Topic: Is KonamiofJapan mocking American developers? Order of Shadows needs a REMAKE.

[Saner]

why would they shove a cell phone game project to the American branch?   cause they know the cell phone game will suck and just wanna milk profits off the title.  Maybe Konami of America developers wanted to make a Castlevania
game.  but Konami of Japan was like "okay, but we aren't gonna give you a console-sized or even a DS/PSP-sized budget.  you can just make a cell phone game."

SOOO MUCH POTENTIAL wasted.

IGA seriously should pick up Order of Shadows, give
Desmond a new makeover, give Dolores and Zoe bigger roles,
and the whole story in general more depth as well as
overhauling the gameplay to at least SOTN quality, but with
perhaps Rondo level of difficulty.

but the tragic thing is that Konami is just gonna brush that game under the rug and pretend it never happened.  what a shame.

while its not official timeline material, it still holds a lot of untapped quality in the characters
and concept, even though we have seen the "stop villain from resurrecting Dracula"  before.   

I mean even the subtitle screams awesomeness. 

If only Konami wasn't so cheap as to just toss it out like half-baked material only collectors would be interested in. 
"oh yeah!  My Castlevania collection will be complete with this!"  yeah right, a useless game you won't feel like playing except to prove you played it.   

[Kale]

I wish they'd remake the old ones, into 3d with a good story, but that'll never happen. I havne't played order of shadows but I think I'll avoid it, cellphone games are the fail. Unless its ..... its cartoony, and those usually suck too.

[Profbeanburrito]

Well, look at it from a business point. Castlevania's a popular franchise, especially in the US and for some reason here in America, bad cell phone games sell. I'm sure Konami just saw this as a way to make a few extra bucks and the fact that it is actually a new game and not just a remake makes most fans of the series more eager to actually play it.

Yeah, it would be awesome if the CV team picked it up and actually made it into a full game, but I doubt that'll happen, but you never know.

[shelverton.]

Well, I don't see why Konami of Japan would wanna make the japanese Castlevania-staff unemployed by giving the Castlevania franchise away to america. Do you think the staff would be pleased to hear that they can no longer work on their baby, even if it's only for one or two major installments? IGA could probably sue Konami if they took it away from him, seeing how the series is probably more popular now than ever (except maybe for a short while back in the late 80s). And it's thanks to him, like it or not. He probably has that job for life.

I think there's a whole lot more to game development than just giving away a franchise to different people on the other side of the world. Even if they work for the same company. Especially since the people beind Castlevania seem to focus on Castlevania alone and not much else.

EDIT:
Oh, about Order of Shadows. I wish I could try the damn game, but it's not coming to europe as far as I know.

[Profbeanburrito]

First of all, IGA could not sue Konami over them giving antoher group a Castlevania to work on. CV is owned by Konami and if IGA ever leaves the company it's still owned by Konami.

For Example, the creator of Final Fantasy left Square to start his own company, Mist Walker. He no longer has the Final Fantasy rights, they're owned by Square.

Also, in a recent interview with IGA he mentions that a lot of the work on Dracula X Chronicles was out-sourced to other countries completely.
Lastly, I doubt Konami and Iga really care about Order of Shadows. Its a poorly made cell phone game. It probably took a fraction of the time and resources to make. There's no way thats going to make the CV staff unemployed. Remember, it's still a business first.

[shelverton.]

In Reply To #5

All I'm saying is you don't take away someone's job for no apparent reason, at least not where I'm from. But then again, I don't know much about working conditions in Japan. If IGA fails to live up to whatever Konamis expectations are, then yes, they should probably fire him. But I'm under the impression Konami is rather pleased overall, with the possible exception of the ps2 vanias.

I didn't mean he could literally sue Konami, but there must be some kind of... dunno... "game developers union" or sumthang!

[Long John Silver]

It probably took a fraction of the time and resources to make.

Well seeing that it's so full of rondo/sotn sprite edits and downgraded sotn sprites that probably was the case.

[crisis]

I'm sure they could think of other unique subtitles. They just need to stop using the word of in the middle of everything. "Castlevania: The Cursed Demon" or something odd like that

[Steve]

the series is probably more popular now than ever (except maybe for a short while back in the late 80s). And it's thanks to [Igarashi], like it or not. He probably has that job for life.

Japanese bussinesses are all about "What have you done for me lately?"  Hironobu Sakaguchi put Square on the map with Final Fantasy, but after The Spirits Within cost them hundreds of millions of dollars, leading to Enix buying them out, he was pushed to the sidelines and given little choice but to eventually resign.  The same went for Gunpei Yokoi, the inventor of the Game & Watch and Game Boy, after the Virtual Boy flopped; as well as Ken Kutaragi, the father of the PlayStation and PlayStation 2, once the PS3 began to fail corporate expectations.

So, no, if Igarashi continues to push out duds like Lament, Curse, and Portrait, his position is anything but secure.

[The Last Belmont]

Japanese bussinesses are all about "What have you done for me lately?"

[mgfcortez]

will someone upload the damn thing please
but god of war wasn't all that great on cell phone so maybe OoS isn't too good.
but still like to play it being a castlevania fan:)

[The Clark]

I always thought Yokoi was killed in a car accident and not fired?

He was killed in a car accident about a year after he resigned from his position at Nintendo. He worked on the Wonderswan for Bandai before he died.

[The Last Belmont]

He was killed in a car accident about a year after he resigned from his position at Nintendo. He worked on the Wonderswan for Bandai before he died.

oh okay, yeah metroid just hasn't been the same since he died.

[DoctaMario]

In Reply To #11

Order Of Shadows was better than the God Of War game.

I liked OoS honestly. For a little cell phone game, it's pretty good and kinda fun.

[CVfan13]

I don't even have a cell phone, so I can check it out...    Oh well, I'm probably not missing anything, just frustration...lol