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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #135 on: May 16, 2012, 12:41:11 AM »
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From what I remember, it was either Cox or Alverez that said that Gabriel used the power of the souls that brought him back and made him uber to banish Satan and destroy the seal that Zobek placed at the same time.

Although this should have been more clearer in the game instead of having the player guessing on what just happened.

...Man the story of LoS is way, WAY too similar to the one in the Dante Inferno's game. This was another reason I wasn't a fan of LoS.

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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #136 on: May 16, 2012, 12:44:54 AM »
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More originality/Castlevania in the sequel would be nice.


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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #137 on: May 16, 2012, 01:07:01 AM »
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...Man the story of LoS is way, WAY too similar to the one in the Dante Inferno's game. This was another reason I wasn't a fan of LoS.
It's a shame that Dante's Inferno began production 1 whole year after LoS.

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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #138 on: May 16, 2012, 01:13:20 AM »
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More originality/Castlevania in the sequel would be nice.

Agreed. LoS has a lot of potential and I want to see it realized with LoS2.

It's a shame that Dante's Inferno began production 1 whole year after LoS.

Yet released months before LoS did, thus showing the same story first and making LoS look like it had ripped said story off.
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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #139 on: May 16, 2012, 01:18:32 AM »
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Sorry, mis-posted.

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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #140 on: May 16, 2012, 01:24:03 AM »
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Agreed. LoS has a lot of potential and I want to see it realized with LoS2.

Yet released months before LoS did, thus showing the same story first and making LoS look like it had ripped said story off.
I dunno, in DI's your girl dies, Satan comes for her, she goes to hell, you get to hell, destroy the guardians of the 9 circles of hell, then Satan seduces the girl, then she becomes evil, then you find out you're dead, then you fight satan, then you get the girl, then live happily ever after.

I don't see the similarities to be honest :P

Edit: Other than Satan (Who is not even remotely similar, he's a little more handsome in LoS :P ) and the dead girl as plot device of course
« Last Edit: May 16, 2012, 01:29:20 AM by Ahasverus »

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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #141 on: May 16, 2012, 01:34:17 AM »
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The actual Commedia was more entertaining than the video game.

Another stupid post by me but
Super Castlevania IV OST: Stage 6 Entrance Hall (6-1)
Jesus some of IV's music doesn't even need to reorchestrated, it's already perfect. I'd jizz if I heard this in LoS2.


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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #142 on: May 16, 2012, 03:20:40 AM »
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...Man the story of LoS is way, WAY too similar to the one in the Dante Inferno's game. This was another reason I wasn't a fan of LoS.

Don't forget Van Helsing.


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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #143 on: May 16, 2012, 03:47:00 AM »
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I dont recall Van Hellsing's story being similar to LoS, other than the protagonist being named Gabriel.

Van Hellsing as I recall was developed from what was going to be a Castlevania movie wasnt it?

Which would explain a bit. Youve even got the token "Family who has sworn to kill Dracula and are cursed to try and do so or they will never enter heaven". Which IMO, makes for an interesting idea.
Laura and Gabriel arrive in the deepest cave of the castle and... they find IGA.

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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #144 on: May 16, 2012, 04:24:20 AM »
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As long as the story is interesting, the music is cool and the whole thing feels a bit more CV-ish, I'm sold.

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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #145 on: May 16, 2012, 04:31:48 AM »
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I don't think there was ever anything official about Van Helsing starting out as a CV movie.

Anyway, they have similarities. More than a few. I'm probably beating a dead horse, but just for reminding:

- Both protagonists are called Gabriel
- Both have gaps in their memories

- There might be a deeper reason The Brotherhood of Light named him Gabriel. Van Helsing is confirmed as the archangel Gabriel.

- Both were raised/taken care by the "holy" order they fight for.
- The "batty" vampires look a lot similar.
- A spell is keeping people from entering heaven in both stories.

- The icy, barren vampire castles, the village and the mountain landscape. Just compare them to each other. Yeah, similar genres and all, but coupled with the other similarities, it's unlikely to be a coincidence.

- Love interest enters afterlife in the conclusion.

There's probably more, but I'll stop here.


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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #146 on: May 16, 2012, 04:37:51 AM »
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- There might be a deeper reason The Brotherhood of Light named him Gabriel. Van Helsing is confirmed as the archangel Gabriel.
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The order gave the nameless boy the Christian name of one of the blessed archangels, Gabriel and raised him as one of its own members. The precocious child quickly proved to be extremely talented, developing a mastery of the fighting arts unprecedented in the Brotherhood. However, he was also prone to dark moods and moments of brooding that only his beloved childhood sweetheart, Marie, could pacify.


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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #147 on: May 16, 2012, 07:54:51 AM »
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I'd be way WAY more excited if they announced a 3DS/Vita game, produced by IGA with artwork from Kojima/Masaki & music from Yamane/Koshiro. Like the good 'ol days. Not to say I'm not looking forward to LoS-2, though.


Like this post if you agree.

I'm cool with all this, but they should do something different or more ambitious with the Metroidvania format.

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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #148 on: May 16, 2012, 10:24:11 AM »
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I would be very sad if Mercury Steam would take over the 2d games as well. I don't mind if their games coexist with other Castlevania games as long as I can have my fun too.

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Re: Lords of shadow 2 is on it's way
« Reply #149 on: May 16, 2012, 01:35:53 PM »
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- Both protagonists are called Gabriel
a Name is a name, and when you deal with satan and similar things, it seems to be a popular trope to name the protagonist Gabriel or another angel name.

In Van helsing, Gabriel IS THE Gabriel. in loS, he was raised by a holy order and thus named after the archangel.

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- Both have gaps in their memories
quite different however. Van Helsing has a memory gap that has forgotten him his entire past. he just works for the church and thats that, he doesnt remember anything else. Gabriel only has small memory lapses where he was mind controlled by a demonic mask held by a Necromancer into killing two people.

Also, Julius Belmont had lost memory too. And he had the Van Helsing kind. Where he didnt remember ANYTHING of his past.

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- The "batty" vampires look a lot similar.
granted, though I think it's more due to making them look more realistic(?) and demonic/monster looking. Sort of yknow, breaking the romanticism behind vampires and saying "yeah, these are some scary ass motherfuckers."

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- A spell is keeping people from entering heaven in both stories.
entirely different.
One is a worldwide spell cast by an evil necromancer, the other is a curse confined to a single family's bloodline, and the causes and reasons MUCH different.

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- The icy, barren vampire castles, the village and the mountain landscape. Just compare them to each other. Yeah, similar genres and all, but coupled with the other similarities, it's unlikely to be a coincidence.
Im inclined to consider it quite the coincidence. Dracula castles and shit are usually placed in icy, cold mountain regions in media. It looks cooler. Also, the castles look nothing alike. mainly, the LoS castle looks like more of a castle.
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- Love interest enters afterlife in the conclusion.
in LoS the love interest was already dead at the start of the game.
in van helsing, she dies at the end of the movie, after Dracula was defeated. (and thus the stipulations for breaking the curse were met)

honestly, these are really superficial comparisons IMO.
Laura and Gabriel arrive in the deepest cave of the castle and... they find IGA.

 

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