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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2011, 11:27:03 AM »
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I'll just put it this way...
1094- Events of LoI
END OF LOI -Castle Collapses, Leon Escapes, Dracula was confirmed to Travel parts of the world in epilogue.
1476- Events of Cv3

Please, elaborately explain how a family would track a man with Dark powers, Various Identity Changes and Predominantly underground for 427 years...
Mind you that the ONLY source of info can come from letters, which take weeks to months to arrive given the time, and most of the letters could be red herrings.

Plus there is a Huge probability that later generations would just lose interest in dracula since he isn't doing anything in that time.

There is no way possible this could be explained in such a way people could "buy" that Bullshit.


Belmonts becoming Vampire hunters generations after (which also clicks with Cv3's Prologue) is a better explination and also doesn't sound as Over the top stupid.

hmmm...

Good point!

The only reason why Trevor was able to find dracula is because he came out of hiding after the humans killed his wife Lisa. It would be pretty hard finding him if he is indeed using his dark powers and brilliant tactician mind to hide from the world.


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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2011, 11:35:34 AM »
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i think dracula's discovery was pretty coincidental
the belmonts probably lost track of him in those 400 years and hunted other vampires instead

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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2011, 11:37:44 AM »
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the belmonts probably lost track of him in those 400 years and hunted other vampires instead

Maybe Count Olrox perhaps?

I have always wanted a CV game with him as a major villian ever since I first seen him in CVSOTN. ;D


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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2011, 11:43:21 AM »
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i can make an entire section just on Orlock.
He's one of the OLD Vampires Left (Since only Older Vampires have ALL sharpened teeth)
There is alot of room and alot of material I can do on Orlock by himself.... that's primarily why I want him in my Cv2 Remake.

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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2011, 12:19:00 PM »
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Please, elaborately explain how a family would track a man with Dark powers, Various Identity Changes and Predominantly underground for 427 years...

Hear about guys with vampire powers, and go after them. Perhaps the big bad they're looking for would be one of them. If they're planning on hunting the night, they'd do well to whack those other ones anyway, so it's not like they'd be going out of their way or anything.
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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2011, 12:42:41 PM »
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It's confirmed that the Belmonts became vampire hunters not too long after Leon's struggle, not "generations after cuz they lose interest." The PoR timeline states that they kept busy hunting down various vampire lords, each one they slayed added to Dracula's power. IGA is also on record saying that "if he were to shed light on this period, it would be more about, how did the Belmonts manage to track Mathias for so long? Being vampire hunters doesn't just mean Dracula, so who else were they hunting?"

So for someone to say there's nothing more they can do game-wise between LoI & CV3 is "utter bullshit." People will buy them as long as the gameplay's good.

"b-but it's called Akumajo DRACULA!"

Dracula can still be featured without him being killed/fought. Also, they can make a reverse-AoS that showcases how Mathias gained allegiance from all those monsters he controls.

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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2011, 12:49:23 PM »
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Yeah, I don't get the people who think a story set during 1094-1476 wouldn't be interesting just because Dracula wouldn't play a major part in the plot.           

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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2011, 01:03:25 PM »
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Then some people complain tht he's always killed 5 minutes after he resurrects, so why would they be opposed to him and his "herald" having substantial screentime in a game set in the 12th century? They could also pull a Rondo of Blood and have him make a cameo appearance in the background as Casius Belmont battles Lord Vallen in an "old, Austrian castle."

The possibilities are endless.

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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2011, 01:11:50 PM »
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Then some people complain tht he's always killed 5 minutes after he resurrects, so why would they be opposed to him and his "herald" having substantial screentime in a game set in the 12th century? They could also pull a Rondo of Blood and have him make a cameo appearance in the background as Casius Belmont battles Lord Vallen in an "old, Austrian castle."

The possibilities are endless.

I don't have a problem with Dracula not being fought in a CV game.

After all CVLOI,CVAOS,and CVDOS proves that a CV game can still be a CV game without him as the final boss.

If they where to make a game like that I would like to maybe see a few cameos or scenes involving what he is doing during that time period. Maybe he hears about a unkown belmont going after Count Olrox and remembers Leon's words about his clan hunting the night.


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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2011, 03:13:26 PM »
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Then some people complain tht he's always killed 5 minutes after he resurrects, so why would they be opposed to him and his "herald" having substantial screentime in a game set in the 12th century? They could also pull a Rondo of Blood and have him make a cameo appearance in the background as Casius Belmont battles Lord Vallen in an "old, Austrian castle."

The possibilities are endless.

Yeah, something like this. I wouldn't want them to be only interested in him, of course. On the contrary; the LoI-DC gap is the perfect time to fight other baddies and introduce other supporting characters. But I'd like Leon to have made his offspring know that whenever possible, they should keep looking for Mathias because he is a rising threat (according to the PoR bonus timeline poster, he gains more power from each other vampire slain).


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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2011, 07:23:01 PM »
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Keep in mind that CV3 also stated that the Belmonts were exiled from the country due to fear of their abilities. Several games could explain why they were so feared by the people they were protecting, and why the Church refused to aid them.

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After all CVLOI,CVAOS,and CVDOS proves that a CV game can still be a CV game without him as the final boss.

Even LoS?  :P

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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2011, 08:31:58 PM »
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Castlevania Needs Moar Horror Icons.

I would LOVE to see a Castlevania where you are against Dr. Frankenstein and his Army of Monsters!

So many Possibilities yet Konami chooses the Meta-Pattern of Dracula....


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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2011, 08:39:11 PM »
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Castlevania Needs Moar Horror Icons.

I would LOVE to see a Castlevania where you are against Dr. Frankenstein and his Army of Monsters!

So many Possibilities yet Konami chooses the Meta-Pattern of Dracula....

I agree.

Did anyone else interpret the Stage 2 boss in Rebirth as Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde?

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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #43 on: September 30, 2011, 08:42:44 PM »
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I agree.

Did anyone else interpret the Stage 2 boss in Rebirth as Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde?

...if the Mr. Hyde serum contain Venom (What Bane uses to be Huge) then totally yeah!

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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2011, 08:45:14 PM »
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Did anyone else interpret the Stage 2 boss in Rebirth as Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde?

Yeah. Seemed pretty obvious to me.

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