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Re: I'm confused about this...
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2011, 08:21:44 AM »
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You know I found a spritesheet of Alucard from SoTN with black hair? thought that was interesting.

Serio made that. ^.^ I have it. Rather well done.

I think the only hints to them running about of time was with SoTN. It had Richter's new outfit, a handful of unused moves (though I'm glad they didn't use them in actuality), and there's how Richter was supposed to have a different color palette. And despite SoTN only having at most 15 people in the development team, it still had more new graphics than any of the DS titles which had larger teams.

So it's all very uh. They're probably cutting corners with the budget most likely.
There was actually a preliminary design for Alucard with black hair in the Ayami Kojima artbook released last year. But it was a totally different outfit too, so I guess you probably saw a re-color. I'm betting that Jorge probably even made it lol.

I wasn't exactly serious about the time comment, but you got a point. The game was extremely rushed out by Konami, and we got IGA to vouch for that. Richter was supposed to have a sprite sheet for his SotN outfit. It was supposed to be like the Saturn version, where you could choose outfits once you unlock him. But they took the easy route (that many of us take) and drew the new moves on his Rondo outfit first, which makes sense. But again, time constraints. IGA even said that he didn't even know the game was being localized, so rushing is also what caused the voice acting problem in the original version (but honestly, I liked them). And by the way, the only missing move that was worthwhile was the spin kick, which they later added into PoR.
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Re: I'm confused about this...
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2011, 11:41:24 AM »
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How is Richter over-used? I've heard tons of people on forums like GameFAQs and stuff say this constantly, but I don't feel the need to ask there because I may be endlessly trolled in return. So I ask here.

How is he overused? (this doesn't count homebrews, GameFAQs really only talks about the official games... and bewbs.) Especially when you compare him to Alucard.

Richter appeared in:
Rondo of Blood/DXC
Symphony of the Night/Nocturne In the Moonlight
Portrait of Ruin
Harmony of Despair

Alucard appeared in:
Kid Dracula (sort of...)
Dracula's Curse
Symphony of the Night/Nocturne In the Moonlight
Aria of Sorrow
Dawn of Sorrow
Judgment
Harmony of Despair
As well as got his own trailer for a cancelled game, hurr durr.

Or I could be a d-bag and compare Richter to Dracula. >.>

But yeah, how is Richter overused? Can someone explain that to me?

They're just giving the incomplete sentence, that's all.
Richter is overused by the fans
but not all the fans, just the ones that say he's overused, because they did it lol. Alucard is far more used than this guy, he's one game away from being a prostitute.

Richter's only appearance as a main character is in RoB, in the other games he is whether a bonus, remaked or just an enemy. I would hardly call that overuse :P

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Re: I'm confused about this...
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2011, 11:18:25 PM »
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They're just giving the incomplete sentence, that's all.
Richter is overused by the fans
but not all the fans, just the ones that say he's overused, because they did it lol. Alucard is far more used than this guy, he's one game away from being a prostitute.

Richter's only appearance as a main character is in RoB, in the other games he is whether a bonus, remaked or just an enemy. I would hardly call that overuse :P
It is true that Alucard is used more than Richter, but unlike Richter, Alucard always contributes to the story and is only playable in three games.
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Re: I'm confused about this...
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2011, 12:21:21 AM »
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It is true that Alucard is used more than Richter, but unlike Richter, Alucard always contributes to the story and is only playable in three games.

CV3, SotN, DoS, Judgment, HD.

Five by my count. :P
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Re: I'm confused about this...
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2011, 03:09:57 AM »
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CV3, SotN, DoS, Judgment, HD.

Five by my count. :P
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Re: I'm confused about this...
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2011, 03:12:24 AM »
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If you haven't forgot Judgment and "HD", please do it now  :P

Unfortunately for you, I enjoy the hell out of those two games. ^.^
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Re: I'm confused about this...
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2011, 01:39:30 PM »
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Simon is the only Belmont ever needed.

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They did not want to draw new sprites of the Bloodlines heroes.  And they give you some weird plot device like "Whip's Memory" to throw you off the scent that you're being ripped off.

And yeah it's a ripoff that we get Richter/Maria mode, and not John/Eric mode, for the same reason.

Lastly, he's got a ridiculous following who continuously clings on to one line in the USA SotN booklet, some crap about being the strongest because 'Belmonts get stronger down the line' or some crap (which, by logic, would make Julius the most badass strongest, best Belmont, even though genetics doesn't work that way).

Also, Simon & Trevor are cooler, imo. :P :P :P

100% agreed.


Someone needs to make the appropriate DoS sprites with the Arikado guise....

I second that!! That would be a great hack for DoS!


It was an edit

http://cvimages.meeka.net/take2.php/character%20related/alucard/SotN_Alucard_black_hair_edit.png?action=big&size=original&fromthumbnail=true

That actually looks way more bad-ass than the usual color. =P


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Re: I'm confused about this...
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2011, 02:26:54 PM »
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Yeah that's definitely one of Serio's sprite projects.  I don't think I helped at all with it aside from some suggestions done on IRC (if even that).

Also, you cannot count multi-player games or fighting games like CVHD or Judgment as 'Alucard' titles.  Sorry, but that's just silly, as you can play as anyone in those games.  You've got 15 characters in Judgment and you've got a slew of 'em in Harmony of Despair.

