Topic: On the LoS series

[Lelygax]

It's more like an opposite to the "moved on". I don't see a point to invest so much into fictional universes. They come and go, have they high and lows. Those should be expected and not taking as the tragedy.

Well, its not only fictional universes, for some people they are hobbies if its a franchise, like golf or any other hobby. For someone that loves golf and learn that they will close his preferred circuit its kinda heart breaking. Injuries heal with the time, but some of them leave scars.

[uzo]

Well, its not only fictional universes, for some people they are hobbies if its a franchise, like golf or any other hobby. For someone that loves golf and learn that they will close his preferred circuit its kinda heart breaking. Injuries heal with the time, but some of them leave scars.

That's actually a terrific analogy. Well put.

[Lelygax]

Thanks uzo.

[Successor The Cruel]

It's more like an opposite to the "moved on". I don't see a point to invest so much into fictional universes. They come and go, have they high and lows. Those should be expected and not taking as the tragedy.

So not really caring is the opposite of moving on? Hmm...

You seem to invest a lot into your arguments. If you didn't, you wouldn't spend the time continuously having them. I, personally, find that even more pointless than investing into a fictional universe that you like (which I don't find pointless at all), because I doubt you've changed even one person's mind with them.

[Pfil]

There's nothing wrong on investing one's soul into a hobbie.
And if that hobbie happens to be a VG franchise, then so be it.
Lelygax analogy with golf was perfect.

Imagine how a sports fan feels if they know their team will dissapear?
Well, I am a bit of a sports fan, and I like to do other things, like watching movies and anime, but if I had to choose for all of them but one to dissapear, I'd choose that only CV remains.

That's how important CV is to me.
A fictional universe can be sometimes the only ease to pain.

Like I said on another post, since OoE I feel like I lost my first love.
Only very passionate and invested people can understand that. From a logical point of view there's no way of putting it into words.

[Rudolph LagnaGaisaer]

the world changes, and with it all that exists. Castlevania,our hobbie, is not a exception. and is the way that people accept changes that make the difference. i must admit i don´t like LoS(i don´t call it Castlevania). but with LoS:MoF the MS have proved to me that they can actually make castlevania games.

That's how important CV is to me.
A fictional universe can be sometimes the only ease to pain.

Like I said on another post, since OoE I feel like I lost my first love.
Only very passionate and invested people can understand that. From a logical point of view there's no way of putting it into words.

# 1 - this or using drug´s
# 2 - don´t be so exaggerated, OoE was a game made without plans, if they have made OoE in other console and with more 6 or 8 month´s of hard spent scripting, OoE could beat SoTN by far(See DXC engine for a example). and yes there is no way to explain love for something in word´s.

[Pfil]

Mario never changed and I see Mario fans really happy with it.
Of course, Nintendo is one exceptional company. And with exceptional I mean what it means in the dictionary.

OoE is my favourite 2nd CV ever.
What I meant is that ever since I finished OoE I'm waiting for my love to return to me.
I'm starting to sound like a drama queen

[Lelygax]

So that makes me a drama king/lord, I've been so dramatic that I doesnt know how someone didn't bashed me yet.

[Rugal]

Once again, I ask the question, that was dodged several times already - Platinum Games maybe make an awesome action, with lots of cinematographic action and crazy effects, but is it capable to create a good Castlevania?
I am saying this because Castlevania from them, most likely, will be what Twins Snakes to the original Metal Gear Solid - lots of bullet time and the like. The question is will it all fit to the Castlevania game, better than what LOS did? I am afraid, that Castlevania from them will compared to the chinese action movies with "wire-fu" and it will create another shitstorm about "Castlevania identity" and what should be and should not be in the series.
It's more like an opposite to the "moved on". I don't see a point to invest so much into fictional universes. They come and go, have they high and lows. Those should be expected and not taking as the tragedy.

First of all, good question. However, I'd like to know why you think that a Castlevania game by Platinum would have Twin Snakes syndrome? Did they work on that game?

