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Title: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on November 07, 2010, 03:41:30 AM
Fanvision is making the REAL, REAL FAN movie! (in Italy)
With a Famous actors, Ancient castles and Special effects!

Links :

1) Official Trailer - www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqtGucdfGyg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqtGucdfGyg#ws)
2) Interview at the local TV - www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxdit2k0-fU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxdit2k0-fU#ws)
3) Movie Casting - www.youtube.com/watch?v=grla8QlpvFA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grla8QlpvFA#ws)
4) Location Photos - www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_-QFnROPYs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_-QFnROPYs#ws)

So, in 2011 we're getting TWO Castlevania Movies:
one official (by Konami) and one "unofficial" (by Fanvision)
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Richter on November 07, 2010, 06:55:08 AM
Well it's good to see fan projects being made, I have no idea what was going on in your trailer. Also, there is no official movie in 2011.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on November 07, 2010, 07:35:17 AM
More info about the upcoming movie (by Fanvision) :

The name for this movie is "Vampire Killer Nova Era",
was chosen (instead of "Castlevania") to avoid any lawsuits from Konami.
ALL the other things (characters, spirit, idea) were taken from the Castlevania games.
So this is TRUE Castlevania movie. They have the Great cast and professionals,
such as martial arts master, who has played stage with Jet Li and Jackie Chan.
http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Vampire_Killer_Nova_Era (http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Vampire_Killer_Nova_Era)
http://www.fanvision.webs.com/ (http://www.fanvision.webs.com/)

Konami is making the "Castlevania" movie too!
But the current status is unknown. It's going to be released in 2011, but maybe it will be delayed again.
http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Castlevania:_The_Movie (http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Castlevania:_The_Movie)
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Sumac on November 07, 2010, 12:45:24 PM
Quote
They have the Great cast and professionals,
such as martial arts master, who has played stage with Jet Li and Jackie Chan.
Martial artists in Castlevania movie?  :o
Why it sounds a bit...strange.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Inccubus on November 07, 2010, 05:40:01 PM
I thought the official CV movie was thankfully indefinitely on hiatus?
I read the script outline and it was crap.
It was like Anderson really wanted to remake Dracula and was forced to do it in a CV context using Simon as the lead.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Nagumo on November 08, 2010, 12:13:00 AM
The new director James Wan and some producer are trying to get a proper budget for the film. That's the last thing I heard about it at least.       
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Valtiel on November 08, 2010, 12:25:02 AM
The core problem right now is that with the current Hollywood creativity standards it would be a total pain making a CV movie that isn't just Van Helsing with a whip.

While it didn't capture the magic of CV, Van Helsing definitely "stole" the subject, the characters, the timeframe, the historical period, the castle design, the "family vs Dracula" theme, even stuff like silly subweapons and the overall goofyness of the saga. In many, many ways (mostly wrong but hey) Van Helsing feels like a CV movie.

Besides, in their current state "genre movies" are essentially "Micheal Bay for dummies". And CV makes the familiar un-familiar. Imagine a script that tries to explain to the target of such movie (ie everyone and their granny) that the villain they're so familiar with isn't exactly what they are used to and he resurrects every 100 years and Death is his lackey and he's got a dhampyr son and there's a family that hunts him every time and there goes half the movie in convoluted exposition. And here insert the inevitable "ok this story is great but we're Hollywood and we will improve it somehow" twist, which, if we are lucky, is gonna be that Dracula is actually an alien and the Vampire Killer is turned into a 19th century machine gun and Rinaldo Gandolfi invented the first holy-water-powered motorcycle.


I could write a coherent story for a CV movie that would work for the fans. I doubt anyone could write a story that would both please the fans and pass the scrutiny of the producers.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: corneliab on November 08, 2010, 01:00:51 AM
Just saw that trailer.

Why are these people even bothering? It's amateurish to the core. Yuck.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: thernz on November 08, 2010, 04:46:57 AM
first holy-water-powered motorcycle.
Belmont on holy-water-powered motorcycle fighting off skeletons in motorcycle please.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Valtiel on November 08, 2010, 05:38:30 AM
Belmont on holy-water-powered motorcycle fighting off skeletons in motorcycle please.

