Topic: Fiv-- I mean Four Reasons Paul W.S Anderson deserves more credit

[TheCruelAngel]

Hm, so basically its to mark the old ones, thanks.

Fixed. 



Also, Sindra, since you seem pretty invested in disliking Anderson's work I'm curious what you think of his first RE movie. Ignore the rest of them, just the first one, on it's own. Is it still to your disliking? What portions of the first film really grind your gears?

I want to know! Especially since I think the first RE movie is fine on it's own, everything after is just a mess and I'm still not quite sure how to digest them...

[Sindra]

The first movie wasn't bad on its own. Granted, from the perspective of a Resident Evil fan who subscribes to a great deal of the actual scientific and biological facts that the games are littered with, I found a lot of inconsistencies. (Lickers do not mutate by feeding on "fresh DNA". Eating people never contributed to any mutation overload with the T-virus)

There was also the outright ridiculous. (Alice wall-kicking a Cerberus and knocking it out cold in a grand display of an over-excessive need for action)

Thing that was okay with a lot of Resident Evil fans was that, even with the instabilities they displayed apart from the actual game mythos, the plot could very well have worked by itself in the canon of the Resident Evil games. It messed with very few actual established game characters and areas. If greater attention to detail had been given, it would have been fine to keep as a stand-alone movie in the Resident Evil universe. (kind of like if RE: Survivor had been made a movie)

But then the studios decided to give into fan desire for actual live-action depictions of canon RE characters and events, and made the mistake of thinking Paul Anderson and his writers were actually going to adhere in any way to the games story and that he wouldn't shove his wife into the spotlight as the Super Mary-Sue that outshines all others.

[Inccubus]

But then the studios decided to give into fan desire for actual live-action depictions of canon RE characters and events, and made the mistake of thinking Paul Anderson and his writers were actually going to adhere in any way to the games story and that he wouldn't shove his wife into the spotlight as the Super Mary-Sue that outshines all others.

I was ok with the first one, as I think most fans were. This here is when I started to detest this film series.

[Neobelmont]

With all of this I can say one thing and one thing only that he did right..... Fanservice!!!!!!!




Yes we know she kills nemesis and all, and in the movie not so much, but dang it at least Sienna looked liked her

and I refuse to complain about that amen.... 

[TheCruelAngel]

Thank you for taking the time to reply!

I figured you would probably have enjoyed the first RE movie with only a few gripes (I agree, the licker thing was dumb though I'm ok with Alice's mega kick).  But just wanted to make sure myself and not assume anything (because you know what they say about assumptions...), so I'm glad my suspicions were correct!

I completely agree that after the first one the series of movies just went drastically downhill and the inclusion of actual game characters to appease the fans couldn't of been a worse decision.

I'm glad to see I'm not alone in this opinion. All the Anderson hate had me worried for a bit there! And yes, if there is one thing to take away from the latter films, Jill was cast pretty well. 

[Inccubus]

Actually, the moment that I began to hate the series was exactly that first scene in the second movie where Jill shows up all bad-ass and throws that match/lighter/whatever and it fails and Alice is conveniently in place to show her up and make Jill look bad. That was the problem with including the game characters, not that they were present, but that their every action is undermined by Anderson's love letter to his wife writing. That is what turned "fanservice" into "faninsult". Oh, so these are all the characters you love so much? Well, my wife is a superhero and will always save their inferior asses.

[Ratty]

Well, my wife is a superhero and will always save their inferior asses.

Pretty much this.

[crisis]

I think it woulda been awesome if Gabriel fought Cthulhu instead of The Forgotten One; it would've made him seem that much more badass & permanently mark Dracula as the true King of Chaos, every evil being in existence in allegiance to him. Can you imagine Cthulhu begging for mercy upon his defeat? Woulda been badass i tells ya


only other vg character that has the strength & courage to defeat Cthulhu is Kratos, PROVE ME WRONG

[Lelygax]

Since SOTN we have them as normal enemies.
Have you watched Nyaruko-san anime? Its funny and have a lot of parodies, also she is a Ctulhu lol

[Inccubus]

I think the consensus is that the Cthulhu enemies in SotN are his children, the Star-spawn.

[Lelygax]

SinceI didnt read any of Lovecraft's book I dont know, also I dont remember what is said in the enemy description too.

[TheCruelAngel]

I think it woulda been awesome if Gabriel fought Cthulhu instead of The Forgotten One; it would've made him seem that much more badass & permanently mark Dracula as the true King of Chaos, every evil being in existence in allegiance to him. Can you imagine Cthulhu begging for mercy upon his defeat? Woulda been badass i tells ya


only other vg character that has the strength & courage to defeat Cthulhu is Kratos, PROVE ME WRONG

THIS! We're already dealing with the old Gods (like Pan) so why not the old ones as well? I mean, Gabriel would go on to fight Cthulhu if it furthered his ambition to acquire the god mask without giving it a second thought. Also being the harbinger of insanity and all other things the devs really could have gone wild (think trippier than the fight against Dracula in Harmony of Dissonance for environment colors and such)

Also, right up there with Kratos I'm going to go with Dante. I mean, that's one bad dude who makes a hobby out of killing the highest ranking demons and monstrosities.

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I also think the son of Sparda could take down Kratos, but that's mainly because I'm a DMC fan first (like since the first game came out) before a GoW fan. And I think Dante is just too cool/badass.

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Awesome Series - Awesome May Cry

 

[Inccubus]

Cthulhu would eat Gabriel after completely destroying his mind with his mere proximity.

[crisis]

hay boy, which is wyh i made a graphic featuring these 3 studs



who would win??

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btw kratos will break cthulhu in half
for he is death incarnate; the destroyer of worlds

[Lelygax]

Depends, if thats in a PS3, Kratos wins. lol