Topic: Konami: "Taking risks with CV prevented it from becoming another Megaman"

[crisis]

Concerning the Belmont-relation-lineage-Sonia-retcon stuff:

At first I wasn't really a fan of the idea of the Belmonts having vampiric origins. It took away from the whole "Holy warrior(s) battling the worst of evil," so corrupting them with Vampirism was a bad idea in my mind and sullied the "tradition." Also, the fact that Legends plays out like the typical 90s anime of "forbidden love," and I know the game doesn't outright say that, but it alludes or subtly implies that Alucard and Sonia had a brief "fling" before she goes on to fight Dracula, thus resulting in Trevor and the Belmont's apparent superhuman capabilities.

Now with LoS, all the Belmonts are essentially "Alucards" that must defeat their great-great grandad because of their lineage. Dracula even says, referring to Simon, that "He is a Belmont. I cannot allow that bloodline to suffer any longer!" This struck me a certain way, because it shows Dracula/Gabriel might still have some remorse left in him. It's the "tragic irony, or poetic justice" scenario that's got me intruiged, which lead me to kinda understand Legends' approach despite all it's other flaws, and to understand those fans' reasoning for accepting that particular origin tale. Don't get me wrong, I also like the LoI origin for the "blood feud;" the idea of "Dracula in a prior life was comrades with a Belmont before things went sour" approach. I've learned to accept both origin tales, as it offers variety to the Castlevania brand. There are people that like "Elseworlds" stories; alternate beginnings/ideas to pre-established characters. Those familiar with comic books know exactly how this works. For instance, people may know Galactus as an ageless devourer of worlds. In a certain Elseworlds take, he became a RESTORER of destroyed worlds. It's just a different take, some find it interesting, others don't. But that's why we need variety, so people can discuss, compare and contrast the similarities and differences. This is what brings out some good discussions (so long as they don't turn into childish "THAT SOUNDS STUPID THERE'S ONLY 1 WAY TO DO IT ALL THE OTHERS SUCK" debates). Many people contribute ideas to three Castlevania brand, and as such, we should expect these varying origins. We don't have to always like what they come up with, but we don't always have to needlessly hate it either. Some may come off as more "fan-fictiony" than others, but it just is what it is

Perhaps the next "alternate" take would just use the original historical Vlad and have a disillusioned Belmont general from his royal guard betray him, and go on from there. Or make another "amalgam" Dracula like what MS did with Gabriel (Leon+Mathias=Gabriel, for those that are unaware).


Too Long;Didn't Read version: Variety is the spice of life. That's just my 2 cents. prunyuu~

[Nagumo]

If you guys have a problem with the Belmonts being descandants of Dracula, then you must really hate the CVIV guidebook that says Simon and all the other Belmonts are Dhampirs.

[VladCT]

I'll have to agree with those who are saying that you're being out of line. Having a strong opinion is one thing, being crude, rude, and completely immature about it is another. Suck a dick? Get AIDS? I'm starting to question your mental maturity here.

[Neobelmont]

So why are you running your mouth on a forum about a game?



So why are you running your mouth on a forum about a game?



I edited that out for something fresh. Thanks for being out of date. You really are like Kenshiro.


Wow, amazing. Nor have I. 



If 95% of the people on this forum weren't idiots maybe I wouldn't be so disagreeable. Let me give you a wake up call since you've been living under your mother's skirt your entire life. Unlike the members here, people, i.e. human beings tend to have something called "free will." This extends to independent thought and action. If someone says something I don't agree with, then by logic I disagree with them you fucking idiot. When someone gets a rare revelation or are blessed with enlightened thought or deed you might find that there are people on this forum I do agree with. Unfortunately, the vast majority (not all) of members on this forum are composed of illogical dipshits who talk shit all day about Cox, or Igarashi, or post their ridiculous fanfic ideas about LOS2.

I suggest you suck a dick. Preferably Freaks.


Get AIDS.

WTH man? What's got you in the mood ?

I question what makes you believe I care about your opinion. You're on the internet. You're irrelevant.

You  know for  a name that sounds like "wise" your being really dumb . 

[VladCT]

I question what makes you believe I care about your opinion. You're on the internet. You're irrelevant.

