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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: angevil on August 04, 2010, 01:04:17 PM
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I am interested to see which kind of Castlevania games do fans on this board want and prefer to play. Of course, I am not talking about the 3D image (with 3D glasses), but about the gameplay dimensions. If you like both, you can vote which one would you prefer for the next CV game, that is yet to come in future.
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It's really either for me, but after seeing how successful some games are in 3d, like Ninja Gaiden and Devil May Cry, I think it's possible for CV to do as good. So I'd like to see a successful one.
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I want both 2D and 3D for Castlevania. After Lords of Shadow I will probably wanna play a new 2D game just to mix things up. Or maybe I'll like LoS so much that I want another 3D one straight away.. dunno. Point is, I want Castlevania to do both styles and not get caught in either pixel nostalgia nor 3D hype.. Give us BOTH, and do it well.
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I actually like both, but I like 2D a little better. Also, the 2.5D of DXC wasn't that bad either. For me, it's really a question of side-scrolling or not. The only problem I have with the existing 3D CVs is that the level design is way too repetitive.
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If they do 2D gameplay, they should do a 2.5D game like DXC, only on a console.
They could also do it like the SUPER-AWESOME "Muramasa: The Demon Blade" and "Odin Sphere" titles. Those are soooo beautiful.
If they do it in 3D, make it like Dante's Inferno... maybe not nearly as stylized as Bayonetta, but at times I was playing Dante's Inferno and I though "You know, if I squint really hard, this could totally be like a new Castlevania game" and when I was climbing ropes and swinging I though "Man, they should remake Belmonts' Revenge this way, it would be SO AWESOME".
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If there were a third "either way" option, I'd choose that. I've enjoyed both for different, but similar, reasons.
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Where's the "both" option?
I just can't choose one dimension over the other, I want both 2D and 3D Castlevania games.
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And, what about the "I don't know. My mind was recently violated by a dark priest." choice?
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I want both, but I choose 3D, seeing as there aren't that many CV games in that style. 2.5D would have to be more ideal for me, though, and I would love to see a remake of Simon's Quest or Dracula's Curse in that format.
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Both.
As long as game is good I don't care in how many dimensions it done.
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I'd choose both too. But for me a good 3D CV game should be done in the style of the two 64 titles and not the LoI/CoD style. Also I think we could really use another 2.5D like DXC, but like George said "Put it on a console".
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Nothing against 2D but Ive just grown tired of them over the past few years, I would prefer a few new 3D games that get the job done then perhaps revisit 2D some time in the future. Personally I just need a change.
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I voted 2D, as they're my favorites, but I enjoyed the 3D ones too!
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They could also do it like the SUPER-AWESOME "Muramasa: The Demon Blade" and "Odin Sphere" titles. Those are soooo beautiful.
Konami: BUT TAHT WOLD LIEK, COST MONEEZ :( I KNO LETS MAEK MGS6 INSTED
Cynicism aside, yeah, I'd like both 2D and 3D titles.
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SOTN proved 2D can still be epic.
But....
Next Gen platforms deserve this gaming legend perfected in 3D.
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Castlevania has been very well adapted in 3D with both N64 games. :-*
No absurd multi-combo like Devil May Cry
No absurd storyline unlike Lament of Shit
No lame level design unlike Curse and Lament of Shit
Good difficulty like all other past Castlevania unlike Curse and Lament of S...(you guess) ;)
So 2D can provide good Castlevania games, and 3D as well !
See series like Metal Gear, Metroid, Zelda, Mario, Ninja Gaiden...they were great in 2 :P
AND ALSO in 3D ! So why Castlevania should be always doomed to stay in 2D ???!!?? :-\
Really I don't know....ah, yes, it's "that" IGA who runs the franchise...
Go to hell you hairy producer ! 8)
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Alright alright, calm down. The hateful bile needs to be toned down a bit, though I can understand your sentiment.
