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Re: None Shall Stand Against Him
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2012, 02:04:27 PM »
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As long as they are using Christian themes in the game, Satan is the ultimate face of evil but his existence is only foreshadowed. Satan is the ultimate evil and he is the reason there is pain and suffering. Dracula is more of a tool who is succumbed to Satan's vile ways... Take it as "The Government rules us all, but Illuminati is above all... yet Cthulgu is above all...Yet God is the reason these things exist."

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Re: None Shall Stand Against Him
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2012, 03:30:53 PM »
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..except that Galamoth had already been a villain in the series. And not just a boss like he was in SotN. The final boss.
I am not sure why Kid Dracula should be considered part of the Castlevania series.
It is based of it, referenced, but not ultimately part of the timeline / storyline.

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Re: None Shall Stand Against Him
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2012, 03:52:31 PM »
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Dude, Kid Dracula totally fits into the timeline. At some point, Soma settles down and has a son, but then mysterious circumstances cause him to become Dracula, and his son becomes "Kid Dracula".
Pfft. Like anything's ever going here

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Re: None Shall Stand Against Him
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2012, 04:06:17 PM »
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Dude, Kid Dracula totally fits into the timeline. At some point, Soma settles down and has a son, but then mysterious circumstances cause him to become Dracula, and his son becomes "Kid Dracula".

actually, a lot of fans seem to think that Kid Dracula is in fact Alucard.


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Re: None Shall Stand Against Him
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2012, 04:40:09 PM »
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Impossible. Kid Dracula takes place around 10,000 AD, which is way after Alucard grows up and betrays his father.
Pfft. Like anything's ever going here

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Re: None Shall Stand Against Him
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2012, 04:45:44 PM »
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Since everybody is talking about Dracula-kun now, I don't there is any connection between him and Alucard. There is a timeline from Konami Magazine that places Kid Dracula in 11797 (10,000 years after Symphony of Night for some reason) and we also know that Dracula-kun is 10,009 years old. So I think that rules it out.

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Re: None Shall Stand Against Him
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2012, 04:49:03 PM »
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I am not sure why Kid Dracula should be considered part of the Castlevania series.
It is based of it, referenced, but not ultimately part of the timeline / storyline.

The point is he was introduced as a rival / enemy of Dracula long before IGA had anything to do with Castlevania. Even if Kid Dracula weren't part of the timeline, Galamoth is treated as an existing antagonist in later games.


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Re: None Shall Stand Against Him
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2012, 05:01:10 PM »
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Impossible. Kid Dracula takes place around 10,000 AD, which is way after Alucard grows up and betrays his father.

Maybe something happens to Alucard?

10,000 years is a VERY long time.

And considering all the magic and weird stuff in CV NOTHING is impossible given that amount of time.


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Re: None Shall Stand Against Him
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2012, 03:06:29 PM »
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Even if Kid Dracula weren't part of the timeline, Galamoth is treated as an existing antagonist in later games.
He could be treated as this on account of his SOTN appearance.
As for his status as Dracula rival - it is of course reference to the Kid Dracula, but it doesn't mean, that KD is a part of the Castlevania series.

Interestingly, KD happens 10 thousand years in the future and its supposedly the same timeframe, from where Time Reaper in Judgement came from. Nice throwback, though rather useless and in the wrong game.

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Re: None Shall Stand Against Him
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2012, 03:27:23 PM »
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He could be treated as this on account of his SOTN appearance.

Not really. He was a seemingly imprisoned creature in Dracula's castle in SotN, one of the numerous monsters forced to serve D. In KD and Judgment, he was a  big bad against Dracula (in Judgment, he was even a threat worse than Drac). A fanon theory could be that because he manipulates time, there are timelines where he has been defeated and others where he isn't.

 I don't know if there are more references in the main timeline to him like there was in AoS, but he certainly is "official".


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Re: None Shall Stand Against Him
« Reply #25 on: November 29, 2012, 02:18:45 AM »
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As long as they are using Christian themes in the game, Satan is the ultimate face of evil but his existence is only foreshadowed. Satan is the ultimate evil and he is the reason there is pain and suffering. Dracula is more of a tool who is succumbed to Satan's vile ways... Take it as "The Government rules us all, but Illuminati is above all... yet Cthulgu is above all...Yet God is the reason these things exist."

On a side note... I really wish the names of Satan and Lucifer hadn't gotten mixed up in popular/christian culture. They aren't even the same character in the Bible.


Maybe something happens to Alucard?

10,000 years is a VERY long time.

And considering all the magic and weird stuff in CV NOTHING is impossible given that amount of time.

Sometimes artistic style has nothing to do with anything. Just look at Megaman Zero. When asked about the change in Zero's design, Keiji Inafune (?ref?), said it was just an aesthetic choice with no bearing in the story or timeline.
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Re: None Shall Stand Against Him
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2012, 02:44:07 AM »
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Hey this time it wasnt me who brought Mega Man into the discussion! :D

Command Mission however sort of inchest towards the idea of technological progress being a slight factor in the slender designs. the Artist thought that since Command Mission was 22XX, that it was in the Zero timeline, so he gave X those slimmer legs. (and look at Marino too, for example)

ZX furthers the concept. the more technology advances, the more Human looking Reploids become. by ZX, the more ROBOTIC the Humans become, merging the two into one race.
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Re: None Shall Stand Against Him
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2012, 05:56:10 PM »
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Not really. He was a seemingly imprisoned creature in Dracula's castle in SotN, one of the numerous monsters forced to serve D. In KD and Judgment, he was a  big bad against Dracula (in Judgment, he was even a threat worse than Drac).
The problem is, it was never stated, that KD and Castlevania'verse are connected to each other. KD is based off CV, but is it really part of its chronology? If not, then Galamoth's position as a big bad was never confirmed prior-AOS in-universe.

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Re: None Shall Stand Against Him
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2012, 06:27:49 PM »
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The first edition of the offical timeline mentioned the game. It's the timeline made by IGA during the development of Symphony of the Night.  They decided to put Legends on there too but without IGA's consent apperently.       



At the end of the timeline it says:

11797 - Kid Dracula awakes

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Re: None Shall Stand Against Him
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2012, 06:34:36 PM »
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The first edition of the offical timeline mentioned the game. It's the timeline made by IGA during the development of Symphony of the Night.  They decided to put Legends on there too but without IGA's consent apperently.       



At the end of the timeline it says:

11797 - Akumajo Special: Boku Dracula-kun  (Kid Dracula)

Interesting find.
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