Really, the true "Alucard" games are CV3, SotN, and DoS.  In every one of those games, Alucard's role in the game is explained and makes sense.

As for Richter:
-Rondo/DXX is his game.  His remake in DXC also counts as his game.
-There was NO NEED for a Richter mode story-wise, in SotN.  He's got no plot, so this is an extra mode.  This is somewhat forgivable in this one game though, given that he's in the game and is a boss.
-There was NO NEED for him to be in Portrait of Ruin.  That Whip's Memory crap, as I explained earlier, was totally superfluous.

So you've got a number of instances in which he's just tacked on at the end, because he has an easily 'portable' set of sprites.  The only other character whom they shoehorn into games is Simon (in 8-bit 3-color NES mode, no less), but that one is always excusable because he's, as I mentioned before, the Castlevania Mascot character just like Snake is Metal Gear's and the Easter Island Statue is the Gradius mascot.

However, you've got this huge Richter fanbase for a character whom they always claim he's the strongest, most powerful Vampire Hunter, blah blah blah, where in reality he's a weak individual who allowed his mind to get violated by a dark priest.  He's just popular.  I guess that's what grinds my gears about him.  Thankfully, characters like Julius are brightly stealing Richter's status.

Julius is awesome, even as a middleaged man. ;)
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Re: I'm confused about this...
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2011, 03:49:44 PM »
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For the record, Judgment has 14 playable characters and HD has 11 (why 11? That's a stupid number to stop at)

I counted the multiplayer games for the fact I was counting all their playable instances as well as times they just appeared. I never said they were "Alucard Titles", rather titles Alucard appeared in.

I think Alucard being a Japanese government agent was pretty stupid. >.>

Them getting stronger as the bloodline goes on (Belmont Warlord Chromosomes :P) makes some sort of sense. Julius in his game isn't counted as stronger than Richter because, well... He's like 55. I mean, even look at the whip wielders' base attack in CVHD.

Jonny - 67
Simon - 68
Julius - 68
Richter - 69

Imagine Julius in his prime (19 during the 1999 incident). It'd be well in the 80's. ^.^
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Re: I'm confused about this...
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2011, 04:06:13 PM »
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If they were to release Trevor, Sypha & Grant as exclusive bonuses for the ps3 version, I'd be pissed.


and youthful Julius would have a power level of over 9000, no doubt. kinda reminds me of the character Kliff from the Guilty Gear X games how he's already a powerful old man, but he can transform into his younger self & display even more power lol!

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Re: I'm confused about this...
« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2011, 04:09:38 PM »
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Seriously, if we got to see a young Julius, he'd probably be pretty badass.

My knowledge of genetics prevents me from believing that they get stronger as the bloodline goes through the years.  If anything, I would believe that new skills learned throughout centuries of training, forged from practice and perfected with experience, would make someone more SKILLFUL, but not outright stronger.

However, most of Julius's skills are still from Simon and from Juste.  Item Crushes were usable even by sister families like the Morrises, Graveses, and Baldwins.
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Re: I'm confused about this...
« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2011, 04:31:15 PM »
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Well remember even as far back as Trevor, the Belmonts had supernatural powers.

Then Trevor had a kid with Sypha- a witch, and those genes are present in Juste. I assume those powers strengthen further down the line with training. I mean, you dont make giant holy energy based crosses without some kind of magic powers.

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Re: I'm confused about this...
« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2011, 04:38:10 PM »
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Sonia had 'em too.  Innate powers, too.

So do you think the Belmonts get stronger because they pick up traits from other strong families, as well?  That would imply that every Male Belmont got hitched with a Female from an appropriate strong family.  That's... let's see... Lecarde, Fernandez/Belnades, Renard, Morris, Baldwin, Schneider, and Graves... and perhaps Aulin.

There do seem to be quite a few.

But one can argue that this isn't strengthening the Belmont bloodline, but rather changing it by adding bloodlines from other families, thus actually weakening the Bloodline... They are stronger Belmonts as time goes down because they are stronger 'other familes involved' Belmonts. 
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Re: I'm confused about this...
« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2011, 06:13:58 PM »
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HD has 11 (why 11? That's a stupid number to stop at)

I don't believe you were around back when it was release, but I went and cracked open the files to discover Hammer was a planned DLC (among evidence for all the other DLC characters to date, besides Fuma, unless I didn't recognize what it was being a different series and all). Hammer never came out, but that would have made an even 12.

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« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2011, 07:20:33 PM »
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I don't believe you were around back when it was release, but I went and cracked open the files to discover Hammer was a planned DLC (among evidence for all the other DLC characters to date, besides Fuma, unless I didn't recognize what it was being a different series and all). Hammer never came out, but that would have made an even 12.

Oh, I knew about the Hammer and Simon and all that other jazz being in the files. Romulus from GameFAQs basically knows everything there is to know about Castlevania and figured out Fuma would be released months before he actually was from going through the files. Hammer would have made an even 12, but I don't think they even had plans to release him. Maybe Konami was being a team of d-bags and put that there to throw us off. :P

But whatever the case, 11 is still a weird number to choose.
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