Well you should care as the Golden Rule here is "don't be an ass". As far as I'm concerned, you've already broken that, so you might want to behave unless you want Jorge to give you a warning, and eventually a ban.

[son_the_vampire]

The man is a typing contradiction. Doesn't think we are relevant yet replies to post. That's laughable in its own regard. 
 
I think CV wants to have misses in the timeline. If you think about it, I don't recall the some games to be narrated by the actual person doing the deed. So maybe there are certain things purposefully left out to keep fans guessing

[VladCT]

Yeah because a ban would be so detrimental.  Only idiots like you are kept in line by something so juvenille.
2) A ban can be subverted with a different account or proxy.

3) Even IP bans can be subverted so there is no real way to stop me.

Wow, just wow. You've stated outright here that you will attempt to evade bans. That's like saying that you will rob someone right in a cop's face. That's unbelievably stupid.

[Weiss Belmont]

[Neobelmont]

Actually, Weiss does not sound like wise. It's a German word that means white which is pronounced "VICE."

VICE and WISE do not sound even remotely similar.

VISE and WISE on the other hand is another matter entirely. But my username is not VISE is it?

You're kinda retarded.

heh... Learn a little more but it is kind of embarrassing when I am german my self(and a bunch of other things)  but hey you got me but I should have typed looks instead of sounds

Yet I've been called worse so try a little hard please 

Like if I am a retard then you are a super alpha omega albino subterranean buttnoid  but whatever. 

[VladCT]

I just want to be clear on a few things.

1) I didn't say I'd evade a ban. I explained that I could if I felt so inclined to illustrate that while Jorge can keep you all in line I am not bound by his rules.

2) I decided what I can and I cannot do because I am the only authority I recognize.

3) Difference is cops actually have power backed up by a system that means something. With all due respect to Jorge, well, he's a mod on the internet.

No offense Jorge.  But by all means if you'd like to try it please do. I'll give it about five or six days, maybe a week and then log in with a different account. Your call though. It's actually my call but you have my permission to pull the trigger if you feel it will keep the flock under control.

Yeah, I think it's already too late to say "with all due respect" and "no offense".
Anyway, when you join a community you are expected to act by their rules and regulations. If you can't do so then you can always find another community where you might feel more at home.

Really? I don't see a swastiska. 

And here you go doing the whole German = Nazi thing. I know you might be joking, but at this point you're just digging yourself deeper.

[Neobelmont]

Really? I don't see a swastiska. 

  Guy has jokes 

But a swastiska? Kind of boring It's not like I have not been called a Nazi before try again.  But I know it's no use to try and talk to you.   

[son_the_vampire]

Whenever u are ready to play some more of Capcom's Super Street Fighter IV (on topic) feel free to send a request whenever I'm online

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

I just want to be clear on a few things.

1) I didn't say I'd evade a ban. I explained that I could if I felt so inclined to illustrate that while Jorge can keep you all in line I am not bound by his rules.

2) I decided what I can and I cannot do because I am the only authority I recognize.

3) Difference is cops actually have power backed up by a system that means something. With all due respect to Jorge, well, he's a mod on the internet.

No offense Jorge.  But by all means if you'd like to try it please do. I'll give it about five or six days, maybe a week and then log in with a different account. Your call though. It's actually my call but you have my permission to pull the trigger if you feel it will keep the flock under control.

Okay.

[Flame]

@Flame: The fact that you had to pull those examples from multiple games proves my point. Also Gabriel has abnormal body proportions beyond those examples you posted.

Point still stands. You talk as if MS invented this notion of muscles and tits in Castlevania, when theyve been around all along. Belmonts used to be barbarians, and IGA's games were FULL of "sexy female monsters"

Gabriel was pretty built though.

But then again...



John Morris was built like a fucking truck.

Even his sprite is Ford Tough.

@Shiroi Koumori: The succubus art was censored for the US release of SotN. That is the version he posted.

wasnt gonna post nude tits >_> Carmilla gets a pass because her model has literally, no nipples or vagina.

[Neobelmont]

Whenever u are ready to play some more of Capcom's Super Street Fighter IV (on topic) feel free to send a request whenever I'm online

Yeah but I got to get into the mode you'll kick my butt again if I'm not at my best   

Anyways please tell me you got Persona 4 arena? Sorry for sounding like a broken record