? Being an extension of the Creature of Chaos it changes all the time amirite?

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Re: Clock Tower Location?
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2011, 03:57:50 AM »
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The Clock tower just keeps on changing locations either within the castle or just on the outskirts of the castle walls. Bit it's interesting to note that CV3 had two clock towers.

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Re: Clock Tower Location?
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2011, 04:21:02 AM »
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It's hard to say seeing how the castle is a creature of Chaos and thus is different everytime it is revived.  Though the clocktower is usually right next to and connected to the keep.  All I care is that it is apart of the castle in that it is within the castle's boundry and is not a free standing structure just standing not being connected to anything.  It needs to be directly connected to the castle.  It's actual location is irrelevant.  The keep and the clocktower could be on opposite ends of the castle for all I care.
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Re: Clock Tower Location?
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2011, 04:49:34 AM »
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Though the clocktower is usually right next to and connected to the keep.
I think it's only directly beside the keep in CV1, any other titles?

 All I care is that it is apart of the castle in that it is within the castle's boundry and is not a free standing structure just standing not being connected to anything.
Free standing, like in CV3?

Bit it's interesting to note that CV3 had two clock towers.
I thought so too and think the tower in the background of SotN is the same one from CV3 in which you meet Grant, thoughts?

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Re: Clock Tower Location?
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2011, 01:33:42 PM »
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There are two clock towers in some games, that's probably what's messing you up.

CV1. Clock Tower is the tower the is holding up the keep.

Haunted Castle: The Clock tower is in the castle, but it is not holding up the keep like in cv1.

CV2. all in ruins, there are no towers.

CV3. One Clock Tower outside of town with a bridge that leads to the Castle.  Bridge gets destroyed when you save Grant.  2nd Clock Tower is the one holding up the keep, and its largest chamber is the pendulums room.

CV4. Clock Tower is far from the keep and you need to cross a bridge to get to the keep's tower.  Like in CV3, that bridge gets destroyed but unlike cv3, it breaks as you cross it.

CVX68000. Clock tower is, like cv4, far from the keep and you need to cross a bridge.  This is actually very very similar to CV4.

CVA. None

CVA2:BR. None

CVL: Clock Tower is in the castle, but it's not close to the keep, like in CV4 and X68000.

Rondo: Clock Tower is in the castle, an amalgamation of CV1's location and CV3's location.  You cross a bridge (that crumbles) to get to the tower this time, and the bridge is like CV1's.  The Clock Tower's layout is similar to CV1's as well, only with a more vertical mode in mind.  Like CV3 though, there's a large pendulums room that you use to get to the keep... but not before going to the Ceremonial Room with the Chalize and fighting a boss.

CVSotN: Layout it exactly like Rondo of Blood.  The clock tower in the background of the keep, I guess, is the clock tower you just traversed, but that implies that the pendulums room is in face a very wide and long bridge area that leads to yet another tower where the ceremonial room is, which is the tower that holds up the keep...
...which means the SotN clock tower you see should have had a long bridge to the foreground instead of being all on its own the way it is.  I guess they couldn't make it or just put it up by itself 'cuz it looks cooler.  Or SotN has two clock towers and one you never cross, but that's just whacky.

DraculaXX: Like CV3's first clock tower, this one seems to be far from the castle, across a bridge.  Why one would go all the way out there is beyond me.  Perhaps searching for Death or Annette?

CotM: Machine Tower, but this is not Dracula's Castle (it's Carmilla's).  It stands on its own on the left side of the castle.  There is a connecting pathway between the three main towers though (Machine Tower, Observation Tower, and Chapel Tower), so at least this map matches the map's artwork.

Bloodlines: Just ruins in Dracula's Castle, no clock tower.  The Munitions Factory is similar but it's very faaaaaaaaaaar.

