Topic: The biggest mystery in all of Castlevania

[cecil-kain]

I'm working on a Castlevania 3 project right now for Operation Akumajo --and it popped in my head again...  I've wondered about this before of course, but everytime I almost made a topic about it over the years --something distracted me...

Picture this.  You're Trevor Belmont.  You're a vampire hunter.  It's your job to make the world safe for the living --by killing every vampire you see.  This particular mission is different from all the others --this particular vampire is different from all the others.  All of Europe is in danger.

About halfway through your quest, you're is attacked by a vampire.  Not the one your looking for, but still...  You do your thing and beat this vampire into submission --but then...  Something happens --the vampire gets up again and speaks.

"I'm surprise you beat me.  I've been waiting for you.  I need your help to destroy Dracula."

At this point, Trevor decided not only to spare the vampire's life --but to TRUST HIM WITH HIS.

And let's just forget about the Spirit Helper system that forced Sypha/Grant to leave --all CV3 endings are Canon according to later to later games in the series (so technically none of the actual CV3 endings are Canon, but that's another topic).

How is it that Trevor, Sypha, and Grant --ALL agreed to take a vampire into their midst on the Quest to destroy Dracula?  And also at what point did they discover this vampire was indeed the son of Dracula?  Because when Trevor agrees to accept him, Alucard merely says...

"I'm glad to hear that.  Let's get him.  I am Alucard."

This gaping plot hole is one of the best reasons to see Dracula's Curse rebooted IMO.  What do you think?

[crisis]

Well apparently Sypha, Trevor & Grant are good judge of characters. And Alucard has his mother's eyes, so they could literally see his pain & perhaps he even shed a tear when explaining his origins, so they knew he was human o.o;

[Nagumo]

The cutscene you see in the game was probably not what exactly happend. That conversation basically just happens off screen. Kind off how you don't see Dracula cursing Simon while the sequel tells you he did. If that makes sense.   

If they would ever remake this game, I bet they would expand the conversations between characters a bit more.     

[darkwzrd4]

The cutscene you see in the game was probably not what exactly happend. That conversation basically just happens off screen. Kind off how you don't see Dracula cursing Simon while the sequel tells you he did. If that makes sense.   

If they would ever remake this game, I bet they would expand the conversations between characters a bit more.   

I completely agree.  Remember, those games were more about gameplay than story.  It goes without saying that the conversations should be revised and lengthened.
As for why Trevor didn't slay Alucard, I can't say.  It's possible that he was willing to accept any help that was offered.  You know the old saying: "the enemy of my enemy is my friend."  Trevor probably originally planned to slay Alucard after Dracula was gone, but changed his mind after he got to know him.  This is all speculation seeing how it is never truly explained.

[X]

Definitely need a cut-scene of sorts to fill in this plot hole you speak of. Since the Belmonts have supernatural powers Trevor would have sensed there was something more to Alucard then your regular run-of-the-mill Vampire. And Sypha herself is a sorceress so she too would've sensed something about him as well. It's kinda like the 'Julius Vs Soma' battle in AoS. Even though Soma had reacquired his Vampiric powers Julius didn't outright kill him because he sensed the essence of Soma amidst the chaos, thus stopping the conflict before a mistake could be made. Since Grant doesn't have any said magical abilities, he might be the least of all the others to trust Alucard. But I think that over the course of the game Alucard earns Grants trust. And I believe that Alucard would tell the group that he is the son of Dracula (as it is mentioned in the CV3 ending sequence) and that he is only half Vampire.

[whitedragon_nall]

Maybe Trevor spelled Alucard's name backwards then put two and two together.

[Profbeanburrito]

I agree with what Nagumo says. Also back in those days they expected you to read the manuals the games came with to get a little info

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

Either that or Sonia told her son "Someday you might meet a young Vampire with this description in this one cave.  He's different, he will be tough but will not kill you.  Listen to what he says" "BUT MOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!?!?!?!?"

LOL J/K.  That is pretty strange, though.

[X]

Either that or Sonia told her son "Someday you might meet a young Vampire with this description in this one cave.  He's different, he will be tough but will not kill you.  Listen to what he says" "BUT MOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!?!?!?!?"

LOL! I can picture a chibi Trevor saying this 

[crisis]

There are many more mysterious in Castlevania that haven't been discussed, and I demand answers, such as:

• How did Mathias/Drac managed to stay hidden for so long without being noticed by the Belmonts or anyone? (300+ years is a long vacation)
• Why isn't Death in CVA/BR?
• What was Dracula doing during those 15 years between CVA & BR?
• Why was Richiter the last Belmont to wield Vampire Killer?
• If Alucard is "estimated to be 400" in 1797, how old is he in 2036?
• Who are the other Dark Lord Candidates? Surely there are more than 3
• What relationship does St. Germain have with Aeon, and how does that affect 1999?
• How does Alucard know the Librarian if he only appeared once in the series?
• In which game did Dracula WEAR A MASK?
• Why do Demonic Gods that existed centuries before Dracula, show him allegiance? (some even date back to ancient Sumer!)
• What's Galamoth's beef with Dracula??

answer me these, please

[Flame]

• How did Mathias/Drac managed to stay hidden for so long without being noticed by the Belmonts or anyone? (300+ years is a long vacation)

He chaned his name, remarried, and moved to Romania, and laid low until his second wife was killed. If he sint killing anyone or doing anything other than posing as "that one weird old rich guy up in ye old castle" then all the Belmonts had to work with is mere rumors and word of mouth. its not like GPS was invented.

