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Re: Warren Ellis is cancelled
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2020, 06:23:58 PM »
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Is it really interesting to anyone anymore what the CV head canon is from a man who's never played the game, gets his info from wikipedia, and spends his free time preying on young women?

Fuck this guy. CV fans deserve better.
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Re: Warren Ellis is cancelled
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2020, 10:59:26 PM »
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Fuck this guy. CV fans deserve better.

While I agree that we deserve better it does not matter to those in charge (Konami) so it then becomes a matter of taking what we can get when it comes to keeping he series relevant in todays market and the CV netflix series is currently the only popular thing bringing new eyes and interest to the series which if popular enough could spur Konami to get off their a$$ and take a interest in it to release a game, without the anime CV sinks back into nothing and we remain a dying fanbase with nothing new to talk about and instead having to rehash our old nostalgia.


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Re: Warren Ellis is cancelled
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2020, 07:25:31 AM »
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CV fans deserve better.

better like Erotic Violence:P

But yeah, i'm part of the "Castlevania is only standing because of the show and i don't want it cancelled" crew. I'd also like it to stay coherent to itself and having the same writer is part of that deal because imo, he has been good at it so far.

I don't mind the "bastardization" of the product because tbh, while Castlevania has long spanning lore, it also has "Barney and his Friends" levels of plot depth, specially the earlier games for obvious reasons.
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Re: Warren Ellis is cancelled
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2020, 07:53:47 AM »
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better like Erotic Violence:P

But yeah, i'm part of the "Castlevania is only standing because of the show and i don't want it cancelled" crew. I'd also like it to stay coherent to itself and having the same writer is part of that deal because imo, he has been good at it so far.

I don't mind the "bastardization" of the product because tbh, while Castlevania has long spanning lore, it also has "Barney and his Friends" levels of plot depth, specially the earlier games for obvious reasons.

Haha are we stuck with defaulting to Erotic Violence?

I should clarify. I'm not saying fuck the show. There are a lot of good people involved like the Powerhouse animation people.

I'm saying fuck Warren Ellis. I don't think he truly understands the series enough to be the writer, and what's worse, I don't think he cares to understand it. He'd rather spend his time being a dirt bag.

And I as I've said many times I'm not a fan of the music. But it's passable.
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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2020, 10:26:57 AM »
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Haha are we stuck with defaulting to Erotic Violence?

because that's what konami is doing with CV currently. That and GoS...which they didnt even bother to properly release

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I should clarify. I'm not saying fuck the show. There are a lot of good people involved like the Powerhouse animation people.

I'm saying fuck Warren Ellis. I don't think he truly understands the series enough to be the writer, and what's worse, I don't think he cares to understand it. He'd rather spend his time being a dirt bag.

i have lots of mixed feeling about ellis rn. Big grey area

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Re: Warren Ellis is cancelled
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2020, 06:58:07 PM »
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because that's what konami is doing with CV currently. That and GoS...which they didnt even bother to properly release

i have lots of mixed feeling about ellis rn. Big grey area

There is no gray area here.  This is disgusting predatory behavior.  Just because people turned a blind eye to this shit 20 years ago does not make it ok.
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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2020, 07:14:12 PM »
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I am allowed to feel any way i want to feel about it, tyvm.

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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2020, 08:43:55 PM »
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I am allowed to feel any way i want to feel about it, tyvm.
Yeah, and we're allowed to call out your opinions for being disgusting.
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« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2020, 10:06:38 PM »
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Sure thing, Hector. Looking forward to 4 pm i guess

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Re: Warren Ellis is cancelled
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2020, 12:28:01 AM »
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Guys, if you can't discuss this topic without insulting each other's opinions or being snarky, just let it go.

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Re: Warren Ellis is cancelled
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2020, 07:27:35 PM »
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I still haven't been able to bring myself to finish season 3. What a pile of crap. I'd be OK with a dead franchise if the only other option is a bad cartoon series.

Castlevania as games also have story. GOOD story. Maybe not in the way of dialog or anything, but the basic concepts are all golden, and the atmosphere and bestiary are where the series shines. These two elements create the story. And the Netflix series does nothing to cull from this history. Snore.