Imagine the trailer. Shot 70s style.

Ominous music and camera panning of a girl running at night in the woods...

Voiceover: "For centuries, evil has returned to torment the land of the living..."

The girls moves out of the scene, and you hear the typical offscreen scream as she's caught.

"But TONIGHT one man will put an end to it, forever"

Camera panning of the holy-powered motorcycle rear wheel spinning and lifting dust...


"Gerald Butler is Simon Belmont..."

insert closeup

"... a hero on an impossible mission..."

shots of Simon whipping some CG skeletons

"... Shia laBoeuf is John Morris, his trusted spunky sidekick..."

closeup of laBoeuf dressed like a cowboy and gunning down werewolves

"... and Rihanna is Marie Renhart"

let your imagination fly


"... a sexy witch in the making..."

shot of the singer naked for some preposterous reason

"... who choose to side with Simon against the forces of evil. Against them the legions of hell will be unleashed, including Samuel L. Jackson as Shaft, Rose McGowan as Carmilla and introducing..."

long ominous camera panning

... "George W. Bush as Count Dracula".

Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: thernz on November 08, 2010, 05:57:30 AM
The lack of CV64 characters is disappointing. :(
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Valtiel on November 08, 2010, 06:23:40 AM
The lack of CV64 characters is disappointing. :(

Not mainstream enough.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Nagumo on November 08, 2010, 07:27:12 AM
I could write a coherent story for a CV movie that would work for the fans. 
             

Now I'm curious.

Anyway, if I would make a film about CV then the first thing I would do is to make sure I had enough room to push my own ideas by either asking permission to tell the story of an untold event in the timeline or by making it an AU if I really had to. Though most people would probably consider that a pretty big fuck you, so yeah.           

But who am I kidding. ;___;     
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on November 08, 2010, 09:13:56 AM
Just saw that trailer.
Why are these people even bothering? It's amateurish to the core. Yuck.

I've forgotten to tell you the one very important thing.
The trailer was made BEFORE the decision to create this movie!
The 3D effects were made by just one man (by Diego Vida himself)
and it was shot by just two men (one was holding the camera)!
So, there is no surprise that, despite of the exciting atmosphere of this trailer, the quality is "not so good".

But the film will be WAY BETTER, and it will be "really professional", unlike the trailer.
And Diego Vida (director/producer) is hardcore Castlevania fan (like we are :))
so I believe that the film is in the good hands.

P.S. You can send to Diego Vida all your ideas about the upcoming movie.
This is a chance for YOU to become the part of Castlevania!
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Valtiel on November 08, 2010, 09:21:31 AM
             

Now I'm curious.




I'm not flaunting unprecedented writing skills; fact is, pleasing fans is incredibly easy. If I said "please fans and write a good movie" I would have raised a challenge, but pleasing fans? Just drown the script in fanservice, stick to the original material and you're good to go.

A CV movie for the fans wouldn't be that hard to write. A pre-title sequence foreshadowing or depicting Dracula's origins; a first action sequence of the unnamed hero pulling some whip stunts on some creatures in ominous looking woods (but in daylight, building the tension but not delving deep into horror-themed material yet). At this point...

... in a normal movie you'd need to insert something like, well, a cast. Other characters. The hero gets the village at the foots of the mountain where Drac's castle is. We're introduced to the love interest. We get to know who he is. We get some exposition on the story.

But we can skip that. It's a movie for the fans. They don't need explanations. I can drop in that Drac is reborn every 100 years without much explanation - they already know. Heck, I can have Simon enter the castle 20 minutes into the movie, no question asked, and have him meet the Girl™ or the Supporting Cast Sacrifice™ inside the castle and keep the movie afloat by throwing the fanservice around at every corner. And as a fan, I would be probably pleased by 90 minutes of nonstop fanservice action with daggers and whips and thrown axes and holy cross lightbombs. More than with a movie that raped the game's continuum in order to have a narrative.

