Topic: The Lords of Shadow series has come and gone, time to reflect on it.

[Inccubus]

The question is where Dracula learned Trevor's real name. I suppose it couldn't be too difficult for him to figure it out eventually, by the time the siege happens.

Someone in the Brotherhood of Light had to know about it. Not to mention Trevor wasn't isolated his entire life at minimum he has to have been running around doing heroic shit for a few years before taking on Gabriel. Point being he has to have had some amount of fame. Then there is also the possibility that Sypha would likely have had relatives that would have know about him.

Having Alucard on the coffin is a bit odd. I could be an easter egg. It could be a plot hole. It could be an easter egg that causes a plot hole.

[X]

It could be a plot hole. It could be an easter egg that causes a plot hole.

Awww, why did you stop there?? the easter egg, plothole thingy was just getting good!

[Shiroi Koumori]

Awww, why did you stop there?? the easter egg, plothole thingy was just getting good!

What plot hole? It's a black hole! An abyss that leads to nothingness that was spawned by numerous creative differences and eventually its true reason was forgotten in the depths of time.

[zangetsu468]

I dunno, Lost Village looks pretty damn German.

Regardless of context, it appears that way, because it's supposed to imitate Castlevania.
The best argument is that Yoko and Arikado are associates, Arikado works for a top secret Japanese organisation. Thus if he's investigating something it's most likely going to be in Japan. Alucard is the best source of tracking any kind of paranormal activity to do with Dracula or his Castle... Second, Soma is still an exchange student as far as anyone knows. Third, Mina's main place of living is the Hakuba Shrine. The game does nothing to explain to the viewer that the context has shifted. 

On a lighter note, if anyone could build a towering replica of Castlevania it's Japan, they have 1:1 scale gundam!

[Flame]

Second, Soma is still an exchange student as far as anyone knows.

he's just a Japanese student in the Japanese version of the game.

Though, exchange student will always be canon to me.  Just works better

[Mangoaxe5]

Still don't like the Lords of Shadows games(or the Lords of Shit) games as I call them.

First of all Castlevania didn't need a reboot. There was still plenty of room to fit more games on the timeline plus the 1999 game.

Second the LOS games barely have any thing to do with Castlevania. The Castlevania references feel forced, and why is Satan the main bad guy in a Castlevania game?

Third the character designs are not Castlevania. Castlevania games have a gothic atmosphere, but the LOS games have a genetic fantasy feel. It feels more like a rip-off of Lord of the Rings and Pan's Labyrinth.


This does not belong in a Castlevania game. 

[crisis]

cox clearly told everyone from the start, "this is Castlevania but NOT as you know it." so nobody can say they werent warned since the beginning.

that said there are indeed several elements within the los saga that harken back to castlevania of old, and has been proven time & time again if you refuse to see it then youre just blind to the facts. CHristianity has been a constant theme in the series so them finally introducing Mr. Satan wasnt that big of surprise. and hes only there as an enemy for Dracula, not the entire Belmont clan. Dracula doesnt get along with neither God OR Satan, and thats intruiging to some of us. but im not gonna make a list of "castlevania stuff in los" b/c thats redundant. theres a cow in SotN. we have a chainsaw-wielding enemy in OoE. no way a laser gun straight out of Terminator will ever be seen in a castlevania... positron rifle. its just the chaotic nature of the series & will continue to introduce "foreign" elements here n there as it always has


now, i also agree with u that castlevania didnt need a reboot. there are a lot of empty slots in the timeline that would take almost a decade to fulfill, if given the right attention it deserves. they dont all have to be 2D games

while i was playing order of ecclesia for the first time, when i was traveling thru the first forest area, with "Emerald Mist" playing
Castevania: Order of Ecclesia ost 17- Emerald Mist

you know what i kept thinking of? what kept running thru my mind, "damn, i cant believe this, the saga i first started in 1986 im still playing in 2008, the story of the Belmonts vs. Dracula is still going on..." and it gave me warm feeling inside similar to chocolate. i realized this long-running canon is still being fulfilled with new entries & characters. thats what i love about castlevania canon

[Flame]

Still don't like the Lords of Shadows games(or the Lords of Shit) games as I call them.

very mature

First of all Castlevania didn't need a reboot. There was still plenty of room to fit more games on the timeline plus the 1999 game.

Not nearly as much room as you would think.

Second the LOS games barely have any thing to do with Castlevania. The Castlevania references feel forced, and why is Satan the main bad guy in a Castlevania game?