I don't mind some comboing. Hell, I did some combos in LoD. You can slide-attack, and use your short-range weapon at the same time, which was neat.
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I'm the only one who will like to see a new 8Bit Castlevania? :-X
That will be great. I think that Castlevania is not perfect and they could make a great new NES-style game . Otherwise i believe Treasure would make a great new 2.5D game.
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I'm the only one who will like to see a new 8Bit Castlevania? :-X
That will be great. I think that Castlevania is not perfect and they could make a great new NES-style game . Otherwise i believe Treasure would make a great new 2.5D game.
I second that notion, sir!
It'd also be nice to see a friggin compilation disc of all the 8 bit and 16 bit titles.....
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There sorta was one for the PC. The Castlevania & Contra Collection.
Only had the NES titles, though.
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There sorta was one for the PC. The Castlevania & Contra Collection.
Only had the NES titles, though.
Yes, but I am a console whore. Should've specified I suppose.
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I don't mind some comboing. Hell, I did some combos in LoD. You can slide-attack, and use your short-range weapon at the same time, which was neat.
I know. What's with the combo hate? It's not like LoS isn't going to feature combos either. The gameplay we've seen seems to rely on different combo chain attacks as well.
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misguided statements here
Castlevania 64 was a shit game. The end.
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Your opinion is not the word of God, certainly not here. Not the end.
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Castlevania 64 was a shit game. The end.
(nods)
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(nods)
*brofist*
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Not the end.
Exactly.
As for me Castlevania 64 was one of the best games in the whole series. It has great atmosphere, awesome music, interesting and diverse level design, nice graphics (not by modern standarts of course) and more or less good story. Something that newer 'vanias could certainly learn.
Controls never really bothered me that much, though it took some time to learn how to tame the camera, but by the middle of the game I get a hang of it and didn't see it as a gamebreaking thing or something horribly bothersome.
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I know. What's with the combo hate? It's not like LoS isn't going to feature combos either. The gameplay we've seen seems to rely on different combo chain attacks as well.
Did you just say that LoS isn't going to feature combos, but then say that the gameplay seems to rely on combos?
I guess I would be fine with combos if the weapon was used in a more realistic way or whip way. LoS kinda has Gabriel using this weapon with extreme range and glowing that just turns me off. Though I also think the combo emphasis usually detracts from a smoother unification of platforming and combat, which I think is a key feature of Castlevania.
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Do you want 2D or 3D Castlevania?
Either is fine.
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I've never played Castlevania 64, but I played Legacy of Darkness a year or so ago and just loved it. It's actually one of my favorite Castlevanias now, easily trumping the PS2 titles.
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I'd like both, however the only was CV could be good in 3D is actually Trying to go 3D, a lot of franchises had to experiment with the formula to achieve greatness (POP for example) and I think CV is a little late to the party, so, I'd like to see more 3D :)
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No absurd multi-combo like Devil May Cry
What? I love combo. Especially Leon's whip combos, If only Lords of Shadow had the same whip gameplay and sound effects like Lament of Innocence, it would be perfect.
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If only Lords of Shadow had the same whip gameplay and sound effects like Lament of Innocence, it would be perfect.
Not quite. Leon's whip attacks in LoI were lacking in range attacks that would've been way more beneficial then relaying on short-ranged combo attacks all the time. Trevor had the same issues in CoD. The only 3D games to support a long ranged attack was the two 64 titles. That's what LoI and CoD were missing, powerful, long ranged attacks like in CV64.
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Castlevania 64 was a shit game. The end.
Castlevania 64 doesn't exist. Megaman 64 exists. Super Mario 64 exists. But the name of the USA (and European) versions are...just Castlevania. Thank you. And it's the best entry for 3D for the series (my opinion of course, but I've got many friends who think the same).
Playing in Dracula's Castle in COD just made me threw up. I was ill during 1 week after having see all these long and stupid all-the-same corridors. What sacrilege to the saga.
