Topic: Why did they take out Sonia from the series

[Renonsgoods]

Sure, why not. People who deal in either extremes are awful.

Legends is a piece of shit cash-in of a video game

Indeed.  Extreme opinions are very ugly...

[bucky]

To make a long story short: the game's story didn't fit with the rest of the (then) established timeline and literally contradicted other games in the series. No one has ever got around to putting her back in the series, via maybe a new storyline so she could fit properly.

Wait, can someone explain why exactly the first Legends couldn't fit into the timeline? As I recall, the only thing that didn't make sense about it (if you want to take everything as purposeful and planned) was Alucard's hair length. It may have contradicted that CV3 was the earliest game in the timeline (at the time), but that's not a big deal of course. It seemed to fit well into the CV1 / CV2 / CV3 / Rondo of Blood / SotN universe, which I consider to be the most important titles in establishing what the core, basic story "should" be.

[Claimh Solais]

Wait, can someone explain why exactly the first Legends couldn't fit into the timeline? As I recall, the only thing that didn't make sense about it (if you want to take everything as purposeful and planned) was Alucard's hair length. It may have contradicted that CV3 was the earliest game in the timeline (at the time), but that's not a big deal of course. It seemed to fit well into the CV1 / CV2 / CV3 / Rondo of Blood / SotN universe, which I consider to be the most important titles in establishing what the core, basic story "should" be.

Trevor was always talked about as being the first man to defeat Dracula. And also there's the fact that due to Legends, the Belmont family would forever be related to the evil Count.

[Koutei]

Akumajo Dracula Japanese official site
http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/dracula/product/index.html

The first female protagonist in series
She fights by using a new system glyph.


An official site is called Shanoa is the first female protagonist in the series.
LOL

[Claimh Solais]

Akumajo Dracula Japanese official site
http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/dracula/product/index.html

The first female protagonist in series
She fights by using a new system glyph.


An official site is called Shanoa is the first female protagonist in the series.
LOL

I guess they meant canonical.

[uzo]

The game was canned mainly due to IGA. It did not "fit" with "his" personal view of Castlevania.

Yup, cause IGA totally produced CVIII and that game was a product of his personal view of Castlevania.

[Renonsgoods]

Where is it expressed that Trevor was the first to defeat Dracula?

[Claimh Solais]

Where is it expressed that Trevor was the first to defeat Dracula?

In like, every official guide.

[Renonsgoods]

In like, every official guide.

I don't care about guides.  Any director in control of the franchise can put any spin they want on any of the previous games by writing something in one of these publications.  Same goes for one of these "official" websites.  These things can be changed with the times...the games themselves cannot.

I want to know in what games is it explicitly stated that Trevor was the first?  Screen caps or it didn't happen.

[Claimh Solais]

I don't care about guides.  Any director in control of the franchise can put any spin they want on any of the previous games by writing something in one of these publications.  Same goes for one of these "official" websites.  These things can be changed with the times...the games themselves cannot.

I want to know in what games is it explicitly stated that Trevor was the first?  Screen caps or it didn't happen.

Okay, you got me there. I believe IGA said it himself, but I'm going off of what I heard people talking about.

[Nagumo]

The reasons as far as I know are, IGA didn't like the game, he didn't like the idea of a female protagonist in that time period, and he wanted to do a better origin story during the time of the Crusades but Legends made that impossible by firmly establishing Sonia is the first vampire hunter of the family. People who say the game was removed because of condradictions don't know what they are talking about.         

[Munchy]

I remember IGA saying something about a female warrior not being historically accurate for the time. Neither were clock towers, Frankenstein monsters, electricity, or men fighting Satanist factions with a transforming whip, or Dracula being an evil sorcerer, but Konami works in mysterious ways.

Shame, cuz Sonia was pretty hot. The story for Resurrection (Dreamcast one) was god awful, but dammit, I wish that game had come out anyway.

I wouldn't mind something like a Legends Rebirth, but the chances of that happening are lower than nonexistent. Legends wasn't really the best game, and the relationship with Alucard was pretty hokey, not to mention it wasn't much of an origin story at all outside of "Dracula was a pretty bad dude who used lots of magic and stuff". Even so, it had some amazingly complex music that I wish newer games would pay tribute to, and a female Belmont was a cool idea that should be revisited. But NOOOO, women are always spellcasters with lighting-fire-ice shit, or merely killed by something to make a dramatic revenge plot occur.

[GummiCandyful]

Man, has it been ages since I last logged on. But, anyway:

But NOOOO, women are always spellcasters with lighting-fire-ice shit, or merely killed by something to make a dramatic revenge plot occur.

This is exactly the reason why I greatly dislike the Belnades clan; all of them are women, whereas the Belmonts are always born a man. And if one just so happens to be a female, she either gets thrown out of Canon, or already has an older brother, ensuring that she can't use the whip.

I'm well aware Order of Shadows isn't IGA's game, but still. A female Blemont lead should at least be revisited, though I highly doubt it.

[crisis]

A female Belmont would just be Shanoa with a whip anyway.

[Claimh Solais]

The reasons as far as I know are, IGA didn't like the game, he didn't like the idea of a female protagonist in that time period, and he wanted to do a better origin story during the time of the Crusades but Legends made that impossible by firmly establishing Sonia is the first vampire hunter of the family. People who say the game was removed because of condradictions don't know what they are talking about.         

What are you talking about? It had both to do with your point and to do with contradictions. Your point makes a lot of sense, but without the contradiction, that means Drac is Trev's grand-daddy.