• Why isn't Death in CVA/BR?

vacation maybe?

• What was Dracula doing during those 15 years between CVA & BR?

chillin', like a villin'

• Why was Richiter the last Belmont to wield Vampire Killer?

I like to assume it had something to do with being mindraped by Shaft and becoming a lackey of Dracula's

• If Alucard is "estimated to be 400" in 1797, how old is he in 2036?

639

• Who are the other Dark Lord Candidates? Surely there are more than 3

or are there?
technically there's only 2. Soma is not a Dark Lord candidate, he IS the Dark Lord.

• What relationship does St. Germain have with Aeon, and how does that affect 1999?

they might be part of the same time travel club. Along with Dr. Who and Doc Brown

• How does Alucard know the Librarian if he only appeared once in the series?

knows him from off screen. obviously the guy existed long before Symphony, he just never appeared in the games.

• In which game did Dracula WEAR A MASK?

well there WAS that one CV manga where on the cover Dracula's face IS the mask and you see a demon face underneath...

• Why do Demonic Gods that existed centuries before Dracula, show him allegiance? (some even date back to ancient Sumer!)

Cuz Dracula is just that beasty.

• What's Galamoth's beef with Dracula??

Maybe hes butthurt that Alucard kicked his ass when he was a little kid.


answer me these, please
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[darkwzrd4]

There are many more mysterious in Castlevania that haven't been discussed, and I demand answers, such as:

• How did Mathias/Drac managed to stay hidden for so long without being noticed by the Belmonts or anyone? (300+ years is a long vacation)
• Why isn't Death in CVA/BR?
• What was Dracula doing during those 15 years between CVA & BR?
• Why was Richiter the last Belmont to wield Vampire Killer?
• If Alucard is "estimated to be 400" in 1797, how old is he in 2036?
• Who are the other Dark Lord Candidates? Surely there are more than 3
• What relationship does St. Germain have with Aeon, and how does that affect 1999?
• How does Alucard know the Librarian if he only appeared once in the series?
• In which game did Dracula WEAR A MASK?
• Why do Demonic Gods that existed centuries before Dracula, show him allegiance? (some even date back to ancient Sumer!)
• What's Galamoth's beef with Dracula??

answer me these, please

All valid questions.  I think I can answer the one about the Librarian.  There are some clues that Alucard lived in the castle at one point.  Death mentions that Alucard was with them at one point. Plus, in the Radio Drama, there is at least one flashback with Lisa living in the castle.  And, if she lived there, it only makes sense that Alucard would have lived there too.

[Pemburu Vampir]

Why was Richiter the last Belmont to wield Vampire Killer?

because... Richi was Richter's mad twin brother and he used the whip for slaying the entire Belmont family, including Richter.

[Inccubus]

The original question about Trevor & Alucard begs a play through of Akumajou Densetsu so I can screen capture the dialogue and translate it properly since there's no doubt the presented story in CV3 has been mangled in transit from the land of the rising sun. Some scans of the original (J) manual may shed some light after a proper translation too. I've found that the us version of most NES era stories are largely made up bullshit. Take 8 Eyes, which claims to be set in a post-apocalyptic future. Upon having the original (J) manual's story translated by the folks over at RHDN, it turns out that the game actually takes place in the early 19th century and is about a cult trying to resurrect a demon.

[KaZudra]

How did Mathias/Drac managed to stay hidden for so long without being noticed by the Belmonts or anyone? (300+ years is a long vacation)

Easy, in LOI it was explained that he moved to various parts of the world

Why isn't Death in CVA/BR

Probably hard to put his coding into Gameboy

What was Dracula doing during those 15 years between CVA & BR?

Gathering his strength, seemingly that's all he does half the time...

Why was Richiter the last Belmont to wield Vampire Killer?

Julius did Wield the VK, but that's hundreds of years, probably had alot to do with the disappearance of Belmonts in that time

If Alucard is "estimated to be 400" in 1797, how old is he in 2036?

Really Old

Who are the other Dark Lord Candidates? Surely there are more than 3

Ah, the convenient sequel plots, all that was made up due to no material for a sequel

What relationship does St. Germain have with Aeon, and how does that affect 1999?

more IGA 1999 BS. every game after AoS has a 1999 reference, this is a reason I don't want IGA to do castlevania anymore.
Personally, the plot with Galamoth and Time Reaper sounds 1000x more interesting than a Dues ex Machina War

How does Alucard know the Librarian if he only appeared once in the series?

The Librarian is a vampire, or an evil spirit of Greed that knew Alucard when he was younger

In which game did Dracula WEAR A MASK?

Castlevania 2, the sprite resembles a dark spirit wearing a mask.

Why do Demonic Gods that existed centuries before Dracula, show him allegiance? (some even date back to ancient Sumer!)

Dracula Possesses the power to give them a physical form in the Relm, plus Dracula is ten-fold stronger

What's Galamoth's beef with Dracula??

oh, how I wish this could go in depth. my guess he's the only creature that can match Dracula and wants to overthrow his place.