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Re: Is Dracula x (Akumajo Dracula xx) (Snes) A sequel to RoB?
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2014, 01:45:38 AM »
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The map screen clearly shows the level takes place within the tower in the background but the one in the background show a caved in staircase leading to the keep. ?

That's because the image is stretched out of proper proportion in order for it to fit the background. On the map screen it's normal, however this image was blown up a bit to fit as a back drop piece for the final stage so the pixelation is off somewhat.
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« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2014, 02:20:06 AM »
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Yes, i agree. I noticed this and it's.... Just bad! No way to cover it up really. It's clearly a mental mistake by somebody, lol. I'm sure somebody would argue that it's an illusion and the castle is trying to stop the main character from completing the game by drawing him away in another direction or some garbage like that. In the same way they try to piece together timelines between vintage games and modern ones ;)
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Re: Is Dracula x (Akumajo Dracula xx) (Snes) A sequel to RoB?
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2014, 02:42:18 AM »
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According to this site, Akumajo Dracula XX was once called Akumajo Dracula X II (working title).
http://draken.fc2web.com/houmotu_1.htm
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It may mean that this was once made as a sequel.
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Re: Is Dracula x (Akumajo Dracula xx) (Snes) A sequel to RoB?
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2014, 05:52:30 AM »
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Seeing you guys discussing this game made me remember of one of the things that boggled my mind when I played it. I mean, take a look at this:



There is something very wrong with this part of the game (last stage). Can any of you tell what is it?

It's not a mistake, that's the inverted Castle from SOTN ;P
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Re: Is Dracula x (Akumajo Dracula xx) (Snes) A sequel to RoB?
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2014, 06:23:22 AM »
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According to this site, Akumajo Dracula XX was once called Akumajo Dracula X II (working title).
http://draken.fc2web.com/houmotu_1.htm
google translate

It may mean that this was once made as a sequel.

Wow! Interesting! Could it also mean Akumajo Dracula XII? XII means 12 when written together.

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Re: Is Dracula x (Akumajo Dracula xx) (Snes) A sequel to RoB?
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2014, 08:28:10 AM »
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Wow! Interesting! Could it also mean Akumajo Dracula XII? XII means 12 when written together.
The possibility may exist. Mega Drive Vampire Killer is XI. In the case of XII, it is the new castlevania game. In the case of X-II, it is the RoB sequel.
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Re: Is Dracula x (Akumajo Dracula xx) (Snes) A sequel to RoB?
« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2014, 09:36:54 AM »
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The image is really small, but on closer inspection, I think it says X-II, not XII (the yellow letters). I remembered this magazine article that says Gekka no Yasokyoku was also called Dracula X 2 initially.

http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/features/magscans/EGM88p41.jpg

Perhaps Akumajo Dracula XX was supposed to be the RoB sequel, but then the original RoB team decided to make a sequel of their own, and they decided to make it a port instead?       

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Re: Is Dracula x (Akumajo Dracula xx) (Snes) A sequel to RoB?
« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2014, 11:39:56 AM »
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Asking a developer/staff member from that era would give us a true answer.

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Re: Is Dracula x (Akumajo Dracula xx) (Snes) A sequel to RoB?
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2014, 02:52:43 PM »
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My belief with regards to that image is that the people in charge of making the backgrounds and placing them did not place this in the correct location.
It 'probably' was supposed to be a background for the ClockTower stage, since it actually is on the opposite side of the castle, in a location where that view would be reasonable...
...problem is, once the clocktower stage was designed, it ended up coming out of a cavern and possessed no windows until the boss fight.
So it seems like, rather than waste a beautiful background, they decided to go all roflcopter and place it 'somewhere' so that it doesn't go to waste.
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« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2014, 03:55:16 PM »
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I would have made more sense for the castle to be a back drop for the clocktower stage even if it was for only one screen. But because of their final decision we ended up with something that came off as very lazy.
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Re: Is Dracula x (Akumajo Dracula xx) (Snes) A sequel to RoB?
« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2014, 07:31:27 PM »
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Hmmmm
----ROB-ADXX-SOTN---
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     Possible sequel/F**k up?

WAIT! this was how Richter ended up in the castle when he got possessed we can assume all of the bosses including dracula were an illusion created by shaft. we never see the castle crumble.
hmmmm ........... I wonder whats for dinner?

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Re: Is Dracula x (Akumajo Dracula xx) (Snes) A sequel to RoB?
« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2014, 09:16:34 PM »
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The image is really small, but on closer inspection, I think it says X-II, not XII (the yellow letters). I remembered this magazine article that says Gekka no Yasokyoku was also called Dracula X 2 initially.

http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/features/magscans/EGM88p41.jpg

Perhaps Akumajo Dracula XX was supposed to be the RoB sequel, but then the original RoB team decided to make a sequel of their own, and they decided to make it a port instead?       

That doesn't quite make sense since the earliest presentation in game magazines showed it to be a direct port, and then when it came time to review the thing it got borked.

Now I'm curious to see how it was handled in the Japanese game mags of the time.


Hmmmm
----ROB-ADXX-SOTN---
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     Possible sequel/F**k up?

WAIT! this was how Richter ended up in the castle when he got possessed we can assume all of the bosses including dracula were an illusion created by shaft. we never see the castle crumble.

Ha! That's a way better then what they did. Worthy of being hacked into the game.
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Re: Is Dracula x (Akumajo Dracula xx) (Snes) A sequel to RoB?
« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2014, 11:01:08 PM »
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The image is really small, but on closer inspection, I think it says X-II, not XII (the yellow letters). I remembered this magazine article that says Gekka no Yasokyoku was also called Dracula X 2 initially.

http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/features/magscans/EGM88p41.jpg

Perhaps Akumajo Dracula XX was supposed to be the RoB sequel, but then the original RoB team decided to make a sequel of their own, and they decided to make it a port instead?       

Actually, a cancelled SEGA 32x game called "Castlevania: The Bloodletting" was originally intended to be a sequel of Rondo of Blood.

Anyway, I always find Dracula X to be a "badly designed" port of Rondo of Blood since the Turbografx 16 wasn't selling well in America and the game never came out. Eventually, Konami made a port of Rondo of Blood which became Dracula X
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Re: Is Dracula x (Akumajo Dracula xx) (Snes) A sequel to RoB?
« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2014, 01:10:29 AM »
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The Bloodletting for 32X was revealed to be a hoax, was it not?

As for Dracula X, I don't even think it qualifies as a proper port. I mean it's a port of Richter's basic play mechanics, but that's it. They left out so much of the game that it falls far short of anyone being able to call it a port with a straight face. If anything it's a remake. A half-assed one, but a remake nonetheless.
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« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2014, 01:57:08 AM »
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The controls weren't even ported over properly, and you can't do that "whip and quickly press down to near-simultaneously whip above and below" trick from Rondo.

It's a shoddy unique port, but I still love it.
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