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American Juggalo
« on: May 14, 2012, 07:00:02 PM »
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This mini-documentary is so amazing. I'm serious—it's really entertaining to watch.

Though most of the time I don't know whether to laugh or feel really sad. :(

Warning: Boobs and even full-frontal nudity present.

American Juggalo on Vimeo
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Re: American Juggalo
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2012, 10:49:03 PM »
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I had a friend who listens to ICP. He let me listen to a bunch of their songs and I was like, wtf dude? Seriously?
I mean, I'm all for alternative culture and music and shit, but alternative hip-hop? Meh.
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Re: American Juggalo
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2012, 11:06:48 PM »
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I like the Great Milenko cd thats about as far as it goes with me and icp

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Re: American Juggalo
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2012, 01:37:57 AM »
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Well there goes the last shred of hope for today's youth.

Exterminate! Exterminate!

Plus the fully nude chick, I didn't find her attractive in the least bit, her hair or whatever is on her head turned me off.
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Re: American Juggalo
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2012, 02:10:48 AM »
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I was more horrified by her perfectly awful posture.

The "titties for a dollar" chick was pretty cute, though, and I can't help but be intrigued by and slightly attracted to the one who calls herself Maniac.

Though realistically I'd never wanna hang out with either because I hate people, especially women—especially Juggalettes.

By the way, when everyone talks about the gathering of fellow Juggalos being a "family," especially that group of dudes who start chanting "FAM-UH-LEE, FAM-UH-LEE," all I could think about is this Casey Jones reaction (at 0:25)—

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Re: American Juggalo
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2012, 01:07:15 AM »
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All I got to say about ICP is.... fuckin' magnets, how do they work?

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Re: American Juggalo
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2012, 04:35:05 AM »
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Re: American Juggalo
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2012, 05:36:55 AM »
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I know a guy who posts here, BingleGod, is/was a Juggalo. Otherwise, I've never had any experiences with them.

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Re: American Juggalo
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2012, 05:50:06 AM »
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To go off of what he's told me, the whole subculture thing is certainly bizarre. On the other hand, it does provide a sense of community for people who are social outcasts or feel left out by society. It's a family-feeling brought on by the mutual love of a rap duo.

It's nowhere near my cup of tea, but I can respect the feeling of inclusiveness.

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Re: American Juggalo
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2012, 08:50:13 AM »
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Every Juggalo I've sen looked like white trash. And every Juggalette... well, some I would fuck till my dick fell off and i can fuck a long-ass time... but most were either trash or junkies. And everytime I see a chick with that many piercings over her face, i can't help but think of the adult store employee from Moral Orel, Stephanie.
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Re: American Juggalo
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2012, 11:04:45 AM »
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To me, the Juggalo appear to be a modern version of the Hippie. Hippies were in essence an outcast of society as they were against the political/military state of mind that the majority of the world had embraced since the cold war began. So it looks like we're coming full-circle once more, but yeah they do look kind trashy. Each to their own I suppose.
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Re: American Juggalo
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2012, 02:34:00 AM »
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I remember first hearing about ICP in the mid/late 90s and not entirely understanding it. The whole culture is fascinating, I wonder what will happen to it with the inevitable demise of the original band through either retirement or death. Cult of personalities don't seem to do too well without a patron to keep them going after the original's death, but I'm sure someone close to the band will see enough money in it to keep it going one way or the other.

The band itself has gotten more "interesting" you might say, since their conversion (or "reveal" as they put it iirc) to Christianity. And the obvious difficulty of reconciling that religion with things like the verse about killing/violating a woman then using a broken broomstick in a very unpleasant way as recited by a Juggalo in the above video.

ICP has their own Wrestling Federation by the way, "Juggalo Championship Wrestling", formerly "Championshit" before their religious awakening.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggalo_Championship_Wrestling and the band themselves have wrestled for many years.
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Re: American Juggalo
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2012, 07:34:06 AM »
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I thought it was just a morality awakening (said to be 'planned all along'), not a Christian conversion, despite some people equating their message to that of Christianity's? I believe I recall Shaggy and J denying any Christian connections in an interview.

As for will the Juggalo movement disappear when the band disbands or dies? According to what I knew at the time, Juggalos don't follow just the ICP, but there have been other groups absorbed into Psychopathic Records that also qualify you under the same title, such as Twizted. In a sense its as much an outcast community for the listeners, as the artists. Theoretically Juggalos can live on forever, as long as new artists join the ranks. I however don't know if that is still true.

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Re: American Juggalo
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2012, 07:50:29 AM »
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Nah it was Christian http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/09/insane-clown-posse-christians-god and funny thing about that interview, the video they're watching isn't by a college professor, odd they would assume that, not to mention that they think the video took 2 days to make.
The person who made the video actually responded to the interview as well - the video they're watching (in the interview) Understanding Insane Clown Posse's "Miracles" the response/reaction to the interview Insane Clown Posse: not fans of ZJ Also it is extremely disappointing, but sadly not surprising, if after all that talk of acceptance many Juggalos attack transgendered and/or gay people*. Not sure which Zinnia Jones identifies as.
*As someone is suggesting in the comments.
 
As for will the Juggalo movement disappear when the band disbands or dies? According to what I knew at the time, Juggalos don't follow just the ICP, but there have been other groups absorbed into Psychopathic Records that also qualify you under the same title, such as Twizted. In a sense its as much an outcast community for the listeners, as the artists. Theoretically Juggalos can live on forever, as long as new artists join the ranks. I however don't know if that is still true.
That's interesting, I guess I should have expected that ICP would have franchised out the Juggalo brand to lots of different bands already. That is given how deceptively organized they are, having their own wrestling federation/7 day festival etc. Looks like they've got it all set up to be a consistent money maker for their descendants.
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Re: American Juggalo
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2012, 09:19:38 AM »
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They're Christian now apparently. It's part of the gig to bash the trannys and fags- oops.

And yeah, guess I didn't hear that right, lol. Strange, but interesting. I can sort of understand where they're coming from with "Miracles" though, and I believe Mark Twain did a similar bit on rivers too in a short story. Understanding mystical happenings and miracles removes all the 'magic' and emotion in them. I know this to be especially true, having lost the magical feeling about many things as I further understand and research them.

In this light, it is most definitely true that ignorance is bliss. Go figure.

As an additional note, I'd be curious to know how the other groups licensed with Psychopathic Records reacted to this. Did some jump ship? Did they also tag along with it?

EDIT: Looking at the Psychopathic Records site briefly, I see ICP, Twizted, Blaze, and ABK listed on the main page. Seems like the same crew from years ago. Guess no one jumped ship.
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