Topic: The official "Finding Castlevania in Lords of Shadow" thread....

[Flame]

it felt like i was climbing one of those big Skele-Dragons during the Dracholich Titan battle.  Sure, its got more parts than just the spine and head, but that's where you were most of the time.

You were climbing a big Skele-Dragon. That's what a Dracolich is.

[Rychord]

I think it was a waste that the necromancer model was NOT used for the character of Death.  I thought it was a brilliant design. All it needed was a scythe in hand.

Ah, see I thought that The Necromancer WAS Death, especially since it's the next to last battle, and the fact that his weapon pretty much looks like a stylized scythe to me. But I guess it makes more sense that Zobek is Death, since he is the Lord of the Dead after all. That was actually the biggest gripe I had with the ending, that Zobek finally (predictably) exposes himself as the final lord and gets burnt to a crisp without the player getting a chance to fight him first.

[Reinhart77]

i'm sure we'll get a chance to fry him sometime.

[crisis]

Ah, see I thought that The Necromancer WAS Death, especially since it's the next to last battle, and the fact that his weapon pretty much looks like a stylized scythe to me.

Well, actoolee, technicly the necromancer can be considered "Death" too since they are all just an extension of Zobek, who is the "Lord of the Necromancers/Dead." Their character descriptions say that they give up their bodies/souls to become Necromancers, Zobek's puppets so to speak. It's a completely new spin on the "grim reaper" character.

It just bugs me that they made him an adversary to Dracula, or so it seems.

[Inccubus]

I actually wrote a CV plot way back in the day where Death was actually just using Drac to gather souls for him to be 'rebirth'-ed into the world as a 'living god'. So I don't entirely dislike the idea of them being adversaries. What I hope will happen in the future is for Gabeula to whoop Zobek and get his revenge on 'Death' by enslaving him.

[Munchy]

For what it's worth, I remember people asking Cox on twitter whether the Necromancer was Death, and his response was that "we hadn't seen Death by any means".

[Renonsgoods]

I think that, despite what the epilogue seems to imply, Zobek/Death and Gabe/Drac will come to be on the same team sometime during the centuries that follow the game's ending.  It just seems that at the latter part of the millenium they will go their separate ways...not meeting again until the scene in LoS' epilogue.  It does make me curious as to what exactly will transpire to bring them together, what kind of partnership they will have, and ultimately...what leads to them parting ways.  And yes, I AM anxious to see Zobek lay down his more human side to unleash the Reaper within.

[Alutwon]

For what it's worth, I remember people asking Cox on twitter whether the Necromancer was Death, and his response was that "we hadn't seen Death by any means".

I really think Dracula is going to create the Death we know.

[crisis]

sO there will be multiple Deaths in this continuity?

[Flame]

Well LoS seems to follow the idea of the necromancers and reapers we see are all physical manifestations of the force we call "death".

Which i think is actually a petty neat concept. If anything, Zobek being the lord of the dead and Dracula's "death" works out pretty well the way i see it.

Never quite understood why Death would hang out with Dracula instead of doing his job. But having the father of all Necromancers who "might as well be Death himself" as his right hand man, makes much more sense.

[Profbeanburrito]

I really think Dracula is going to create the Death we know.

I think that Death will still be Zobek but maybe Gabriel will control him using the Mask, making him more like the servant of Dracula in previous games

[Chernabogue]

I think that Death will still be Zobek but maybe Gabriel will control him using the Mask, making him more like the servant of Dracula in previous games

Yes. Plus Gabriel wants to take revenge on Zobek who betrayed him.

[Reinhart77]

not that the game needs any more plot devices, but there's always a chance they'll introduce the Crimson Stone.

[Nagumo]

Probably the stone that Gabriel hurts his toe on, in a post-credit sequence.

ZOMG 

[Flame]

not that the game needs any more plot devices, but there's always a chance they'll introduce the Crimson Stone.

Dont see how. Not in the way LoI uses it on Death. Zobek isnt bound to any such thing, I dont see WHy a stone would make him serve Dracula like it does in LoI. Not unless they completely re-imagine it and make it do something completely different.