Topic: News: Dave Cox about continuing LoS after 2: My head says no, my heart yes

[angevil]

My opinion is that Japanese studios are much better at making interesting games that have something special about them. I look at Castlevania and I look at Silent Hill. Japan did amazing things with these games, while Western studios cant follow that. Some games should just be kept being made where they know how to make them!

And dont get me started with the arguments about LOS. This is not a Castlevania game, it just has its name. Cox/MS desecrated the famous franchise with their ″reimagining″ of everything, now they are using characters, their names, some of the elements from CV and want it to be a new Castlevania. Well, they go xxxx xxxxxxxxx!!!! It is all about money, politics inside Konami...Castlevania is dead and this is a reality. Some of you accepted this new thing, and good for you if you enjoy it. It might even be a good game if it wasn`t trying to be what it`s not.

Of course, I want IGA, Ayami Kojima and Michiru Yamane to work together again, maybe include other artists as well. If they are not available, I would then give a chance to another Japanese studio to work on it. Not f***ing West! I live in Europe, yes, but CV should be made in Japan! That`s my opinion based on experience, and right now don`t feel the need to go into details, even more because I see that many of you already covered what`s wrong with MS LOS games.

Castlevania RIP (if only Cox would let it rest in peace! Just sad......................)

[Akuma]

LoS series was originally going to be an individual IP(until someone from Konami stepped in).  You can't judge much on a developer that hasn't made much to begin with.

[Shiroi Koumori]

LoS series was originally going to be an individual IP(until someone from Konami stepped in). 

Hideo Kojima was the one who stepped in and told MS that their game looks like a Castlevania title.

When I was seven my bro put dracula's curse into the nes and it was a starting point to where am I now. Skip to 1998/9 to cv64 and I stopped being a fan that dang chainsaw man scared me for a while and still does to this day. Now skip to high school and around the time portrait of ruin IIRC and I fell in love with cv again it was a nice birthday present and afterwards I wanted to hunt down all cv games. For the most part I found all the gba titles in the span of four years but something happened afterwards. I started to slowly but surely play the classics, now I have most of the games. The ones that I am missing are belmonts revenge, legends, that haunted castle (but it's an arcade cabinet would rather have a snk on to be honest), kid dracula, and vampire killer. Now fast foward to right now and in the end despite being brought back into the series by MV's I would really a classicvania game from our generation no remakes or rebirth but a full blown classic. The reason will be revealed later since I'm to tried but, I want to state it none the less. But I will say that I am a classics fans.

The nostalgia factor is strong in our generation. I would agree that it is amazing if we have a classic, but with the situation in the industry right now, I hardly think it is possible. I might be a tad pessimistic but that is how I view reality.

Here's a little haiku I thought of at the moment.
Reboots and remakes,
playing with the toys of old,
when will we move on?

[Maedhros]

If reboots are well made, why the hell would be anyone complain? It is really hard to understand that people has different expectations, so when something that they don't like is out, they'll complain?

They're not wrong at all. It's not nostalgia, people will always use comparisons to make their point.

[Rudolph LagnaGaisaer]

And I've just realized: all of them they are excellent Castlevania games made by westerners!

Here's to Konami letting the next CV to fans (as I always say: we can dream, can't we?).

# 1 - completing the argument, they are real Fan westerners not game studios that are blind by money,.and this is  what actually makes their game cool.

# 2 - if konami give it to a studio that respect the fan´s and not the money i will be very glad with it.

[Shiroi Koumori]

If reboots are well made, why the hell would be anyone complain?

That is a rare instance and no one would complain if the reboot was good.
But usually, reboots are not that well made.
I would rather have a new game than a reboot that sucks.

[Kingshango]

Developers (and film makers) are so caught up with unnecessary reboots that they ignore series that are actually in need of one, like God of War or Kingdom Hearts.

[Shiroi Koumori]

Developers (and film makers) are so caught up with unnecessary reboots that they ignore series that are actually in need of one, like God of War or Kingdom Hearts.

Ah... maybe it is not yet their time. Sometime in the future, those series would also face the forge of reboot.

[Kingshango]

You know what developers should do instead? How bout reboot or remake games that deserves a second chance. Like what happened with XIII or Advent Rising or Psi Ops and The Suffering? Those games were either mild successes or total flops but had great potential that could be reached if they were remade today.

Like where's The Mark of Kri, Syphon Filter (you would think that this would have gotten a current gen installment at least), Primal or Maximo, those are just games that came out in the last 10 years or so. There are sooo many developers just sitting on these IP's and doing nothing but rehashing or doing unnecessary reboots.

[DragonSlayr81]

Ah... maybe it is not yet their time. Sometime in the future, those series would also face the forge of reboot.

I actually agree with the rebooting of GoW, as well as that one person who said they should explore other cultural mythology and their "Gods of War"(don't know if it was months ago on these forums, on GameFAQs or another forum altogether). Someone once brought up who they should do a Norse themed "God of War" with Vikings, Odin, traveling between the Yggsdrasil and the various realms, kiling giants and trolls, battling Fenrir and Jormungandr and such. THAT would be awesome. I also heard someone mention an Egyptian themed GoW. I'd welcome all that stuff over yet another milking of "The Kratos Story".

[Dremn]

Sounds like Mercury Steam is already in talks about possibly continuing Castlevania even after LoS.

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2013/03/08/dracula-bites-back-mercurysteam-boss-dave-cox-on-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-mirror-of-fate-and-lords-of-shadow-2/

Multiplayer: Will we see these characters again, in other games or even comics or some other media?

Cox: Yeah, yeah, it depends. You have this responsibility as a producer to carry the torch of “Castlevania” and you always hope what you do is successful enough to let you do more. You can’t take that for granted, you can only get one opportunity. At the same time, we want to do other things. But as long as people keep enjoying the games and buying them, we’ll continue to do it. Whether that’s in the Castlevania universe or somewhere else.

[crisis]

I wouldn't mind if MS continues to make more Castlevania games, as long as they get the music more in tune with the series (hell, even bring back Yamane to compose a few tunes), add more depth to the enemies, cut back on the QTEs and on-screen prompts, and everything would be gravy. I love the look of MoF; I just wish it had a little more beef to it's bones. Another 2.5D 3DS game with all these things would be great. It doesn't even have to be in the "LoS universe," a canon game with the visuals of MoF and traditional music/unique enemies/no QTEs would be pretty sweet.

[Ahasverus]

Sounds like Mercury Steam is already in talks about possibly continuing Castlevania even after LoS.

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2013/03/08/dracula-bites-back-mercurysteam-boss-dave-cox-on-castlevania-lords-of-shadow-mirror-of-fate-and-lords-of-shadow-2/

Great, I need this

[Dremn]

I really do think we're at a point in Castlevania's history again where it's dejavu for the Classicvania fans when SotN became the norm. Now everyone is feeling the burn from LoS becoming the new face of the series.

I really hope MoF doesn't turn out to just be a lucky break for MS, I want to see future games get better and better as they go on if they do decide to continue beyond LoS2. Otherwise, more Classicvanias would be nice. I'll never object to that notion.

[Nagumo]

No burn that I'm aware of if MS is leaving the franchise after LoS2. Though it would be a double burn if they decide to stick around after giving false hope to people who don't like the current direction.