PS : you're right, dear Administrator, I need to calm down. It's just...passion, I'm sure you can understand that.
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I remember this guy a while back that kept saying "castlevania 4 doesn't exist. It's SUPER Castlevania IV that exists!" You're probably that same guy.
The box may say "Castlevania," but websites, this board, and all of the internet call it CV64. Why? Cuz that's the way it is. Sorry if that hurts your feelings in any way.
Only logical thing you've said thus far, on this forum is that CoD's castle sucks.
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I remember this guy a while back that kept saying "castlevania 4 doesn't exist. It's SUPER Castlevania IV that exists!" You're probably that same guy.
Sorry but no, I don't know who is this guy (but he's right, it's Super Castlevania IV and not castlevania 4). It doesn't make any debates because that's the way it is.
The box may say "Castlevania," but websites, this board, and all of the internet call it CV64. Why? Cuz that's the way it is. Sorry if that hurts your feelings in any way.
No problem Crisis, I'm not hurt. I understand your point of view, but honestly, who's right here ?
- What's written on boxes, manual, cartridges and what is Konami's will ?
- Or you and all these Internet guys, who sometimes know absolutely Nothing about Castlevania ?
It's not because "everyone" talks about Castlevania 64 that it prooves you're right. In the ancient times, Galilée said Earth was a cercle, not flat. Nobody trust him, and his was condamned to shut his mouth... but who was right ? Mass people don't always have "right" because they can all make the same mistake. And Internet means nothing. I often read and listen from "video games professional reporter" that Igarashi created Castlevania. They should verify their information, but who cares ? Many people then, say the same mistake they heard, and that's the way it works.
Only logical thing you've said thus far, on this forum is that CoD's castle sucks.
I'm happy you agree at least with something I said ! I have nothing to proove dear Crisis, so everyone can talks freely, even if their point of view is different from the general point of view we can read everywhere. If we respect each other, there's no problem at all.
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Why are we arguing about such a stupid detail? People use Castlevania 64 to clear up the confusion on which Castlevania they're referring to. What, do you want us to refer to it as Castlevania for the Nintendo 64 or something? Might as well slam people for using abbreviations.
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This is nitpicking way too far.
If you say "Castlevania 64" people will either assume you mean the N64 version, or "maybe" (in extreme context), the Commodore 64.
There's no need to get anal about it.
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If you say "Castlevania 64" people will either assume you mean the N64 version, or "maybe" (in extreme context), the Commodore 64. There's no need to get anal about it.
Castlevania for N64 is clear, simple, it's just 3 letters more and there's no confusion with everything. By the way, I didn't know the expression "get anal", thanks a lot !
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Confusion? Are you kidding? No individual with a brain will get confused over the usage of the term CV64.
If you don't want to get called out for saying dumb things, then don't say dumb things.
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In this forum, we say CV64, or Castlevania64.
If you start correcting people over something that trivial, people will not take you seriously.
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Castlevania 64 doesn't exist. Megaman 64 exists. Super Mario 64 exists. But the name of the USA (and European) versions are...just Castlevania. Thank you. And it's the best entry for 3D for the series (my opinion of course, but I've got many friends who think the same).
Playing in Dracula's Castle in COD just made me threw up. I was ill during 1 week after having see all these long and stupid all-the-same corridors. What sacrilege to the saga.
PS : you're right, dear Administrator, I need to calm down. It's just...passion, I'm sure you can understand that.
yeah they're "friends" alright
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Paletteswapmonster:
How you're posting again is beyond me, but I will remedy this situation if I see you causing trouble... which you are starting to with your one-liner responses (they count as spam). You're on thin ice.
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lol
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paletteswap spam
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Confusion? Are you kidding? No individual with a brain will get confused over the usage of the term CV64.
If you don't want to get called out for saying dumb things, then don't say dumb things.
How rude.