However, such movie would be unwatchable for nonfans. That's why I mark the difference between a movie that pleases the fan and a good movie that pleases the fan. The second is horribly hard to realize because it would require you to re-interpret the source material (it can't stand on its legs in terms of narrative, pacing and story) and doing so while pleasing fans is very hard. I would also assume there's some sort of curse looming over making a movie about a videogame while still aiming at having a movie that works as a film on its own, because everyone who tried failed miserably.

Think of all the Street Fighter tie ins: they stomped on the source material in order to make a more universal product, and made horrible movies that displeased the fans.
The tie-ins that *sort* of worked? Mortal Kombat. Silent Hill (till the last 20 minutes at least). As movies they were fairly terrible, but they stuck to faithful fanservice and the fans appreciated them for it.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Richter on November 08, 2010, 10:36:01 AM
I've forgotten to tell you the one very important thing.
The trailer was made BEFORE the decision to create this movie!
The 3D effects were made by just one man (by Diego Vida himself)
and it was shot by just two men (one was holding the camera)!
So, there is no surprise that, despite of the exciting atmosphere of this trailer, the quality is "not so good".


Stop calling it a trailer then, please. If it's a pre-vis or an effects test call it that. "Trailer" implies it's been cut from a finished product and will give the watcher a plot synopsis and a few reasons to see the full feature. This doesn't really give either of those.

If you want to make a proper CV movie, all you have to do is follow the games. Hollywood consistently fails to do this, because they either think they know better or are just too stupid to see what made the source material popular in the first place. Pick a game with more than one character like Rondo or Draculas Curse, write some interaction and character development based on what exists already and pick a few choice battles to depict to get those action beats in there. Look at what you're up against with existing fan movies - most are terrible, but you want to aim at the ones that actually get it right. You should also consider hiring a good intepreter because some of the subtitle work leaves a lot to be desired.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: X on November 08, 2010, 12:07:46 PM
I hope they decided to drop the Belmont wielding a katana cause that was not good. Even though I love that type of sword, it just doesn't work with castlevania. And especially not with a Belmont.

-X
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Valtiel on November 08, 2010, 12:17:13 PM


If you want to make a proper CV movie, all you have to do is follow the games. Hollywood consistently fails to do this, because they either think they know better or are just too stupid to see what made the source material popular in the first place.

It's not that. As I outlined before, the source material is almost never good movie material (in CV's case, being faithful to the source material would be quite hard since there's hardly any story); sure you can do a movie "for the fans" by sticking to the source material like glue, but you'll almost never get a good movie, and more importantly you'll hardly get a movie you can sell to nonfans. And since fans aren't going to be a wide enough audience (a game with 3 million followers is considered "huge", but a movie that 3 million people see is a flop), you're not gonna break even.

It's not like Hollywood is completely made of idiots. The problem is that they're unable to translate these games in actual movies (often because the source material hardly lends itself to it) and when they try to "expand" the appeal of the product they often do so thinking that gamers are drooling drones.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Richter on November 09, 2010, 11:49:44 AM
No they nearly always completely ignore the original story line. Look at Resident Evil, it's a complete crock. Expanding a game plot is not hard, they are just retards. Breaking it down into 20 minute or half hour segments is damn simple. Their best idea of Castlevania is a horrible mess if script outlines are to be believed.

Castlevania in easy 30 minute steps without fucking it up:
Note - this would need multiple characters for a script to work, have Trevor and his companions for example. This would also allow development such as Alucard's inner demons, someone for Trevor to express his trouble over the family's repeating destiny.
Act 1: Character setup - The Belmonts (action beat: some monster killing, love interest gets kidnapped)
Act 2: Draculas Castle - atmosphere and mood setup (action beat: simple enemy battles, skeletons etc. Half way point - cliffhanger)
Act 3: Inner castle - caves / laboratory / clock tower exploration (action beat: death trap escape, larger character battle)
Act 4: Kickass finale - But enough talk have at you! (epic scene and some fan service, a badass D transformation everyone wins)
Alternate plots that could be expanded - the Soma Cruz storyline, Richter and Maria, Leon and Mathias. It's not hard, filmakers are just idiots.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: knightmere on November 09, 2010, 11:53:08 AM
I hate to be a negative nancy but...





THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO SUCK ASS!!!
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Munchy on November 09, 2010, 10:17:38 PM
I hate to be a negative nancy but...





THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO SUCK ASS!!!

Yeah pretty much. As wonky as it is, I think LoS is the best we could hope to get from a movie anyway...
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Valtiel on November 09, 2010, 11:44:15 PM
No they nearly always completely ignore the original story line. Look at Resident Evil, it's a complete crock. Expanding a game plot is not hard, they are just retards. Breaking it down into 20 minute or half hour segments is damn simple. Their best idea of Castlevania is a horrible mess if script outlines are to be believed.

Castlevania in easy 30 minute steps without fucking it up:
Note - this would need multiple characters for a script to work, have Trevor and his companions for example. This would also allow development such as Alucard's inner demons, someone for Trevor to express his trouble over the family's repeating destiny.
Act 1: Character setup - The Belmonts (action beat: some monster killing, love interest gets kidnapped)
Act 2: Draculas Castle - atmosphere and mood setup (action beat: simple enemy battles, skeletons etc. Half way point - cliffhanger)
Act 3: Inner castle - caves / laboratory / clock tower exploration (action beat: death trap escape, larger character battle)
Act 4: Kickass finale - But enough talk have at you! (epic scene and some fan service, a badass D transformation everyone wins)
Alternate plots that could be expanded - the Soma Cruz storyline, Richter and Maria, Leon and Mathias. It's not hard, filmakers are just idiots.

... and you'd have Van Helsing :P. Sure, change some names around but the format is essentially that.

My point is that most producers aren't confident that the source material can sell as a movie. They're stuck in a "ok this is good enough for toys, but for a BLOCKBUSTER we need to completely rewrite this stuff!" mentality.
Also, directors probably want to avoid sticking to close to the source material. I doubt you'll find a talented artist who's willing to apply for a "rewrite SCIV for the big screen and refrain from adding your own personal input" job.

It's nearly as simple as it sounds.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on November 10, 2010, 06:44:30 AM
Hooray! I have managed to establish the communication with Fanvision (Diego and his assistant Oscar) ! :)
Quote from: Diego
Fans can join us you're welcome.

So, if you have any ideas and thoughts about the upcoming movie, post them here! Discuss!
The best ideas will be delivered to Fanvision.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Richter on November 10, 2010, 10:56:28 AM
Uh that's what we've been doing....


Quote
... and you'd have Van Helsing

Really? Yuck. Wasnt the plot something stupid about Dracula breeding via Frankenstein's monster and that he could only be defeated by a werewolf? ROFL. Not to mention the rest of it outside the story was equally horrible. I suppose it was of that low quality a game adaptation usually is of. The high grade writing, directing and acting skills needed for a good CV movie are unlikely to be attached to any attempts.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: knightmere on November 10, 2010, 11:19:43 AM
Van Helsing wasn't that bad of a movie really. Though I really didn't like Dracula's character in it.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on November 12, 2010, 09:02:40 AM
Good ideas - They are essential for this movie!
Have you any new good ideas?

P.S. I have already delivered the previous pile of good ideas (not miserable :)) to Fanvision,
thanks to Valtiel and Richter, and I'm waiting for the second pile! :)
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Valtiel on November 12, 2010, 10:10:42 AM
I suppose it was of that low quality a game adaptation usually is of. The high grade writing, directing and acting skills needed for a good CV movie are unlikely to be attached to any attempts.

Pardon me, but exactly when did CV have high grade writing, good direction or anything resembling acting?

