Topic: Top 5 castlevania games by screwattack

[JR]

"Screwattack"

I'm out.

Heh, same here. Last time I visited ScrewAttack was when Stuttering Craig was trying to get everyone to help him land a job as an announcer for the Dallas Mavericks, or some crap like that.

[Viskod]

I would say Rondo of Blood is the best classic game, Symphony of the Night is the best Metroid style game, and Lords of Shadow 1 is the best 3D game, with Lament of Innocence being a close second for the varied sub weapons and how I am biased because I love playing as that little squeaking pumpkin.

[Ratty]

The only reason you would place Bloodlines ahead of RoB is if you were ranking the games purely by popularity, which I figured out a while back is basically what Screwattack (and to be fair most other "Top X" video makers) always does. More people have played Bloodlines since it was released in the US and Europe on the Genesis rather than a decade+ later on the PSP, so it gets the nod. Sometimes I have to just roll my eyes and move on, since it's often obvious from the commentary in a lot of these types of videos that the person hasn't actually played much of a game. This must be what Grad students who have to flag poorly plagiarized papers feel like.

Heh, same here. Last time I visited ScrewAttack was when Stuttering Craig was trying to get everyone to help him land a job as an announcer for the Dallas Mavericks, or some crap like that.

Not to mention the way Craig apparently stabbed Handsome Tom (who I find increasingly insufferable anyways) in the back when Screwattack was registered as a company. Basically I view them as a bunch of people who got really lucky and attached themselves to the AVGN. Which helped them get bought by Gametrailers, which was then bought by MTV I think. I saw some of their stuff had been put up on the escapist a while back though so maybe after the AVGN basically retired Gametrailers/MTV let them go though.

[Chernabogue]

Are "top something" videos still popular? Uh...

[Ratty]

Are "top something" videos still popular? Uh...

Hey, as long as it makes people happy I don't judge. I just rarely watch them myself nowadays. The only video series I watch much of anymore it seems is What the Fuck is Wrong with you? because my girlfriend loves it, and Counter Monkey which never updates lol.

[Morning star]

Bloodlines and aria of sorrow huh... Wow!

If your doing a best Castlevania games list, how about showing a little respect! The original game should get a nod on this list somewhere. I can live with SOTN and Castlevania 4 in the one and two spots. But after that, this list gets a little strange. Where is rondo of blood? Or at the very least Dracula X. It should there over bloodlines.

[derision]

Bloodlines and aria of sorrow huh... Wow!

If your doing a best Castlevania games list, how about showing a little respect! The original game should get a nod on this list somewhere. I can live with SOTN and Castlevania 4 in the one and two spots. But after that, this list gets a little strange. Where is rondo of blood? Or at the very least Dracula X. It should there over bloodlines.

If by "strange", you mean "his opinion is different from mine", then yeah. Real strange.

Aria of Sorrow is a very well-regarded game and plenty of people like Bloodlines. CV1's formula has been refined and updated across many games. I don't see any problem here.

Personally, I think Rondo of Blood is really overrated. Bloodlines was a much more interesting and challenging game to me. Dracula X? The SNES version? I don't even know what to say, other than that game is garbage...

[Morning star]

If by "strange", you mean "his opinion is different from mine", then yeah. Real strange.

Aria of Sorrow is a very well-regarded game and plenty of people like Bloodlines. CV1's formula has been refined and updated across many games. I don't see any problem here.

Personally, I think Rondo of Blood is really overrated. Bloodlines was a much more interesting and challenging game to me. Dracula X? The SNES version? I don't even know what to say, other than that game is garbage...

Yep, that's exactly what i am saying. His opinion is much different from mine.

I was listening to you until you called Dracula X garbage. I have played Dracula X and Bloodlines. I don't see how you can like one and call the other garbage. Dracula X is a LOT like Castlevania 4. Only it's not as long and you can't make the whip swing all around. I think Dracula X even had the better music out of the two. (Still talking about Castlevania 4 btw)

[KaZudra]

Bloodlines and aria of sorrow huh... Wow!