So I will just explain something to you. A young guy who would like to begin a collection will try to get that famous CV64 writting it, but honestly it isn't the Official game title, so it's not sure he will match with something. It's not me who decided that the name was simply Castlevania, it's Konami. So I don't understand why you're agressive like that towards me, it's non-sense.
Yes Jorge, you used to call it that way. That's your very right, and you can continue to do that if you want. Of course. But keep in mind I'm not telling bullshit here.
OK for shortcut like SOTN, AOS, DOS and so. It allows to gain some time. But Castlevania 64 isn't a shortcut in comparison with Castlevania for N64 (just 3 letters more). And Castlevania 64 doesn't exist, it's not like Pilotwings, Doom, and many other N64 titles. Honestly, I don't know why but that's not my business and that's not my decision.
Konami rules.
End of discussion guys, I think all points of view have been read here. (personally, I admit I understand nothing about that paletteswap guy^^)
So 2D or 3D ? I just want GOOD games, either 3D or 2D. And as a Huge Fan of the series, I really would like to see a Good Next Gen Castlevania. That's all. To see the end of the malediction started with LOI and COD.
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Oh geez.
How rude.
You're the one that came on here spewing your misguided opinions & treating them like they're facts. "That's not only my point of view, that's just the reality." gtfo here with that noise.
So I will just explain something to you. A young guy who would like to begin a collection will try to get that famous CV64 writting it, but honestly it isn't the Official game title, so it's not sure he will match with something. It's not me who decided that the name was simply Castlevania, it's Konami. So I don't understand why you're agressive like that towards me, it's non-sense.
This imaginary young guy should educate himself then (or maybe it was you that made a fool out of yourself). You're like the freshman that walks into the school trying to "tell everyone like it is," and we look at you like "lol who's this guy"
If you see a listing in a store or whatever with a bunch of Castlevania titles on it, and one says Castlevania 64, will you say in your mind "that game can't be for N64 cuz that title isn't real."
OK for shortcut like SOTN, AOS, DOS and so. It allows to gain some time. But Castlevania 64 isn't a shortcut in comparison with Castlevania for N64 (just 3 letters more).
This sentence doesn't make a lot of sense. "Castlevania for N64" is 3 letters more than CV64?
And Castlevania 64 doesn't exist, it's not like Pilotwings, Doom, and many other N64 titles. Honestly, I don't know why but that's not my business and that's not my decision.
With that logic, I can say the U.S. doesn't exist, only the United States of America cuz that's what's written on the Constitution.
Welcome to the forums!
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Innovator, with all due respect, you can call it "Castlevania for N64". That's fine.
But don't tell the rest of the forum not to call it "Castlevania64" just because you don't like it.
It may be true that the title is only "Castlevania". But it has become common practice to call that game "Castlevania 64" in order to avoid confusion with Castlevania (NES), Castlevania (Commodore), Castlevania (Amiga), Castlevania (PC-DOS), and Castlevania (Mobile).
If you say "Castlevania 64" everyone here in the forum will know what you're talking about.
If you say "Castlevania for N64" everyone will question why you're needlessly typing letters.
You will not change the general consensus of the entire forum, no matter how true what you say is.
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You will not change the general consensus of the entire forum, no matter how true what you say is.
I totally agree.
Human being is at the same time complex and too lazy.
When a general consensus is taken against truth, nothing can remove it.
Or with a lot of time, but we need to be very patient to see welcoming changes.
Just philosophy...
(I already said this debate was over on previous com, sorry for disturbing this topic)
PS : Crisis, if you want to speak about a thing totally different, please do it in the correct subject. Thanks !
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Where is my Castlevania ReBirth 2 Konami
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PS : Crisis, if you want to speak about a thing totally different, please do it in the correct subject. Thanks !
Sure. Lets talk about Galilée and how he said the Earth was a cercle, not flat.
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Sure. Lets talk about Galilée and how he said the Earth was a cercle, not flat.