I'm ALL for wanting an enventual movie made by people of unquestionable talent and vision, but let's not start talking like there's some quality writing in the source material. Heck, Hollywood would need to make up a story because there's barely any to begin with.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Richter on November 12, 2010, 11:42:07 AM
Pardon me, but exactly when did CV have high grade writing, good direction or anything resembling acting?

I'm ALL for wanting an enventual movie made by people of unquestionable talent and vision, but let's not start talking like there's some quality writing in the source material. Heck, Hollywood would need to make up a story because there's barely any to begin with.

So you're saying that game adaptations are supposed to have game quality acting? Sorry, but in a game, the gameplay is all important, and in a movie, writing and acting are all important. No cross over. Plus making a bunch of stuff up is uncecessary, expanding the existing canon to fill 90 minutes of screen time is though.  So what if the classic games have about 30 minutes worth of story combined, talented film makers should be able to use their imagination without making a horrible mess of it.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: e105beta on November 12, 2010, 09:06:35 PM
So you're saying that game adaptations are supposed to have game quality acting? Sorry, but in a game, the gameplay is all important, and in a movie, writing and acting are all important. No cross over. Plus making a bunch of stuff up is uncecessary, expanding the existing canon to fill 90 minutes of screen time is though.  So what if the classic games have about 30 minutes worth of story combined, talented film makers should be able to use their imagination without making a horrible mess of it.

But there lies the problem. With 30 minutes of story, there's a lot of room for imagination, and what YOU see as a proper Castlevania movie might now be how the director sees it. This forum alone is proof about how fans can differ so greatly on what is "Castlevania"
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Vrakanox on November 12, 2010, 10:20:26 PM
Good ideas - They are essential for this movie!
Have you any new good ideas?

P.S. I have already delivered the previous pile of good ideas (not miserable :)) to Fanvision,
thanks to Valtiel and Richter, and I'm waiting for the second pile! :)

Make sure Alucard actually looks like Alucard. I mean in the first trailer, is that supposed to be him in the leather jacket and slicked back black hair? Also why is Leon Belmonts hair curly and black and why does he have a beard? They should try a little bit harder to make the characters look like the proper characters. It's a total B movie but I know I'll watch it  ;D
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Valtiel on November 13, 2010, 01:00:45 AM
So you're saying that game adaptations are supposed to have game quality acting? Sorry, but in a game, the gameplay is all important, and in a movie, writing and acting are all important. No cross over. Plus making a bunch of stuff up is uncecessary, expanding the existing canon to fill 90 minutes of screen time is though.  So what if the classic games have about 30 minutes worth of story combined, talented film makers should be able to use their imagination without making a horrible mess of it.

Point is, as I said above, that the source material can't sustain the narrative of a movie. And if the film makers add so much that the original elements fall in the background, the fans call it a rape of the source material.

Look at the Silent Hill movie: it added quite little to the original story, while featuring essentially all the original elements... and people still hated it.

The core problem here is that you could put ALL the CV elements in a single movie and still the stuff you'd add would take the front seat compared to that. A movie is mostly made of dialogue and character interaction, and that's nowhere to be found in the game. What's the personality of Simon, or Alucard, in the games? Let's say we make a movie with them. We need to "make up" the characters and we'll inevitably end up displeasing some fans because Alucard is too manly/too girly and Simon is too serious/too young/too buff/too thin etc. Or if they just keep them as they are people will complain the movie is terrible and the characters are cardboard thin and they don't live up to those complex shakespearian characters our imagination built over the pixelated sprites.

Anyone who had to work on a CV movie would have VERY little to work on; the potential for displeasing fans is enormous.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: thernz on November 13, 2010, 09:18:52 AM
Oh yeah I agree. Castlevania doesn't really have that substantial of a story to build off on. I mean, I guess, if a movie was made, the most successful adaptation without changing elements would be LoS. But I really don't find a lot of layers or character interaction in any of them. I mean, there may be potential to build off of Castlevania III with Sypha, Grant, and Alucard, than all the dynamics between the Belmonts and the Church, or witches and the church, ALUCARD AND DRACULA.
But in the end, it will just end up as some popcorn flick, and I rather not have one made then.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: X on November 13, 2010, 11:57:40 AM
What's the personality of Simon, or Alucard, in the games? Let's say we make a movie with them.

