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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2013, 08:19:46 PM »
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I kind of forget that but my beef is more with the computer emulation like zsnes(I have tales of phantasia and earthbound) but still I hate it  . I do not do this unless if I really cannot afford it. It's not my preference to play games like this especially on computer.
That's, like, your oppinion man. Just don't go saying things that make you look like elitist (emulation, yuck! let's look for a NES on Ebay and spend thousand of dollars to get a original cartridge instead of buying these 20+ old games for $0.30+ these days).

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« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2013, 08:42:41 PM »
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The Japanese sure like their Dragon Quest.

It's been said in the past that Japanese gamers were mostly into RPGs whereas Americans preferred action games. I think that's the reasoning for some action games being "toughened up" for their US releases like Contra: Hard Corps—one-hit death instead of the original three health points.

Another part of it is that game rentals are not allowed in Japan while they were big in the US back in the day. So they made games harder so you couldn't beat them over a 3 day rental period. Also don't forget that the real Mario 2 wasn't released in the US because they thought it would be too difficult for American gamers. I like Super Mario Bros. 2 USA better anyway. Birdo and Shyguy forever!

As for the topic of emulation, while I enjoy having and using the physical media an awful lot the plain truth is that we should all get used to the idea of playing older games via some form of emulation like the VC. Because game cartridges and discs and the devices to play them won't last forever. In 40 or 50 years you can be sure the only way to experience a lot of these old games will be through emulation, hell a lot of them are already 25+ years old. At some point it becomes only a question of whether the circuits will wear out from use or heat/dry rot will get them first.

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« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2013, 09:09:34 PM »
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That's, like, your oppinion man. Just don't go saying things that make you look like elitist (emulation, yuck! let's look for a NES on Ebay and spend thousand of dollars to get a original cartridge instead of buying these 20+ old games for $0.30+ these days).

Did I not say that I have tales of phantasia and earthbound emulated and I only do this if it's a last resort? What's so wrong and so elitist about wanting the actual cartridge/disk in your hand? If someone does emulation that's their thing but again like I said I like holding the physical copy in my hand and putting it into the system and is that so wrong? 

And yes of course it's my opinion like I can't share it? Come on now just because I don't prefer doing emulations makes me sound like an elitist? Like I could afford a neo-geo game(maybe not now but one day)  :rollseyes:
So yeah I see your point but I'm still sticking to my mine but maybe hate was a tad strong?  :P

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« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2013, 09:16:51 PM »
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Did I not say that I have tales of phantasia and earthbound emulated and I only do this if it's a last resort? What's so wrong and so elitist about wanting the actual cartridge/disk in your hand? If someone does emulation that's their thing but again like I said I like holding the physical copy in my hand and putting it into the system and is that so wrong? 

And yes of course it's my opinion like I can't share it? Come on now just because I don't prefer doing emulations makes me sound like an elitist? Like I could afford a neo-geo game  :rollseyes:
So yeah I see your point but I'm still sticking to my point but maybe hate was a tad strong?  :P
I understand your point too. I can see the benefits of playing on the original hardware.

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« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2013, 09:19:48 PM »
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I understand your point too. I can see the benefits of playing on the original hardware.

 :) Yeah but :

Another part of it is that game rentals are not allowed in Japan while they were big in the US back in the day. So they made games harder so you couldn't beat them over a 3 day rental period. Also don't forget that the real Mario 2 wasn't released in the US because they thought it would be too difficult for American gamers. I like Super Mario Bros. 2 USA better anyway. Birdo and Shyguy forever!

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 Maybe I'm just a stubborn mule  but it will happen eventually  :( I can't deny the fact that emulators will never die.
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« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2013, 10:54:28 PM »
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:) Yeah but :

 Maybe I'm just a stubborn mule  but it will happen eventually  :( I can't deny the fact that emulators will never die.

Well, they'll hopefully die significantly slower anyway lol. But it's good they exist so the history of gaming won't be lost like so much of film history has. (It's been estimated that around 80 to 90% of silent films are now "lost" and probably no longer exist in any form. While some estimate that 50% of America sound films made before the 1960s are now lost. To say nothing of the only partially extant films.) But I agree having the original hardware is fun, it's a layer of the experience. Not an essential layer but one that's nice to have if the hardware still works and you can afford it. If I didn't agree I probably wouldn't have all of these consoles in front of me heh.
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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2013, 03:29:31 AM »
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Most of the games I emulate are game's I've owned hard copies of. I've owned an NES, SNES, Genesis, GameBoy, N64, PSX and on up. Maybe it's because I've played the games on their original hardware by in some cases thr emulation can be better. No more having to worry about glitchy cartridges or controllers tha stop working. Plus having it all on one device instead of being spread across several different consoles (that all take up space around your tv.)

I dunno, I'm pretty partial to emulation even if just to conserve space. Plus like Ratty said, we have te entire history of gaming available online for free. I can't see how that's a bad thing. I like that if I'm somewhere and want to play CV1 I can just download an emu and a rom quick and get my fix.

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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2013, 08:43:59 PM »
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I stopped reading after I saw Xevious beating Metroid. And Castlevania for that matter. And the entire Mega Man series. But yeah, who am I to judge...


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