Topic: Zelda : Breath of the Wild at E3

[Kingshango]

I haven't felt this super excited for a Zelda game since Wind Waker.

[X]

I'm still on the fence for the Zelda series. Never finished Majora's Mask, Twilight Princess, Wind Waker, or Skyward Sword (not counting the ones' I've never even played). I'm just not really feeling the Zelda vibe in these games as I do with the others. It looks interesting but is that even enough to grab me in the end? Maybe if I try it out someday I will see. Ocarina of Time was the only 3D Zelda I was ever able to finish--Several times at that. I just can't help but feel that Shigeru Miyamoto is losing touch with what Zelda was in favor of something that isn't quite Zelda. I can feel that in the latter games. I'm kinda worried that it's going to be the same with this one as well.

[JR]

Waaay too fanboyish

Heh, it definitely seems that way. Gaming journalists have made it sound like the fanboy tears over Uncharted 4's less-than-perfect review scores are something new. But I remember this happening practically any time a publication scores a Zelda game any less than a 9.5.

[Abnormal Freak]

I think the new features sound interesting for a series that has honestly stagnated. I've really been struggling the past several years to finish Skyward Sword because kinda neat precision swinging aside, it's old hat, except maybe a few steps back from the N64 and GameCube games because the overworld is basically a hub. I mean, it's always been kind of a hub in the 3D games I guess (especially Majora's Mask), but at least it gave you the illusion that you were traveling to these areas.

I'm cautiously optimistic for an open-world Zelda game where going to the different regions is seamless. I never really grabbed hold of open-world game design but I think if done right this could be really cool. When I first played Shadow of the Colossus, I kept asking myself, "Why isn't a Zelda world designed this way?"

[PFG9000]

It looks like a pretty cool game, but there was nothing in the trailer that screamed out Zelda! to me until the master sword shot toward the end.  Granted I've played very little of Wind Waker, and nothing after that except the awesome A Link between Worlds.

[zangetsu468]

@Kazudra Nintendo fanboys are worse than Zelda imo. Even going to the extreme of defending shitty consoles.

Although I am a longtime hardcore Nintendo and Zelda fan, I don't consider myself a fanboy because I also admit that certain games and aspects of certain games are genuinely lacking.
I loved OOT but never got into MM, WW was insanely popular at the time and I hated it, I loved TP while everyone was screaming WW. (Upon playing TP the second time I saw how unnecessary the intro/ tutorials of the game were.) I believe MC as good maybe even better than ALTTP, and that ALBW>ALTTP in content but not story. The only time I've been annoyed at a reviewer's opinion was Gamespot giving SS 7.5/ 10. Not because of the score but because it slammed SS for doing things that were done much better than in previous Zelda's, and the review did not acknowledge how well the game was designed given it's control scheme and the re-use of environments, which it did very well imo as opposed to say WW which re-used certain environments without innovation. I do, however, admit I am biased towards SS as it is my favourite Zelda game.

The biggest downfall about Zelda fanboys (specifically) imo is the Zelda Cycle. Although there are other franchises with more hardcore fanboys imho. For example Purist FF fanboys who don't like any games after VI. (Fanboys only and not pointing fingers at anyone here).

At the end of the day I like certain games because I like them, some games are crap but I may like certain crap games too. Castlevania COD is a classic example. It's not a fantastic game but it evokes the Castlevania within me and I like that. I even like it better than SCVIV which I don't think is great for a Castlevania game, even though I know that technically on all fronts it is a fantastic game.
 
I don't find that the Zelda WW, the Oracle series or LA are particularly good games for Zelda. I admit when not liking something regardless of its title.

[Inccubus]

Everything I've seen so far looks awesome. It's like a reincarnated LoZ1 with all the best of the modern bells and whistles.

[Bloodreign]

Strange, doesn't look like Zelda to me.   


*remains with the Zelda games of the past*

[zangetsu468]

Everything I've seen so far looks awesome. It's like a reincarnated LoZ1 with all the best of the modern bells and whistles.

Same. Like LOZ with a plot... Remake?

[Dark Nemesis]

Strange, doesn't look like Zelda to me.   


*remains with the Zelda games of the past*

Ah yes, that's how i feel about this game my self, but innovation thinks otherwise....

[Jazz Paladin Productions]

So, after viewing the recent 30 minute gameplay video...

Is it just me, or does the combat seem perhaps...slow? Unexciting? Uninspired?

I want to be giddy over this aspect, but it doesn't seem as exhilarating or frantic as some of the encounters could be in previous games from what I've seen thus far. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like you can slowly pick things off without much sense of danger. Maybe it's just the open world aspect that makes it so you can't get as swarmed and run for your life to the next screen-change with hordes of mobs chasing you, but I sure hope they can retain some sense of being hunted down for a fair distance before mobs rubber-band back to their point of origin.

[Kingshango]

Strange, doesn't look like Zelda to me.   


*remains with the Zelda games of the past*

Of course it's not Zelda, you play as Link.

[zangetsu468]

So, after viewing the recent 30 minute gameplay video...

Is it just me, or does the combat seem perhaps...slow? Unexciting? Uninspired?

I want to be giddy over this aspect, but it doesn't seem as exhilarating or frantic as some of the encounters could be in previous games from what I've seen thus far. Maybe it's just me, but it seems like you can slowly pick things off without much sense of danger. Maybe it's just the open world aspect that makes it so you can't get as swarmed and run for your life to the next screen-change with hordes of mobs chasing you, but I sure hope they can retain some sense of being hunted down for a fair distance before mobs rubber-band back to their point of origin.

It looks like WW/ TP to me with Bayonetta's witch time "slowdown". I also don't see how it's different to OOT's combat which although well designed with lock on, was never particularly refined nor that engaging. It just worked with Zelda in 3D tbh.

This is why I was always a fan of SS' combat moreso than others. Swordplay, parrying, rewarding you for fighting well.
I'm assuming as the game progresses depending on the direction you take you will acquire more and better weapons and possibly more skills etc. Hopefully there will be a parry move.

We have to be mindful this is the start of the game which the demo is showcasing. If this is the entirety of how the game works and all enemies are this easy then it won't work.

[Jazz Paladin Productions]

This is why I was always a fan of SS' combat moreso than others. Swordplay, parrying, rewarding you for fighting well.

I guess that's my main beef.  SS' s combat is engaging, and I think this particular kind of environment is really the place for it to shine, rather than the Wii U screen with a redundant map that is traditionally accessible just by pausing the game...

[zangetsu468]

I guess that's my main beef.  SS' s combat is engaging, and I think this particular kind of environment is really the place for it to shine, rather than the Wii U screen with a redundant map that is traditionally accessible just by pausing the game...

I agree. I was always a believer that SS combat took Zelda to the next level and finally tuned it to how it was best suited to be.

I was hoping they'd offer these style of controls and not go back to traditional "spam attack" combat. Hopefully there are enemies that you can't just strike willy nilly, but something tells me that this isn't going to happen. If anything specific strikes and timing is what both the slowdown and the bow will be for.

The gamepad has a stand anyway, the player could easily use the wiimote and nunchuck while checking the gamepad as it's on its own stand.