Good point for you, dear. I appreciate your sense of humor, at least !
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Where is my Castlevania ReBirth 2 Konami
Here here!
I totally want this. :D
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Rebirth had some really interesting level design, I'd love to see something more than a Rebirth. A full fledged classic title.
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Rebirth 2 should bring Sonia Belmont back into canon.
Or.
Konami should outsource Castlevania to Wayforward, same team behind Contra 4 to get cracking on Castlevania V for 3DS.
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Rebirth 2 should bring Sonia Belmont back into canon.
Amen.
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I'm quite fond of Rebirth. It wasn't quite 'adventure' Rebirth, but it was a fine game. Very reminiscent of the classic ones (even has six areas, just like CV1). If they do a part 2 it's gonna be cool what with the mini-castles (if they follow Belmonts' Revenge).
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Rebirth 2 should bring Sonia Belmont back into canon.
Oh hell yes, bring it on!! 8)
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Where is my Castlevania ReBirth 2 Konami
YES!
Or at least put up Haunted Castle on the Arcade VC.
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I hope it brings back Desmond Belmont.
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Or at least put up Haunted Castle on the Arcade VC.
WHY
HAUNTED CASTLE IS ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE
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I'd rather have Haunted Castle ported over say something like Harmony of Despair.
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uzo's got a point. Haunted Castle was a b***h to get through but satisfying none-the-less. It is also an arcade classic with traditional castlevania gameplay, something IGA has yet to return to.
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traditional castlevania gameplay, something IGA has yet to return to.
What about ReBirth, and DXC? Sure DXC is a remake, but ReBirth is essentially a new game entirely, since it barrows next to nothing from Adventure.
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I was referring to an 'original' game built from the ground, up. Rebirth is, in many definitions, an original game. But at the same time, it's not.
And DXC is just a 2.5D remake of Rondo. I want to see and play an original classic-styled CV game. I want to see IGA crank one out...if that's possible.
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So you want Castlevania 5?
I'm completely up for it, make it happen Konami.
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Here here! I totally want this. :D
Rebirth 2 ? Why not !
But 2 things Konami please :
- try to respect the original games better than that (no Adventure inside)
- NO download games ! I want Real games with Manual, Box and Cartridges ! eh, sorry, disc !
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- NO download games ! I want Real games with Manual, Box and Cartridges ! eh, sorry, disc !
Will never happen. Deal with it.
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Will never happen. Deal with it.
Hope is something really important. Why do Gamers, fans and collectors do not deserve the divine right to buy real games anymore ? There will be at least 6 versions for Lords of Shadow, with plenty stuff. To ask for one physical game with *only* Box and manual for Rebirth 2 --> isn't that much ?
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Rebirth 2 ? Why not !
Because a hairy old man will make it =p
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Because a hairy old man will make it =p
^ This.
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Akumajou Dracula Rebirth: Dark Night Recycle
MAKE IT HAPPEN
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I want both 2D and 3D for Castlevania. After Lords of Shadow I will probably wanna play a new 2D game just to mix things up. Or maybe I'll like LoS so much that I want another 3D one straight away.. dunno. Point is, I want Castlevania to do both styles and not get caught in either pixel nostalgia nor 3D hype.. Give us BOTH, and do it well.
well said.
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I like the controls of a 2D side scroller better than a god of war type game. Just how my brain is.
I wouldn't mind a 3D side scroller.
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I want both 2D and 3D for Castlevania. After Lords of Shadow I will probably wanna play a new 2D game just to mix things up. Or maybe I'll like LoS so much that I want another 3D one straight away.. dunno. Point is, I want Castlevania to do both styles and not get caught in either pixel nostalgia nor 3D hype.. Give us BOTH, and do it well.
