Topic: The Architect

[crisis]

In 1797 Alucard states that the "castle is a creature of Chaos; it may take on many incarnations." We know this as fact, since no castle in the series has ever taken the same shape (with some exceptions). It can be argued that the 1999 castle will look similar if not identical to the torn, half-destroyed castle we see in 2035 (but for the sake of gameplay purposes, I certainly hope not!).

I guess my question is, how did the castle come to be? We know that some form of it existed before Dracula became ruler (as seen in 1094). Dracula excels in black magic & can create monsters, but are his powers also responsible for the ever-changed Demon Castle? I don't think so, since the castle can still exist without him even after Dracula has been "sent to the Abyss". Who writes the rules for the castle's state of being?

We see characters such as the Librarian, who obviously has a history with Dracula & his son, & seems to know the exact purpose of the Demon Castle's existance. Wouldn't it be interesting if he had some role to play in it's creation?.. I would hope so, but isn't likely since we've only seen him once. Maybe St. Germain will clear things up.

I'm aware that there are essentially 2 castles (as stated by Graham, and others). But we still are left with many questions as to the grand design. Death could be the almighty architect.. is this a fair assumption, or am I just grabbing at straws..

Thoughts, comments, criticisms?

[Kale]

I don't know about how it is in the game, but some of the stuff I thought up for a fan fic if I ever write one, all i do are outlines.

Mine is, its just a demon who changes forms each time it disappears with Dracula.

[Azmodan]

This is my own pure hunch, but I wonder if the Devil Forgemasters had anything to do with it. It is a creature...

[Blue Cheese]

I always just saw it has an earthly castle that has been infected and twisted by Dracula's influence. Like his very presence can spread evil like a sentient cancer engulfing and ultimately changing anything he owns into an extension of his own dark will.

[Aridale]

I always just saw it has an earthly castle that has been infected and twisted by Dracula's influence. Like his very presence can spread evil like a sentient cancer engulfing and ultimately changing anything he owns into an extension of his own dark will.

I agree. Thats how I feel about it too. Ive never liked the whole "creature of chaos" thing IGA came up with to try to explain it like the castle itself is alive...

[AlexCalvo]

Think of it less like an organism and more like the house in The Haunting.  It's warped by all the evil and souls in it.  It doesn't have a pulse and organs. 

[ProtoBelmont]

I agree. Thats how I feel about it too. Ive never liked the whole "creature of chaos" thing IGA came up with to try to explain it like the castle itself is alive...

Agreed third'ed. I like to think that there is a limitation in his abilities to just morph a brand spanking new castle, with this creature of chaos.

Imagining that Dracula would take over a castle in which many people have lost their lives from wars, been tortured, had pageants, good times, and generally lived by... is more satisfying to me. It adds that haunting human element and gives me a feeling of melancholy of what the place has now turned into. :0

[Kale]

Oh I don't know... the creature of chaos idea doesn't sound too bad after you play FF9, and how they implemented Alexander.

[Dark Nemesis]

I think it's more something like the Lea Monde from Vagrant Story.Lea Monde's walls they were having some ancient letters that they were giving them the ability to devour the souls of the dead and make them living walls with dark powers.Also every time there was an earthquake the place was changing shape.So mu point is that the same hapens with the Draculas castle.It is infused with the souls of the people and demons that they have die inside it and every time that it appears a part of the souls that are trapped inside his walls are giving it the shape it has while it's resurrected.So the castle takes his form according to the souls it has devoured.That's why it has so many shapes.

[Donvermicelli]

I got a nice theory made up from observations and own fiction.
Things that are stated in the game itself:

-There are 2 castles
-The casle(s) are alive
-Chaos is the source of dracula's power

Wel I was thinking when I played through all of the games that some area's looked familliar to real life places.Also, Dracula must have gotten his powers from somewhere.

What if: Chaos is the devil(or a demon that feeds on despair and such) and empowered Dracula so that he could cause those things. Then the castle was made by the creature by sucking up (or recreating) places such as the big ben, aquaducts and so on. And the fact that the castle is alive means simply that it is infused with chaos his power so that the castle can change in order to resurrect and protect it's master.

What do you think?