Anyway, this is MY perfect scenario for a new CV game: Get rid of David Cox and never let him or his team get their hands on it ever again. Secondly, get IGA, Michiru Yamane and some of the other composers back on board. Team IGA up with Platinum. Say what you want about IGA, but that man has a very long history with Castlevania now and can provide Platinum games with a direction, much like Hideo Kojima did with Metal Gear Rising. IGA knows what fans would like to see in Castlevania games and always pays homage to even the classic CV games in all his games.

With Platinum handling the gameplay aspect and IGA/Yamane handling everything else, I think we'd have the perfect savior Castlevania game. Never forget that Lords of Shit was never even supposed to be a Castlevania game anyway and they just slapped our beloved Castlevania title on there half way through development. I wouldn't even have a problem with LoS if it wasn't called Castlevania, but they went ahead and took advantage of the Castlevania name.

[Rudolph LagnaGaisaer]

Mario never changed and I see Mario fans really happy with it.
Of course, Nintendo is one exceptional company. And with exceptional I mean what it means in the dictionary.

I'm starting to sound like a drama queen

# 1- Mario changed so many times that i have lost my numbers but Mario changed in a way better than Castlevania.
# 2- the Nitendo don´t make games only the consoles. don´t get confused anymore. Nitendo to me is similar to a boy that never grew even if pass 100 year´s. not sounding rude but it´s the truth.
# 3- You are not starting.you are a drama queen.girl,in which school you have learned ? are you a actress ?

[Flame]

Get rid of David Cox and never let him or his team get their hands on it ever again. Secondly, get IGA,

Stopped reading there- You don't need to be a dick about it. And quite frankly, im tired of IGA.

I know I know, your opinion. well thats my opinion of your opinion.

IGA knows what fans would like to see in Castlevania games and always pays homage to even the classic CV games in all his games.

Does he? I never asked for the saturday morning anime artstyle in DoS and PoR, or the gimmick driven gameplay he insists on, or the monotonousness of LoI and CoD.

 Also, yes. he does pay homage. So did MS though, but people overlook that. and IMO, reusing rondo sprites and SoTN assets isnt homage.

Never forget that Lords of Shit

wow what an ass.

was never even supposed to be a Castlevania game anyway and they just slapped our beloved Castlevania title on there half way through development.

aaaand confirmed for troll.

And somehow, Sumac gets the bad rap...

[Rudolph LagnaGaisaer]

hey man Calm down i know that the first LoS Deceptioned, but MoF changed a lot and shows that MS still have chance to make a Good Cv Game.you can get your fingers burned man. don´t do unthinking opinion´s until have certain sure of them

[Pfil]

# 1- Mario changed so many times that i have lost my numbers but Mario changed in a way better than Castlevania.
# 2- the Nitendo don´t make games only the consoles. don´t get confused anymore. Nitendo to me is similar to a boy that never grew even if pass 100 year´s. not sounding rude but it´s the truth.
# 3- You are not starting.you are a drama queen.girl,in which school you have learned ? are you a actress ?

Haha! 
I meant that 2D Mario never changed.
And 3D Mario games were always kind of similar.
I'm not a Mario fan, but I play them anyway. Mario fans are really happy, they get like 10 Mario games each generation!

[Darkson]

To be fair, say what you will about Mario, but the gameplay is always finely tuned. What really hurt iga and his castlevanias later on was how unpolished the combat and other gameplay elements felt. After a while, it just felt like he was trying to cover them up with various gimmicks such as the soul system or union, or such.

Playing mario doesn't really get tedious for me, for it is always a thrill to play. Castlevania on the other hand....needs a few breaks to get through it.

[Pfil]

But I'm defending that aspect of Mario games. That they never changed it. That's why I respect Nintendo, because they never betrayed their saga.

I personally find Mario too childish for my tastes, but I recognize they are excellent games, and play them anyway because the gameplay is fun.
I was not attacking Mario, but rather putting it as a good example of how a company must take its saga, doing what they always did and never changing the core of it.

You can play the latest 2D Mario, or the oldest one; and at its core, they are the same.
And that's a good thing.

That's why I used the Mario example.