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Re: the Lament of Innocence origin story.....
« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2012, 07:09:21 PM »
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I doubt it.  Considering that he was completely manipulated and ended up having to sacrifice someone he loved, I doubt he'd just mellow out that easily.  Especially considering that the one who manipulated him is someone he saw as a close friend.

The same could be said of Mathias.  Did he just move on when his wife died?  No.  He concocted that plan just to spite "God", someone he saw as a close friend.
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« Reply #46 on: October 03, 2012, 07:17:01 AM »
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Sorry guys, Leon's motives are of pure hatred.  While he does fight Mathias/Dracula, he does fight his most loyal minion (Death).  After the battle with Death, Leon tells Death to give Mathias a message which is as follows:

"You have become a cursed being and I will never forgive you.  This whip and my kinsmen will destroy you one day .  From this day on, the Belmont clan will hunt the night!!!"

It would seem that Leon's motives are pure revenge.  Though it is possible that over the generations, this personal grudge is forgotten and the motives for fighting Dracula become more selfless.

I went a little too far when I said "concern" earlier, but as I said before, I do not see hatred in those lines (and I watched that scene when I made my first post). Anger and disappointment, yes. hatred, no. Leon's desire to avenge Sara ended with Walter's death. The first sentence doesn't even say anything about what happen to Sara and the fact that Leon was used as a pawn, but was focus on what Mathias did to himself. but like I also said before, I interpret the scenes differently.

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Re: the Lament of Innocence origin story.....
« Reply #47 on: October 03, 2012, 09:49:33 AM »
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I think everyone's desire (excdept the one person) to have Leon be all angsty and vindictive points to some personal inner grudges held by some of the people on these forums.  Face the fact: Leon was in his prime on the verge of being able to finally score some hot tail then BAM! He has to kill the girl who was ready to spread'em for him. Forget the revenge aspect, the dude was horny. Even if he was mad and bitter and grief-stricken, he was still horny. It wouldn't have been long before he found some other wench to bed down. It's only human nature. It's the way of gods to hold grudges for generation after generation after generation; it's the way of man to seek solace in a vagina (or man-love, if he's classic Grecian).
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« Reply #48 on: October 03, 2012, 10:42:50 AM »
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Some fanart would have you believe that all the characters are classic Grecian.

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« Reply #49 on: October 03, 2012, 02:18:27 PM »
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I think everyone's desire (excdept the one person) to have Leon be all angsty and vindictive points to some personal inner grudges held by some of the people on these forums. Face the fact: Leon was in his prime on the verge of being able to finally score some hot tail then BAM! He has to kill the girl who was ready to spread'em for him. Forget the revenge aspect, the dude was horny. Even if he was mad and bitter and grief-stricken, he was still horny. It wouldn't have been long before he found some other wench to bed down. It's only human nature. It's the way of gods to hold grudges for generation after generation after generation; it's the way of man to seek solace in a vagina (or man-love, if he's classic Grecian).
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« Reply #50 on: October 03, 2012, 02:28:20 PM »
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I think everyone's desire (excdept the one person) to have Leon be all angsty and vindictive points to some personal inner grudges held by some of the people on these forums.  Face the fact: Leon was in his prime on the verge of being able to finally score some hot tail then BAM! He has to kill the girl who was ready to spread'em for him. Forget the revenge aspect, the dude was horny. Even if he was mad and bitter and grief-stricken, he was still horny. It wouldn't have been long before he found some other wench to bed down. It's only human nature. It's the way of gods to hold grudges for generation after generation after generation; it's the way of man to seek solace in a vagina (or man-love, if he's classic Grecian).

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Re: the Lament of Innocence origin story.....
« Reply #51 on: October 04, 2012, 05:32:41 PM »
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Haters gonna hate. You're all just in denial. I'll get my friend Carl Jung to lecture you all on this.
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« Reply #52 on: October 04, 2012, 05:50:04 PM »
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Freud would like to ask you about your mother first XD
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« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2012, 09:01:52 AM »
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Did someone say Jung Freud?


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« Reply #54 on: October 05, 2012, 10:19:26 AM »
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Where did that anime pic come from?? It looks like an adult version of Naru Osaka from Sailor Moon!
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« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2012, 10:57:30 AM »
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Where did that anime pic come from?? It looks like an adult version of Naru Osaka from Sailor Moon!

It comes from Gainax's best work they've ever done, Gunbuster! (Those who disagree have no appreciation for the 80's I tells ya!) The character's name is Jung Freud, hence further derailing the thread with off tangents.

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« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2012, 11:07:26 AM »
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Looks like a redhead Haman Karn.

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« Reply #57 on: October 05, 2012, 11:11:48 AM »
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Looks like a redhead Haman Karn.

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« Reply #58 on: October 09, 2012, 09:04:25 AM »
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I will certainly be hated by all.. but i find the LOS Plot nice !


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You have become a cursed being and I will never forgive you. This whip and my kinsmen will destroy you someday. From this day on, the Belmont Clan will hunt the night.

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« Reply #59 on: October 09, 2012, 02:26:56 PM »
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I will certainly be hated by all.. but i find the LOS Plot nice !


Just for this Line

You have become a cursed being and I will never forgive you. This whip and my kinsmen will destroy you someday. From this day on, the Belmont Clan will hunt the night.

"I'll Kill You AND THE NIGHT!"

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