[Omegasigma]

but one thing stays the same, who ever raises the castle is destroyed the castle falls, however this isn;t the case apparently in rondo, where shaft msut of revived the castle, the castle takes the the form of its lord, thats why it changes, since dracula is suusally 99% its lord, he would in turn change the castle against the belmonts ever making a map of the castle from memory

[DragonSlayr81]

Think of it less like an organism and more like the house in The Haunting.  It's warped by all the evil and souls in it.  It doesn't have a pulse and organs. 

There's a similar haunted house in Stephen King's Rose Red, which seemingly grows by itself. One day, the caretaker would count one-hundred and something rooms, and the next day, ten more rooms would be added to the house. I think Castlevania is a bit of both "creature" and "haunted dwelling". I see it like the ship in Event Horizon. It's alive, but not like a biological creature. It's a thing of pure evil. I think it draws it's power from Chaos itself(like Dracula), and Chaos is unstable and everchanging. Dracula reigns over the castle, no-less, but even without Dracula, if by some means it is cojured forth, it can still change to a new form. I think it's much like Dracula himself, who also changes his appearance with each resurrection. The castle, when conjured(either by Dracula's resurrection or another evil source), changes and stands as if it's to welcome Dracula himself, and almost every time, Dracula DOES return to it's keep.

[cecil-kain]

In 1797 Alucard states that the "castle is a creature of Chaos; it may take on many incarnations." We know this as fact, since no castle in the series has ever taken the same shape (with some exceptions). It can be argued that the 1999 castle will look similar if not identical to the torn, half-destroyed castle we see in 2035 (but for the sake of gameplay purposes, I certainly hope not!).

I guess my question is, how did the castle come to be? We know that some form of it existed before Dracula became ruler (as seen in 1094). Dracula excels in black magic & can create monsters, but are his powers also responsible for the ever-changed Demon Castle? I don't think so, since the castle can still exist without him even after Dracula has been "sent to the Abyss". Who writes the rules for the castle's state of being?

We see characters such as the Librarian, who obviously has a history with Dracula & his son, & seems to know the exact purpose of the Demon Castle's existance. Wouldn't it be interesting if he had some role to play in it's creation?.. I would hope so, but isn't likely since we've only seen him once. Maybe St. Germain will clear things up.

I'm aware that there are essentially 2 castles (as stated by Graham, and others). But we still are left with many questions as to the grand design. Death could be the almighty architect.. is this a fair assumption, or am I just grabbing at straws..

Thoughts, comments, criticisms?

Good Topic.  I think there's a connection between Dracula's ascension to the Dark Lord and his Creature of Chaos.  I do not believe Walter was the Dark Lord.  I do not believe Mathias becomes the Dark Lord by defeating Walter.  I do not believe Walter's Castle was THE Demon Castle.  I believe Mathias became the Dark Lord during the centuries between Lament and Dracula's Curse.  I also believe the implications made throughout the series point to a more demonic or even satanic ascension.  So with that said -how does a lowly newborn vampire assume absolute mastery over of all demons?  A deal with the Devil? Meh.  Did he go around enslaving demons left and right with a magic Stone?  Perhaps...  More likely than not, Mathias used the Crimson Stone as a weapon to defeat the reigning Dark Lord of his era.  Seeing as how the Dark Lord is the "opposite to God" I would suspect a more divine source...  We could say that Dark Lord was Chaos, Galamoth, or even Satan himself --I personally like Galamoth...

So in my view Galamoth was the original owner of the Demon Castle --Mathias simply destroyed him and inherited his property.  I ultimately see the Castle as a metaphor for Hell's throne.  Take the Twin Castles issue for example...  Whenever we beat a Castlevania game, the Castle crumbles.  Much like a soul leaves the body and the body rots --same thing here.  Remember Death said in Harmony the Castle has "2 layers" In my opinion, that would be the supernatural layer (located in Hell) and the earthly layer (that the Belmonts typically visit)  When Dracula falls, the Earthly Castle crumbles, while the true Demon Castle remains untarnished in Hell --awaiting the next resurrection.

[X]

I always just saw it has an earthly castle that has been infected and twisted by Dracula's influence. Like his very presence can spread evil like a sentient cancer engulfing and ultimately changing anything he owns into an extension of his own dark will.

I fourth this. While I think that the creature of chaos is a reasonable explanation, it just leaves it hanging out there for us to fill in the blank of what it is exactly. I personally feel that Dracula used his very powers to craft and twist one of his old castles into a hellhouse of supernatural demonism. For me, Castlevania was born along side Dracula; not before.

-X

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

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