If your doing a best Castlevania games list, how about showing a little respect! The original game should get a nod on this list somewhere. I can live with SOTN and Castlevania 4 in the one and two spots. But after that, this list gets a little strange. Where is rondo of blood? Or at the very least Dracula X. It should there over bloodlines.

just watch the aria segment again, once you notice that all they did was rehash reviews and watch clips you'll see why I have no respect for screwattack and the only reason they are known is because of AVGN

[derision]

I was listening to you until you called Dracula X garbage.

So you listened to me for my entire post, then.

I have played Dracula X and Bloodlines. I don't see how you can like one and call the other garbage. Dracula X is a LOT like Castlevania 4. Only it's not as long and you can't make the whip swing all around. I think Dracula X even had the better music out of the two. (Still talking about Castlevania 4 btw)

You don't see? Really? You're not even trying since it's not hard to entertain some reasons. Delibrately refusing to understand why someone may think differently, just so you can dismiss their thoughts by the mere virtue of them being different from your own, is irritatingly narcissistic.

One's a fairly butchered retread of a better game. Bloodlines at least stands alone as its own thing, while actually retaining a second playable character and having stages that are, you know, good. And no, CV4 and Dracula X really don't have much in common aside from being linear CV games on the same platform.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I've ever heard anyone actually stick up for Dracula X SNES. This is generally considered to bottom-of-the-barrel in terms of classic CV.

[RegalSin]

You can't put SOTN at the top because it is a 2d game being used on a 3d console, which is over kill, for the series.

You can't use AOS, because all GBA Castlevania games are just refinements of the SOTN game, and proves SOTN could have worked on 2d consoles, before SOTN.

I will admit AOS blew me away with the open clean atmosphere, compared to the last two GBA games, but that is refinement of the games on the GBA.

I will admit, bloodline belongs on that list.
I will admit ROB, belongs on that list.
Even Kid Vampire belongs on that list.
Sonia game also belongs on that list.
I will admit CIV belongs on that list because of the unique looking graphics, and things done on the SNES.

I do not like how screw attacked, attacked, Richets race. I mean nobody cares about his race, at all. Then the r-tard, had the nerve to bring his race into this conversation, and say "Stereotypical". Ritchet I will admit, is the breaking point of the series, but only because the PCE was the apex of all 2d consoles, at least in Japan.

[Morning star]

So you listened to me for my entire post, then.

You don't see? Really? You're not even trying since it's not hard to entertain some reasons. Delibrately refusing to understand why someone may think differently, just so you can dismiss their thoughts by the mere virtue of them being different from your own, is irritatingly narcissistic.

One's a fairly butchered retread of a better game. Bloodlines at least stands alone as its own thing, while actually retaining a second playable character and having stages that are, you know, good. And no, CV4 and Dracula X really don't have much in common aside from being linear CV games on the same platform.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I've ever heard anyone actually stick up for Dracula X SNES. This is generally considered to bottom-of-the-barrel in terms of classic CV.

I guess i thought this was about giving our own opinions of the list. I did that. The fact that you find my opinion "irritatingly narcissistic" really does not matter. Your almost calling names because i disagree with your opinion. So what's the difference? For the record i don't care how many people liked or didn't like a certain game. I don't bend to popular opinion just to get along.
 
But i am willing to admit that Bloodlines does stand well as it's own game. But.. I never said i didn't like it. I just find Dracula X to be much more authentic to the series. Even though it's a retread, it's still far from garbage. It's like a classic Castlevania game with really updated graphics for me. And the music is great! It's not easy for a first time player either. It's not Rondo, but for my money it's just as good as bloodlines.

Aria of sorrow is a handheld and should not be on a best of all time list. I don't care how many people like it. But again, just my opinion. Your free to have yours as well

just watch the aria segment again, once you notice that all they did was rehash reviews and watch clips you'll see why I have no respect for screwattack and the only reason they are known is because of AVGN

Researching reviews and polls to make your own list is not a good way to be respected. But it is a good way to make sure that most people agree (since they are going with the popular vote) lol. I see your point.

[zangetsu468]

Aria of Sorrow is a very well-regarded game and plenty of people like Bloodlines.

No arguments there, Aria is a well composed game with the best story in a CV game imo

Dracula X? The SNES version? I don't even know what to say, other than that game is garbage...

