Topic: Konami: "Taking risks with CV prevented it from becoming another Megaman"

[A-Yty]

Same here - when it comes to the Owl Knight. I try to kill the knight instead of the owl so he doesn't have to mourn his loss 

[Pfil]

Same here - when it comes to the Owl Knight. I try to kill the knight instead of the owl so he doesn't have to mourn his loss 

I do the same 

Dracula wants in on the cute puppies picture. 


You can almost hear him saying, "Those other puppies are cute!  Why can't you be cute, you accursed vampire dog?" 

Hahahaha! I'm literally LOL now!

[son_the_vampire]

Isn't there a similar enemy that has a dog. I think? I always would kill the guy and not the pooch

[TheouAegis]

Zombie Hunter. Or something like that. Sends an undead dog after you. If you kill the dog, he cries. If you kill him, the dog cries. Either way you feel like a douche.

I've said it before, even though I dislike the IGAvanias for their sloppy design, they had some of the most entertaining enemies of any game series. How many other non-ecchi video games let you use a vacuum to lift up a maid's skirt? Or make you feel horrible for killing a killer animal?

[VladCT]

If you kill the dog, he cries. If you kill him, the dog cries. Either way you feel like a douche.

Solution: Kill both at the same time. They'll be together in death, and you'll feel less like a douche!
...Is that really possible, I wonder? Haven't played for a long time.

[Shiroi Koumori]

Solution: Kill both at the same time. They'll be together in death, and you'll feel less like a douche!
...Is that really possible, I wonder? Haven't played for a long time.

Um, if I am not mistaken, with a regular weapon, the dog dies in one hit but it takes about 2-3 hits to kill the man.
I didn't bother to upgrade my weapons to the maximum, but I think it is possible to kill them both at once with a high powered weapon.

[Pfil]

I don't recall if they are from PoR, but in the end I could kill anything with 1 hit with Charlotte (and Dracula in 16 hits I believe was the top).

[TheouAegis]

I don't think you can, actually, technically. The first one to take lethal damage would trigger the other one to enter its mourning state. Once in the mourning state, it becomes invulnerable. So while it might look like you killed both at once, only one actually died. Without debugging or slow-mo screen caps, it'd be hard to verify.

[VladCT]

Theoretically, if I were to whittle down the old man's HP so I can finish him off with a bullet soul and then use something like Mandragora or Erinys while both the dog and the old man were in range, would that kill both at the same time?
Of course, such a feat, if at all possible, would be difficult without tool assistance.

[TheouAegis]

I think it depends entirely on how IGA's team programmed it. More than likely, they would have set the "mourning" flag for whichever had the lowest register (the man, I think) and the other half would check the flag before detecting damage. At least in CV3, collision detection was handled at the start of each step. If Konami didn't check the mourning flag until the specific behavioral code (as opposed to the universal behavioral code like collision detecting), then theoretically you might be able to kill both at the same time. If they checked the mourning flag at the start of the step, though, then no.

[Inccubus]

Same here - when it comes to the Owl Knight. I try to kill the knight instead of the owl so he doesn't have to mourn his loss 

Glad I'm not the only one. 

[TheouAegis]

I kill the knight first because it's just a fuckin' owl -- I know I can take it! 

[son_the_vampire]

But the owl has Talons man. 

[X]

I find it doesn't bother me if I kill the owl knight's owl or the old man's dog first. They are going to attack me if I don't act. If they cry or mourn the loss of their beloved pets then they shouldn't have trained them to kill me in the first place. It's their loss because they didn't put first the animal's well-being. Beside they all serve Dracula and are monsters so I'm not gonna feel sorry for them. If it were a real life situation that would be a totally different story. And I would feel sorry for them if i was forced to take 'em down. To take a life in a video game is easy as I know they are nothing more then coding and graphics with sound effects. But in real life I don't believe I ever could kill an animal because my mind's on how they would feel.

[Thomas Belmont]

I could never bring myself to kill that dog, or the ones in DoS. I'm such a weenie.

Being a huge animal lover, I hate when games have animals as enemies!