Topic: Castlevania: LoS - Mirror of Fate (SPOILER DISCUSSION)

[Shiroi Koumori]

Having just finished this game, I have to say I really enjoyed it. Just wish it was longer.

Only thing I'm miffed about is how Simon seemed like such a side-character. I mean, they made Trevor into a total badass, but Simon just seemed like Trevor's derpy son that only got in the way during the final battle.

I just wish they would make a mirror of fate 2 where Simon really gets a chance to shine. Too bad he's already 36 in this timeline.

There won't be any MoF2 since Cox said the LOS is a trilogy ending in LOS2.
Unless he is lying, again....

[Nagumo]

Simon's presence just seems pointless in this game. They just should have made Trevor/Alucard the main character. I'm kind off suprised Simon is so unrelevant though, I figured all the MercurySteam people would have a massive man crush on him because his name is Simon and stuff.   

[flyingchai]

Simon was hardly irrelevant. He was the one that staked Dracula and it is through him that the Belmont lineage will continue.

[Shiroi Koumori]

I think they just used Simon because he is the star of the first game. Plus a massive man crush can't be too far away.

As for the game plot, they just wanted Trevorcard and Gabula to feel even worse buy adding the grandson to the mix. Poor Simon, the most iconic Castlevania character, reduced to a plot piece....

[Thomas Belmont]

Simon was hardly irrelevant. He was the one that staked Dracula and it is through him that the Belmont lineage will continue.

Yeah, after Trevor/Alucard basically did all the work. It's ludicrous how they mistreated Simon! And it doesn't even explain why Simon had to be the one to stake him. If Alucard wasn't Trevor in this canon, I would have been extremely pissed! However, I love Trevor, just as I do Simon. In this game/universe, it makes sense that Trevor's son wouldn't be as powerful as Trevor, since he wasn't trained by the Brotherhood. So in that case, they should have made Trevor's son a new Belmont, and not Simon.

[Johnny Alucard]

I fear Simon will get similar treatment in LoS2.

It's a shame since I actually quite like his design and Scottish accent.

[e105beta]

Also, this has to be the most tragic Castlevania I've ever played.

Trevor is definitely a more tragic character than both of his main canon counterparts, and at least on par with Gabriel. I mean, in almost every scene he was in (Alucard or Trevor) he just gave off the vibe of an anguished character that had been royally dicked over. What made it even more impactful is that he doesn't give into it like his father.

Simon just has typical vengeful orphan syndrome, but the fact that his father still "lives" and he has no idea just makes it that much worse.

And I felt genuinely bad for Dracula at the end of Act 3. That's got to suck.

[Akuma]

Simon: One oblivious to fate

Trevor/Alucard: One who fights against fate

Gabriel/Dracul: One who accepts fate

[Neobelmont]

Simon: One oblivious to fate

Trevor/Alucard: One who fights against fate

Gabriel/Dracul: One who accepts fate

This right here, some very philosophical stuff ... I like it 

Just beat the game a couple minutes ago and I'll say out of all the gaming heros the Belmonts are the only ones to get screwed and while it's unique, it's just messed up.

 Also I doubt now that grant is going to be in the LoS verse that scroll 

Now I need to get 100%(I'm at 88 right now). Then play it on hardcore mode.

[Akuma]

Only one to get any closure is Simon really.

If you read on the CC it says it's holy attributes is hugely diminished.  Which my explain Dracula's evident survival.

Still wondering how Trevor lost unless Gabby was able to pull a turn around last minute.

[Lelygax]

Maybe they have hid this scene on purpose to show in a LOS Collection, that comes with MoF in HD, all DLCs and more cutscenes... >.>

[Dremn]

Honestly, I think they only put Simon in to please long time fans. Which I don't mind at all. The whole game seems entirely focused on Trevor/Alucard more than Simon, and I doubt Simon will be in LoS2. I wouldn't be surprised if Richter and Julius show up with Alucard though.

And I felt genuinely bad for Dracula at the end of Act 3. That's got to suck.

LoS has the freaking best incarnation of Dracula in my opinion, it's just a shame his origin was ham-fisted in the LoS DLC.

[Akuma]

Maybe we can play out the same fight through Dracula's eyes in LoS2 via flashback.

[Black Cat]

Hm, it'd probably be a better idea to simply leave it at a cinematic flashback. I can't imagine that going over well with people who shelled out for the DLC.

[darkwzrd4]

It all looks great, but I do have one problem with the LoS universe: the enemies take too long to kill. In the old cannon, enemies would die after 4 hits at most. Especially the skeletons. Of course, with the exception of bosses and mini-bosses.
In this universe, it takes what seems like 10 hits to kill even the weakest enemies.

On another note, MoF fails when it comes to sub-weapons (at least as far as I've seen). Simons axe is slow and doesn't do anything. In the old cannon, the axe was relatively quick and powerful making it one of the most useful sub-weapons second only to the cross/boomerang. Even LoS one had better sub-weapons. Though I admit the holy water seemed a bit overpowered.