I say that Simon's personality is similar to Conan the Barbarian. As his early CV art would imply.

-X
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Munchy on November 13, 2010, 06:29:11 PM
Point is, as I said above, that the source material can't sustain the narrative of a movie. And if the film makers add so much that the original elements fall in the background, the fans call it a rape of the source material.

Look at the Silent Hill movie: it added quite little to the original story, while featuring essentially all the original elements... and people still hated it.

I think people hated the Silent Hill movie because the writing was terrible and took all the mystery out of it. (At least, that's what I hated about it. Looked great, though.)
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Nagumo on November 15, 2010, 09:01:00 AM
Does anyone remenber that poster from about a year ago for the offical film? Was that guy on the poster supposed to be Trevor or what?
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Richter on November 15, 2010, 10:09:44 AM
What's the personality of Simon, or Alucard, in the games? Let's say we make a movie with them.

I say that Simon's personality is similar to Conan the Barbarian. As his early CV art would imply.

-X

They are generally stoic archetypes, with a black and white motivation usually to vanquish; evil be it for revenge, love or simply to put themselves apart those who abuse their supernatural gifts/curses. Pretty standard even for a movie storyline. Humourless perhaps, but that's the point - this isn't Devil May Cry. What kind of personality would be carved by a lifetime of monster killing or a father who insists on persecuting the innocent? To be honest this leaves all sorts of good writing opportunities. Vampire mythos itself has plenty of stereotypes due to the nature of the human mind, something not built to withstand immortality. Building on a character with adding a lot of random BS is not so difficult.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on November 17, 2010, 08:43:45 AM
I must perform a research about Castlevania fans, and complete it until the next year
(because in early 2011 they will start to write a screenplay)
Of course, there is already a LOT of information at the Castlevania forums,
polls "best Castlevania game", "favorite Castlevania character" etc.
But there are some things that are not easy to find out.
So, I'm going to ask you several questions.

The first question is:
What do you think about old directors like Toru Hajiara (Symphony of the Night director)
Koji IGA Igarashi, and director Yamashita from Castlevania 64?
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: CristopherLee on November 17, 2010, 09:02:40 AM
Hi:

I'm Enrique, from Spain (sorry my english). I used to watch this forum in order to find news and interesting opinions about my favorite franchise... this is my first post.

Well, the idea of a Castlevania movie is IMPORTANT for me. I love this franchise since i was 8 years old.

I really want to see that live action movie that was planned since 2006. And i wish you the best of lucks in your fan-project, of course.

What do you think about old directors like Toru Hajiara (Symphony of the Night director)
Koji IGA Igarashi, and director Yamashita from Castlevania 64?


I really HATE the work of Igarashi. I don't hate him because he is a human being and, actually, I don't know him in person... but I think that most of his ideas during the years was AWFUL. The GBA and NDS Castlevania games are, in my opinion, a hideous piece of crap. I hate his stories and I hate his characters.

I don't know anything about Toru Hajiara. Well, I played Symphony of the night, of course, that is a great game... but not my favorite. that's all.

Castlevania 64 was a big dissapointment. I sold the game.

So, actually, no one of this three directors are a reference for me.

I really think a movie must go back into the roots of this saga: the idea of a lineage of bad-ass heroes destiny to fight the Greatest Evil (Count Dracula itself!!!). Simon were even cooler when we don't have a clue about the previous vampire hunters. And the Lord of the Undead must be a tiranic bastard, not a tragic anti-hero or something like that.

And, please, stop with origin stories. Origin stories are BORING. Only Christopher Nolan did it great in "Batman".
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Valtiel on November 17, 2010, 09:21:38 AM
Hi:

I'm Enrique, from Spain (sorry my english). I used to watch this forum in order to find news and interesting opinions about my favorite franchise... this is my first post.

Well, the idea of a Castlevania movie is IMPORTANT for me. I love this franchise since i was 8 years old.

