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Not to sound like a weaboo, but I got to agree that a Japanese team would handle the series the best. Based on what I've seen so far, western teams don't really seem to understand what makes Castlevania unique and "cool". When looking at the LoS series in general it all seems so toned down and generic.     

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 To say the truth I have that kind of preference too, I like their ideas. Like all these enemies that come from various cultures and places, even Yeti is there. What I mean is that they know how to put some jokes and stay serious at the same time. Even Pachislot III catchs more my attention than these new console games.
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It's not so much the gags that captivate me, but the Japanese just have a completely different presentation style that I find a lot more interesting for Castlevania and well-suited for Castlevania. This isn't to say I always prefer Japanese stuff for everything. Hardly. I would rather see westerners work on Superman than the Japanese, for example.

Superman as a bishounen? No.
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Based on what I've seen so far, western teams don't really seem to understand what makes Castlevania unique and "cool".
Japanese schoolboys do make Castlecvania cool in their opinion.  ;D

As for me, as long as the game feels like Castlevania to me and the good game to boot, I don't care who is behind the developers's table. Japanese already proved, that they are not always perfect for CV, so the point, that they always will do superrior Castlevania games is invalid.

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It's an opinion. How can that be invalid?

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It's an opinion. How can that be invalid?
It's just Sumac being Sumac.

Also, I'd love a return to more "horror movie" action than "medieval monster hunting" action. This more so because I'm a BIG horror movie fan. One of the things that originally appealed to me with the first CV was how all the classic movie monsters were under one castle, lead by Dracula and you had to go and kill them. And oddly enough, even in the more recent Japanese IGAvanias, they didn't abandon the "horror movie" inspiration thing. Leatherface appearing as the Mad Butcher in OoE is proof of that. That's something I'd see more from the Japanese side of Konami than the western divisions, simply because the West(and it's a broad generalization, there are some teams in the west that love horror) is more stuck on as being as grounded and gritty as possible. We'd never get a nod to Bela Lugosi Dracula in a western CV(PoR was the last JP CV to do that). I'd LOVE to see that sort of CV again, even if it's not historically accurate(Dracula dressed like a socialite from the 1920s in the 1600s, and Frankenstein's monster appearing centuries before the novel takes place).

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What I need the most is the music.

Word. The music seriously needs to get back on track. Castlevania should have music that sounds like this, in my opinion. Complete with 80s sounding drums and synths :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYVEHVbAWEo

Not the empty orchestral sounds going on. Something with real melody that gets you in the mood to fight monsters in gothic environments in high action scenarios :p

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Personally I think that regardless of weather or not Cox stays we're going to be stuck with reboots and new timelines. I hate to say it but I think that we're in the small majority that doesn't like Lord of Shadows as much as other sites. I'm skeptical that Konami will return to the "Real" timeline after Lord of Shadows 2. I don't think that Konami wants to be bogged down by continuity.

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Word. The music seriously needs to get back on track. Castlevania should have music that sounds like this, in my opinion. Complete with 80s sounding drums and synths :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYVEHVbAWEo

Not the empty orchestral sounds going on. Something with real melody that gets you in the mood to fight monsters in gothic environments in high action scenarios :p
Yup, that really sounds like Castlevania.

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So, everything that Japanese developers did was perfect?  ;)

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Word. The music seriously needs to get back on track. Castlevania should have music that sounds like this, in my opinion. Complete with 80s sounding drums and synths :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYVEHVbAWEo

Not the empty orchestral sounds going on. Something with real melody that gets you in the mood to fight monsters in gothic environments in high action scenarios :p
Thanks for the support! I agree with what you say, it just can't be Castlevania for me without the music.
By the way, I love Malice Mizer!!! Their music is so Castlevania-ish!!!

Yup, that really sounds like Castlevania.
Totally!!!

Not to sound like a weaboo, but I got to agree that a Japanese team would handle the series the best. Based on what I've seen so far, western teams don't really seem to understand what makes Castlevania unique and "cool". When looking at the LoS series in general it all seems so toned down and generic.
Totally agree, so far, only japanese seem to get it.
I'm not talking about IGA, I'm talking about every single Castlevania game from 1986 to 2010.

Personally I think that regardless of weather or not Cox stays we're going to be stuck with reboots and new timelines. I hate to say it but I think that we're in the small majority that doesn't like Lord of Shadows as much as other sites. I'm skeptical that Konami will return to the "Real" timeline after Lord of Shadows 2. I don't think that Konami wants to be bogged down by continuity.
That's what I am really afraid of. I wish that if it won't be developed by a japanese team and it will be a reboot, at least it is a reboot by a team who understand Castlevania. WayForward are confessed fans of the saga.

To say the truth I have that kind of preference too, I like their ideas. Like all these enemies that come from various cultures and places, even Yeti is there. What I mean is that they know how to put some jokes and stay serious at the same time. Even Pachislot III catchs more my attention than these new console games.
Yes, that pretty much sums up what I think. I was more interested in seeing the videos of the Pachislot games, and especially listening the their soundtracks, since they are awesome, than in playing the 20+ hours that LoS took me to finish it; and of course, I never listened to the soundtrack when not playing the game, because I personally find it totally boring and uninspired; just my personal taste, of course, but I can't find anything likeable or emotional in there. Music from varied CV games, like Bloodlines, OoE or CV3 contains emotional and powerful tracks (in fact, all CV games contain several tracks like that, which capture what to me is the spirit of the saga). Even orchestral tracks by Michiru Yamane for Lament of Innocence contained that feeling. But that isn't the case so far in the MS games.
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