Considering the series is based on Judeochristian mythology, it was only a matter of time, since older games referenced hell and heaven quite a bit. Remember Satan's ring? or Hell in Dawn of Sorrow? This isn't new. Demons have been part of castlevania for a long time, too. Also forced? that's entirely subjective. the 'what is a man" linedrop in LoS2 is forced for sure, but many other references felt fine to me, and in many cases, very subtle. some were pretty missable.

Third the character designs are not Castlevania.

neither are these.





And what exactly defines castlevania character design? because  this



Was most certainly "not castlevania" when compared to classicvania character design.

And let's not go into Simon's Kojima design, with the pretty face and leather, and how people felt about that compared to barbarian Simon.

or perhaps Johnathan Morris ridiculously anime getup. Soma suffers from this a little too in Dawn of Sorrow, but can be excused because "lol future". And for 2025, his Aria outfit was surprisingly retro. And it fit a purpose too. To make him look regal.

Character designs are entirely subjective, and for all it's faults, at least the main character designs were pretty standard fare for Castlevania. Trevor and Simon and Gabriel stand out. Gabriel specifically, since he's basically identical to CV2 Simon sans hair color.

Castlevania games have a gothic atmosphere, but the LOS games have a genetic fantasy feel. It feels more like a rip-off of Lord of the Rings and Pan's Labyrinth.

have you even played MoF or LoS2? Lords 1 is more fantasy for a reason. It was a series origin story. They wanted to show a more fantasy world for the era before Dracula, so that once Dracula comes into the picture, everything gets much more gothic in atmosphere. MoF has a thick gothic atmosphere, as do the Castle segments in LoS2.

This does not belong in a Castlevania game.

Neither does this.



But no complains there?

Also, Pan is a mythological figure. I find it odd that you are not opposed to Medusa, Harpies, Valkyries, Golems, Demons, but Pan is somehow not allowed.

[e105beta]

Still don't like the Lords of Shadows games(or the Lords of Shit) games as I call them.

First of all Castlevania didn't need a reboot. There was still plenty of room to fit more games on the timeline plus the 1999 game.

Second the LOS games barely have any thing to do with Castlevania. The Castlevania references feel forced, and why is Satan the main bad guy in a Castlevania game?

Third the character designs are not Castlevania. Castlevania games have a gothic atmosphere, but the LOS games have a genetic fantasy feel. It feels more like a rip-off of Lord of the Rings and Pan's Labyrinth.


This does not belong in a Castlevania game.

You mean like this?



or this?



Get over yourself, bro

[Maedhros]

I'm glad it's over and I hope it stays this way.

[Kingshango]

I'm glad it's over and I hope it stays this way.

I'd abandon that hope if I were you.

[Flame]

I'm glad it's over and I hope it stays this way.

I would agree with you- the last thing the LoS series needs is to be milked like the classic timeline was- it's rare for a series to actually have a decisive end.

That said, given the absolute lack of closure that loS2 provided, I'd probably accept another game or DLC.

To be honest, I'm kind of sad it's over. it was a very wild ride, despite the divisive nature of it. And I enjoyed seeing MS reinterpret old characters and concepts.

[Maedhros]

I'd abandon that hope if I were you.

Even if they make another one, it's over for me. I won't play another game from this series ever again. They are not fun for me, so why should I?

[Flame]

That's a very silly and kind of immature mindset. So all because they made another game you didn't like you are done with the franchise?

people didn't leave when Dawn or Portrait or Judgement happened, so it's silly to leave just because of a castlevania game you didn't like. You don't have to play it, and there's still tons of older CV games to waste time with until a game you do like comes out.

All because I don't like what's become of Mega Man, doesn't mean "I'm done" because of Xover and Legends 3's cancellation. I'll just wait.

[Maedhros]

That's a very silly and kind of immature mindset. So all because they made another game you didn't like you are done with the franchise?

people didn't leave when Dawn or Portrait or Judgement happened, so it's silly to leave just because of a castlevania game you didn't like. You don't have to play it, and there's still tons of older CV games to waste time with until a game you do like comes out.

All because I don't like what's become of Mega Man, doesn't mean "I'm done" because of Xover and Legends 3's cancellation. I'll just wait.

Some people liked Dawn or Portrait and even judgement. I had fun playing Dawn and Portrait, I didn't playing LoS. It's how it is, nothing immature about it. I'm sick of the concepts they tried, sick of the storyline, sick of the ambient music. I don't want it to continue.

It's good that you want, maybe you'll get it. It's over for me, though.