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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2011, 09:44:02 PM »
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I loved the atmosphere and somber mood. Loved the music too, and the design of Leon and his many subweapons and animations. Actually I want to go play it now. Wish they would re-release on PSN in HD..

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« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2011, 02:21:14 AM »
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It's the one Castlevania I always have a particular urge to replay. The game has a great aesthetic, and I remember back in  2003 that the graphics were fairly tubular. The marble hallway in Walter's keep were excellent. The music ranks among the best in the series, as well as the character designs.

That said, the 3D models were okay except for Sara. To quote a Finnish bastard, she looked like a 'space toad.' The action could get repetitive as well; they really ought to have branched out the combos. And finally, I can only play it in short bursts. As great as some areas like the Ghostly Theater look, seeing the same rooms and hallways over and over kill the mood.

Otherwise, for a long time it was the best 3D Castlevania. I imagine many say it still is. I just wish the level design was reworked into something more immersive, and the combat a bit more impressive.

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« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2011, 02:39:24 AM »
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Yeah, besides its flaws it is great! i feel like playing it now too.

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« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2011, 03:10:41 AM »
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Lament is a great game. Some of the hallways are repetitive but the atmosphere throughout that game is just amazing. Couple that with some of the best music and it just makes it better. A lot of people bad mouth IGA for it, but I always really enjoyed it. It's too bad Curse of Darkness wasn't quite as good
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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2011, 06:15:59 AM »
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The Music, orb system, and the overall feel, maks the level design worth it. it was flat, but it was still fun.

The way they explained the orbs you get upon defeating bosses was amazingly amusing to me too. Its like, "what DO those things do anyway?"
"Ummm.... Good idea... Oh I know, why dont we make them magical orbs? that way they enhance Leon's power!"

Well thats ONE way to explain em. I mean, fuck even DRACULA dropped one in the original.

I also find Walter just really fun as a character. He seems more interesting than Dracula almost, if only because... well, come on. Its Dracula. We already know anything needed to know about him. both from Castlevania lore and pop culture lore.

Walter though, is someone a bit more unique. He certainly LOOKS cool, and sounds awesome. His personality is also fun in that its different from Dracula's. While Dracul and other like him are dead serious, Walter is just an extremely bored immortal. He doesnt give a shit about anything, and just wants to amuse himself. Its all a game to him, which he likes to play frequently. (which again, explains why you find weapons and subweapons lying around a castle. You the main character are not the first person to attempt to traverse the castle)

Pity we cant get to know him better. for THAT theres definitely very little room. especially since he was killed in his debut game as a plot device for Dracula.

maybe a prequel minimanga or drama track of some sort?
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« Reply #50 on: October 01, 2011, 07:14:53 AM »
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I agree Walter is awesome. Not to mention "Behold my strength now this is power!" is one of the coolest attacks in a Castlevania game.

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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #51 on: October 01, 2011, 03:21:47 PM »
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maybe a prequel minimanga or drama track of some sort?

That would be a good idea.

Also it would be nice to see his relationship with Joachim and when he turned Joachim into a vampire and Joachim rebelled.

I have always wondered who turned Walter into a Vampire.

Maybe he was born a vampire?

Maybe he got his powers through dark means like Mathias?

Even by vampire standards Walter was pretty damn powerful which really does raise the question as to what his origin and lineage is and how he became so strong.


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« Reply #52 on: October 01, 2011, 04:17:47 PM »
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Didn't Joachim come to the castle to kill Walter like the others would-be heros? Only then to be captured and transformed by Walter into a vampire and then locked away in the waterway stage?
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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #53 on: October 01, 2011, 04:20:05 PM »
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Didn't Joachim come to the castle to kill Walter like the others would-be heros? Only then to be captured and transformed by Walter into a vampire and then locked away in the waterway stage?

Where was that said?

All I recall being revealed was that he was turned into a vampire long ago by Walter and rebelled not to long afterwards only to be beaten and locked up.


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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #54 on: October 01, 2011, 06:51:24 PM »
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Joachim was another awesome vampire villain. None of the teleport fireball stuff here! Nope, instead, psychokinetic swords. I liked how he had the two different formations for them.
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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #55 on: October 02, 2011, 02:30:22 AM »
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I really enjoy Joachim Mode, though I wish he had as many moves when you're playing him as he did when you fight against him... and that you could teleport from Save Rooms or something since you can't use tickets.


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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #56 on: October 02, 2011, 02:35:41 AM »
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Where was that said?

All I recall being revealed was that he was turned into a vampire long ago by Walter and rebelled not to long afterwards only to be beaten and locked up.

This could be the case. I haven't played LoI in a long time so this part of the story is a little fuzzy. I only remember that Joachim had a hate-on against Walter. The other thing I can recall is that Joachim wanted Walter's Ebony stone, But the stone chose Walter instead of Joachim. Joachim also laments about not having the Crimson stone.
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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #57 on: October 02, 2011, 04:06:59 AM »
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What I wanna know is how the Forgotten One came to be in the castle. Was the castle built around him? Did he trip down the giant flight of stairs leading to his chamber and tore his legs off due to the fall?

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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #58 on: October 02, 2011, 04:11:44 AM »
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maybe he was a very ancient vampire who was punished for his ''unholiness'' your guess is as good as mine. 

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Re: your opinions on lament of innocence
« Reply #59 on: October 02, 2011, 01:58:01 PM »
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The game itself tells you he was a monster created by mortal hands, who was imprisoned in the Prison of Eternal Torture because it nearly ended the world with it's uncontrollable power. Where it was, tortured and weakened. Skinned alive, cut in half, and one of his arms cut off, resulting in what we fight. As well as that mask/helmet on his face. Then he was (or before the torture) hanged on hooks to support him, and stayed there for God knows how long, eventually forgotten by all, as his name implies.


Now, who or what defeated him is the real mystery. Maybe Walter had a hand in it. Who knows. But if Leon was able to defeat him, then its not a stretch to think he was somehow defeated by those who created him. Im going to guess he was put in the castle, not the castle around him.

Im also going to think we are not supposed to really delve too deeply into it.
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