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« Reply #75 on: March 16, 2013, 02:41:19 AM »
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I would love me some vanillaware 2d cv. I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here -_-'
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« Reply #76 on: March 16, 2013, 02:45:41 AM »
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I too wanted to see how IGA would continue the evolution of the series, but still I'm waiting.
He continued. He made the worst and the laziest game ever. Judgment and Despair. While I wish his departure was a little more.. decorous, I can't blame Konami for doubing him.
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« Reply #77 on: March 16, 2013, 03:09:36 AM »
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Judgement isn't lazy (apart from Time Reaper, but atleast they didn't do copypasta like in the other games), Despair is (atleast they did some new sprites for Julius, but I've doubts that they didn't have been draw when DoS has been produced)
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« Reply #78 on: March 16, 2013, 03:13:08 AM »
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Judgement isn't lazy (apart from Time Reaper, but atleast they didn't do copypasta like in the other games), Despair is (atleast they did some new sprites for Julius, but I've doubts that they didn't have been draw when DoS has been produced)
Despair is lazy, Judgment is bad :P

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« Reply #79 on: March 16, 2013, 03:18:29 AM »
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At least judgment gave us Sypha and her sacred gifts  ;D

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« Reply #80 on: March 16, 2013, 03:34:55 AM »
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At least judgment gave us Sypha and her sacred gifts  ;D

Love saying that.
Why are hers so bigger than mine?

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« Reply #81 on: March 16, 2013, 03:51:29 AM »
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Why are hers so bigger than mine?

I would hope so  :P
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« Reply #82 on: March 16, 2013, 03:59:55 AM »
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Why are hers so bigger than mine?

Because the devs love Sypha more than you? hehehe.
Well, they got Rondo's Maria so she really is young at that time.

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« Reply #83 on: March 16, 2013, 06:00:07 AM »
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Sypha's are bigger than anyone's :P

As much as I kinda like despise everything, I have to give you that. Despair is lazy, and Judgment is not what I want in CV.

What I meant is that I wanted to see how the next MetroidVania would have come out, after OoE did so many things in the right direction.
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« Reply #84 on: March 16, 2013, 06:14:49 AM »
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What I meant is that I wanted to see how the next MetroidVania would have come out, after OoE did so many things in the right direction.

We want a new Metroidvania. Will our wish be granted by the powers that be?

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« Reply #85 on: March 16, 2013, 06:22:10 AM »
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Honestly? I'm willing to bet he just got lucky with OoE. The right combination of a GOOD visual style, and a NON-INTRUSIVE gimmick, which makes the weapons gameplay similar to the SoTN format of different weapons. And an alright story because there was a large gap that there was no issue tossing something in there, which happened to make sense. It's not that IGA can't make good Castlevania games, it's just that A) he sucks at sequels, B) his gimmick driven development process, (gimmick first, story later) tends to bite his games in the ass, and C) his constant reuse of SC4, Rondo and SoTN Assets gets old real fast. (directly ripping the save room from SoTN for HoD is completely unforgivable)

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(apart from Time Reaper, but atleast they didn't do copypasta like in the other games)
Still ridiculously lazy. And completely strange and out of place, too, considering up till that point, everything else is original, from scratch, yet for some reason, it's like they got to the Time reaper, and IGA just suddenly got a compulsive need to reuse an asset.

But you know, those aren't even the reasons I don't want him back. (Though they factor in)

It's that he has had his run, and we don't need more of the same. It's time to move on from the IGA era, and get different people involved. Different points of view, different ideas, different visions.
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« Reply #86 on: March 16, 2013, 09:35:20 AM »
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Who is in for a new full MetroidVania developed by another studio?
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« Reply #87 on: March 16, 2013, 10:31:18 AM »
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He continued. He made the worst and the laziest game ever. Judgment and Despair. While I wish his departure was a little more.. decorous, I can't blame Konami for doubing him.

They doubt him? You're kidding, right? Judgment may have flopped but Despair (of all games) was a huge success. It's one of the highest selling games on PSN.

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« Reply #88 on: March 16, 2013, 01:59:00 PM »
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You seem to invest a lot into your arguments. If you didn't, you wouldn't spend the time continuously having them. I, personally, find that even more pointless than investing into a fictional universe that you like (which I don't find pointless at all), because I doubt you've changed even one person's mind with them.
Changing minds was never my objective. Making people think - that what I am trying to do.
I don't see point in investing yourself into fictional reality to the point you feel yourself utterly devastated by its changing. Considering, that you personally can't do anything about changes in the series, unfavourable changes are expected from time to time. There is something: you must understand what you can and what you can't change and react accordingly.

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Only very passionate and invested people can understand that. From a logical point of view there's no way of putting it into words.
I am passionate person, but I am striving to understand, that sometimes all my passion is useless to change things and there is no point to completely invest everything in fiction. As long as it's not my fiction.

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First of all, good question. However, I'd like to know why you think that a Castlevania game by Platinum would have Twin Snakes syndrome? Did they work on that game?
As far as I know, all their games make spectacular use of over the top effects, that could be compared to the MGS treatment by Kitamura.

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Team IGA up with Platinum. Say what you want about IGA, but that man has a very long history with Castlevania now
It doesn't mean, that it was a good history.

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Never forget that Lords of Shit was never even supposed to be a Castlevania game anyway
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They can make a CV1 clone every year with new stages and music and everyone would be happy, I think.
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No, its not. IGA isnt dead.
It is too late. IGA's work was heavily compromised by cloning, useless gimmicks and general absence of creativity and polish. OOE was step in the right direction, but it was only right step after series of stumbles and it was not enough to salvage "metroidvania" direction.

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« Reply #89 on: March 16, 2013, 03:37:34 PM »
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Who is in for a new full MetroidVania developed by another studio?

I'd love to see WayForward tackle this. But I'd also want to see them produce a Classicvania as well.
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