QFT
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Honestly, after just beating rebirth and another playthrough of DXC, not to mention all the metroidvanias on nintendo handhelds, I know castlevania can not just work in 2d but also provide a wide variety of engaging playstyles. However after being baited on a line for all these years I think it's time to prove the series worth in 3d. CV64 nailed the atmosphere but forsake the controls, LOI sounded beautiful but lacked a proper game to back it up. Long story short coming from a long time lurker first time poster, people around my campus, friends, even some of my family members who used to play SCIV back in the day are excited for the next entry, and thats something i can say that really makes me smile. Thanks everyone!
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Konami should make a Castlevania game like this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxXycBv3Rlk&feature=player_embedded
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Watching Simon run around with a bubble shield would be kinda silly =p
But yeah, that looks way more polished than Sonic 4. I was gonna make a topic about that vid in the gaming section.
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Konami should make a Castlevania game like this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxXycBv3Rlk&feature=player_embedded
I agree, but with new elements added in there : levels / bosses / secret passages / enemies. I do not want exact replics of old games just in 2,5D or 3D. If it's just that kind of conversion, gamers who know their old games perfectly, will have nothing new to learn = bad experience (example : DXC, except the Hydra Boss and Final Dracula).
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I wouldnt mind DXC ported over to a console in HD, or an entirely new game. I think 2.5D is the way to go, Castlevania 64 was pretty cool but this series is not the same in 3D. One thing i'd like is a return to the darker elements of the game, im tired of this anime stuff. No metroidvania or anything to do with cards, or hit points. A side scroller with a soundtrack to rival CV IV or Rondo, multiple paths, endings, a Belmont! Set it in Transylvania, not in future Japan! Pretty much bring us the classic Castlevania we all love in full HD. I wouldnt even mind a full redo of Simons Quest, there could be a lot of improvements to that game
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I am the wind...I am the sun...then one day we'll all be one....
LOL
BARF!
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I am the wind...I am the sun...then one day we'll all be one....
LOL
BARF!
I can send you the entire song if you love it.
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I can send you the entire song if you love it.
;)
OH GOD NO, please.....LOL
I just got done revisiting an old quest to grab drop items, you know, then arrived at this....
So painful I had blocked it from my mind as one of the very very few painful things about CV I have ever experienced.....Then the Kenny G-esque sax comes in....I wanted to cry.
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OH GOD NO, please.....LOL
I just got done revisiting an old quest to grab drop items, you know, then arrived at this....
So painful I had blocked it from my mind as one of the very very few painful things about CV I have ever experienced.....Then the Kenny G-esque sax comes in....I wanted to cry.
Hey Pal, you're right ! That ending is a real shit, for sure
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Hey Pal, you're right ! That ending is a real shit, for sure
Not to mention Konami was good enough to make it so you HAVE to sit all the way through the quasi romantic brutality in order to see your completion percentage.
Ha, in retrospect, I imagine Kratos pummeling the crap out of his family listening to that song as part of his godly service....lol.
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I just added a forum plugin that is supposed to make the thing easy and painless.
Please let me know, guyz. :P
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2D Castlevania games are the best and always will the best. Now I'm not saying that LoI and CoD were bad, they just weren't as good as their 2D counterparts :)
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2D Castlevania games are the best and always will the best. Now I'm not saying that LoI and CoD were bad, they just weren't as good as their 2D counterparts :)
Agreed, but I think that maybe LoI and CoD were experiments in a way....
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LoI was the exparament. It was a failed exparament. So they tried again with CoD. Same thing happened, twice in a row: Failure. And they made it worse. :P
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So painful I had blocked it from my mind.....I wanted to cry.
I just muted it and did something else for five minutes...ok, four and a half...
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I just muted it and did something else for five minutes...ok, four and a half...
LOL, yes, it is usually my time to take a shower. Wash all that nastiness from my soul, Lady Macbeth style.
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I'd be happy if I found out the next Igavania was a 2.5D console metroidvania. It'd be a nice little niche for him to continue making new games while Mercury Steam rolls out the next couple full 3D ones.