Maybe season 4 will have a better writer. Warren Ellis is a dink.
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Re: Warren Ellis is cancelled
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2020, 06:59:23 AM »
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Half of y’alls favorite movies were made by directors that have done some pervy shit in the past. Quentin Tarantino has a foot fetish. Only a matter of time before they dig something up about him & try to cancel him too.


I recall back in the day many fans were convinced IGA was sexist & wanted him removed as lead producer. I can only imagine if these allegations were brought up in this era. He dodged a bullet

I’m just numb to all of these stories I keep hearing these days. James Gunn made hundreds of tweets joking about child pornography & kinky shit. He gets removed by Disney from directing Guardians volume 3. Then he gets reinstated. Louis C.K. gets cancelled because he was into kinky shit, despite asking for consent first & respecting them if they declined. Nope not good enough, your career must end now. Morgan Freeman gets accused of sexual harassment by a woman that he was being interviewed by. Etc etc etc

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« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2020, 08:24:21 AM »
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Half of y’alls favorite movies were made by directors that have done some pervy shit in the past. Quentin Tarantino has a foot fetish. Only a matter of time before they dig something up about him & try to cancel him too.


I recall back in the day many fans were convinced IGA was sexist & wanted him removed as lead producer. I can only imagine if these allegations were brought up in this era. He dodged a bullet

I’m just numb to all of these stories I keep hearing these days. James Gunn made hundreds of tweets joking about child pornography & kinky shit. He gets removed by Disney from directing Guardians volume 3. Then he gets reinstated. Louis C.K. gets cancelled because he was into kinky shit, despite asking for consent first & respecting them if they declined. Nope not good enough, your career must end now. Morgan Freeman gets accused of sexual harassment by a woman that he was being interviewed by. Etc etc etc
Times change, we realize things that were once accepted were total BS and get rid of them.  Without making this a war, what Warren Ellis did is gross, and while I would never recommend legal action on something like this, I certainly don't want to support the man, and I am in active support of companies that feel the same.  Why are you so adamantly defending someone who was clearly and admittedly involved in disgusting behavior?  Do you think what he did was ok?
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Re: Warren Ellis is cancelled
« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2020, 08:54:00 AM »
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I’m not defending or condemning him. To be honest I was unaware of any of his work before watching the Netflix series. I read the article you posted & my response was “oh look, another one.” All I’m saying is I’m not surprised at all this outrage culture since people can get offended by anything you do nowadays & you’ll be cancelled whether you’re guilty or not.

Too many people are of the mindset of “so-and-so did something scummy, and I also dislike his work, so screw him forever,” whereas at the same time “this other guy did something scummy, but i like his work, so he gets a pass.” Not accusing you of this, just saying generally. It’s just human nature, which is why I say I’m numb to a lot of stuff I hear/read nowadays

But on the other hand, people forget scandals as time goes by. All storms pass & we wait for the next scandal to latch onto. Like I said James Gunn made those horrendous tweets but people forgave him & he even got a bonus by directing movies for 2 competing companies. So everything is so volatile & wishy-washy, Warren Ellis might even get offered a deal to make another animated series, if he apologizes or not, who knows. He probably will, since the show has been getting relatively positive reviews [amongst the general public that aren’t die-hard fans like us] & has been renewed for another season
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« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2020, 06:19:15 AM »
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According to this article, Ellis will not be returning for potential future seasons of Castlevania.

https://bleedingcool.com/tv/castlevania-reportedly-moving-on-from-warren-ellis-after-season-4/

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If Netflix's Castlevania moves on beyond its previously-announced fourth season, it will reportedly be doing so without series writer, producer, and creator Warren Ellis. In the Friday, July 31st edition of The Hollywood Reporter magazine, Graeme McMillan, Sharareh Drury, and Aaron Couch focused their "Heat Vision" column on the comics industry and how companies such as Marvel, DC, and Dark Horse are being forced to face a culture of exploitative and abusive behavior. McMillan, Drury, and Couch examined how the industry was cutting ties with a number of big-name creators who are facing numerous accusations.

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