CV64/LoD.  The Clock Tower is the tower that is holding up not just the keep, but two other chambers (though the keep appears to be one large tower, not a floating room, so it's more like SotN, I guess.  You exit the clock tower from one side (or from the clock's hands, if you're playing LoD) to the Keep's staircase.  The Clock Tower's location is clearly defined, as it is in the center of four tall towers (but not as tall as it), on top of which you fight Death/Actrise/Ortega (the four towers appear to be the Tower of Execution, the Tower of Sorcery, The Tower of Ruins, and The Tower of Art (though the last two could be the Tower of Duels or the Tower of Science, but I don't think so because they should be lower down in the castle).  While you battle on the top of these towers you can see the Clock Tower and the iconic staircase leading up, no matter what tower you're battling on.  There is a bridge under the Clock tower, which leads to the Room of Clocks, which connects all of the towers together.

HoD: Clock Tower is in the castle, on the far right, somewhat like CV3's clock tower (but not really).  The keep this time is held by the Chapel, and the clock tower connects to the chapel.  The clock tower you see in the distance in the Keep should have had a bridge leading up to some more tower structures... but it doesn't.  Like SotN.

Aria: This is the most interesting one because it's somewhat correct in its location with respect to everything else.  When you're in the Clock Tower, you're on the right side of the map but the clock tower and the chapel have switched sides from Harmony's locations.  The Clock is now the closest to the Keep, but the keep is held by its own tower.  If you recall, there is a bridge that leads from the clock tower to the Top Floor (in the map), When you're at the Keep part of the Top Floor (under the staircase), you can actually see the bridge that connects the Top Floor to the Clock Tower.

Dawn: It's not Dracula's Castle, but rather Celia's (The cult's) castle.  The Clock Tower connects to the Pinnacle.  The 'keep' is held up by a tower in the Pinnacle, and you can see the Clock Tower in the distance.  It's mostly correct.

Portrait: The "Tower of Death" is the Clock Tower.  Its location is similar to that of CV3 and Rondo, but the Tower of Death stands alone, with no real connecting bridge to the Master's Keep (though the water tower has access... to the bottom... but so does the other side of the tower so it's not really a bridge like on games where it's on the top).  This is possibly because the Keep is meant to be isolated.
When you are in the Keep, you see the Clock Tower, which makes sense, I guess.  Interestingly enough, in the background of the Keep, the clock tower has numerous connecting bridges to the tower next to it, even though there's no tower in the map.

Ecclesia: The Mechanical Tower is on the right side, like the Tower of Death and Rondo/CV3/etc. clock tower.  There are no real connector hallways from the top of the tower to the Keep, though halfway up the tower there is one lone hallway that goes left to the center of the castle, the Forsaken Cloister.  It's too low to be a bridge though, and certainly wouldn't show up in view from the Keep.  What does show up, though, and very large and imposing, is the Mechanical Tower in the background, a large square giant tower.

Lament: ????
Curse: ????
OoS: No tower
LoS: There is a clock tower, and it is in the castle, and once you get past it you reach the keep, sort of.
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Re: Clock Tower Location?
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2011, 01:52:04 PM »
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Curse of Darkness has the Eneomaos Machine Tower, which is a completely other tower since it is far from Dracula's Castle, much like in CVIII.

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Re: Clock Tower Location?
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2011, 04:33:30 PM »
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LoI has no definable Clocktower, but throughout the Laboratory area you can see the gears held within the walls of specific rooms.

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Re: Clock Tower Location?
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2011, 06:21:16 PM »
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Next to the Keep. Whether it's to the right or left depends on the camera angle!

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Re: Clock Tower Location?
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2011, 10:54:47 PM »
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oops, i chose a wrong one :P
in a separate tower in my point of view.

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Re: Clock Tower Location?
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2011, 01:01:39 AM »
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oops, i chose a wrong one :P
in a separate tower in my point of view.
In a separate tower there can be more vertical rooms giving it a true tower feel.

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Re: Clock Tower Location?
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2011, 06:02:16 PM »
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It's my understanding that in all the games that take place in the real Dracula's Castle, as per SotN, everything including the Clock Tower is where ever Castlevania/Dracula feels like it.
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