Bull-effing-shit.. Rondo is a great game, but it's as easy as ass and holds absolutely no challenge aside from stage 5'
Dracula X is the challenging version of Rondo, and the final boss actually involves platforming.
I'll probably be whipped for this post, and I'm not expecting people to agree with me but it is my honest opinion.

Yep, that's exactly what i am saying. His opinion is much different from mine.

Sing it sister!

I was listening to you until you called Dracula X garbage. I have played Dracula X and Bloodlines. I don't see how you can like one and call the other garbage. Dracula X is a LOT like Castlevania 4. Only it's not as long and you can't make the whip swing all around. I think Dracula X even had the better music out of the two. (Still talking about Castlevania 4 btw)

Agreed, I always thought it was the better SNES CV also.

Honestly, I'm not sure if I've ever heard anyone actually stick up for Dracula X SNES. This is generally considered to bottom-of-the-barrel in terms of classic CV.

Believe it, nobody cares about your pre-conceived notions. Everyone is entitled to an opinion that doesn't necessarily fit inside of your template which seems to cast some kind of Utopian ROB nostalgia.

[derision]

No arguments there, Aria is a well composed game with the best story in a CV game imo

Bull-effing-shit.. Rondo is a great game, but it's as easy as ass and holds absolutely no challenge aside from stage 5'
Dracula X is the challenging version of Rondo, and the final boss actually involves platforming.
I'll probably be whipped for this post, and I'm not expecting people to agree with me but it is my honest opinion.
Sing it sister!
Agreed, I always thought it was the better SNES CV also.
Believe it, nobody cares about your pre-conceived notions. Everyone is entitled to an opinion that doesn't necessarily fit inside of your template which seems to cast some kind of Utopian ROB nostalgia.

What the fuck are you even talking about. "Utopian ROB nostalgia?" I already said that I think the game is overrated. And these "pre-concieved notions" are justified, which is why I brought them up. Most people will probably say that they think Rondo is better than its SNES counterpart, and they'll have some very good reasons for it. Me? I think Dracula X is frustrating, poorly designed, clunky, prone to overusing the same enemy types (spear knights), and lacking in depth compared to its counterpart (Maria isn't playable and the alternate levels/paths are limited). And people will also have very good reasons for preferring CV4 over it...

You're giving me this tired "I'm entitled to my opinion" spiel when I'm not telling you otherwise. In fact, this mantra has driven my activity in this thread since I've been trying to show why people may prefer certain games over others, namely the ones listed in this video as opposed to the alternatives that have been brought up. I'm not saying that anyone's wrong or right. You're not really seeing that and are just having a kneejerk reaction to seeing your game criticized.

Do Judgment and Legends fans do this? That would be awkward.

[zangetsu468]

What the fuck are you even talking about. "Utopian ROB nostalgia?"

You know what the fuck I'm talking about.. Or maybe you don't.. Whatevs

I think Dracula X is frustrating, poorly designed, clunky, prone to overusing the same enemy types (spear knights), and lacking in depth compared to its counterpart (Maria isn't playable and the alternate levels/paths are limited). And people will also have very good reasons for preferring CV4 over it...

That's your perspective, here's mine: the game is more challenging, better artwork (no shitty anime cutscenes) music on par, has better platforming and more interesting levels and genuinely harder difficulty and multiple endings. Clunky I acknowledge can live with, nearly all Classicvanias felt this way and I have a thing for spearknights. The only downside being Maria, the 2 villagers and Shaft don't play a role.

You're giving me this tired "I'm entitled to my opinion" spiel when I'm not telling you otherwise. In fact, this mantra has driven my activity in this thread since I've been trying to show why people may prefer certain games over others. I'm not saying that anyone's wrong or right. You're not really seeing that and are just having a kneejerk reaction to seeing your game criticized.

Actually you stated nobody would stick up for DX which was when I opted to chime in just to rattle your wee little utopia, nothing more.

Blah blah blah and this is all your opinion which is a kneejerk reaction to what I stated.. Hope the irony is not lost on you.

Do Judgment and Legends fans do this? That would be awkward.

So I guess you must've used 50/50 and phone a friend since you're reverting to asking the audience.. It's a cry for attention which isn't fooling anyone.. It's like, the boy who cried 'Rondo'