What do you think about old directors like Toru Hajiara (Symphony of the Night director)
Koji IGA Igarashi, and director Yamashita from Castlevania 64?


I really HATE the work of Igarashi. I don't hate him because he is a human being and, actually, I don't know him... but I think that most of his ideas during the years was AWFUL. Most of the GBA and NDS Castlevania games are, in my opinion, a hideous piece of crap. I hate his stories and I hate his characters.

I don't know anything about Toru Hajiara. Well, I play Symphony of the night, of course, that is a great game... but not my favorite. that's all.

Castlevania 64 was a big dissapointment for me. I sell the game.

So, actually, no one of this three directors are a reference for me.

I really think a movie must go back into the roots of this saga: the idea of a lineage of bad-ass heroes destiny to fight the Greatest Evil (Count Dracula itself!!!). Simon were even cooler when we don't have a clue about the previous vampire hunters. And the Lord of the Undead must be a tiranic bastard, not a tragic anti-hero or something like that.

And, please, stop with origin stories. Origin stories are BORING. Only Christopher Nolan did it great in "Batman".

Hello and welcome onboard!
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: X on November 17, 2010, 11:05:07 AM
Welcome to the forums  :)

What do you think about old directors like Toru Hajiara (Symphony of the Night director)
Koji IGA Igarashi, and director Yamashita from Castlevania 64?

I wouldn't let IGA do any of the CV movies. At all. He'd mess'em up like he did with our CV VG franchise *Cough!* Mathias *Cough!* SotN was an awesome game so coodos to the director. CV64 I also enjoyed. Maybe not back in the day but definitly now. So this director is also a favorable choice.

-X
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Vampirvania1096 on November 17, 2010, 11:16:36 AM
Hey guys maybe you don't understood Belmonto topic, he said:
Which directors do you prefer of old Castlevania, so not means like IGA or Toru, Or others must be the director movie, is different attention.
As for my self as director game I prefer IGA, and Toru, but please not Lords of Shadow, cause is not Castlevania I already finished and I'm very disappoint, the style is different in some point when you climb the wall is like Prince of PErsia, when you ride the beast is like Golden Axe, when you use a combo is like God of War, music soundtrack is not like Castelvania style, so not Michiru Yamane, the location aren't dark the last boss is Satan and not Dracula, the are an Horse and an Eagle who speaka lot, the graphic seem like Prince of PErsia Ps3 first version, sorry by Mercurysteam made another game not Castlevania, so I hope that this guys for fan film don't shoot like LOS or will be a bad movie.
That's my opinion and very castlevania fans I think they knows.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: CristopherLee on November 17, 2010, 11:21:37 AM
Valtiel, X, thank you very much ;)

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but please not Lords of Shadow, cause is not Castlevania I already finished and I'm very disappoint, the style is different in some point when you climb the wall is like Prince of PErsia, when you ride the beast is like Golden Axe, when you use a combo is like God of War, music soundtrack is not like Castelvania style,

AGAIN with that??

C'mon people. "Lord of Shadows" is the first REAL Castlevania we have since "Rondo of blood". Everyone is speaking about the fealing of the game. But when I play LoS I actually can feel the Castlevania style... when I played "Aria of Sorrow" I only feel PAIN.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Vampirvania1096 on November 17, 2010, 11:24:54 AM
I know you are spanish and for you is good think Mercurysteam, and I didn't says that LOS isn't a bad game cause is a good game for other kind, but honestly is not Castlevania.
don't take as a personal feeling is just a discussion
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: CristopherLee on November 17, 2010, 11:39:21 AM
I don't love LoS because it is spanish. I must like flamenco and toros too? That's an absurd statement.

I love LoS because it is an AWESOME videogame. And because it reminds me of that old 8 bit epics.

Yes, it is Castlevania. It have action, adventure, good against evil, hordes of monsters, a Belmont, a whip, Carmilla, Death and the best origin story for Dracula in the whole saga. Of course it is Castlevania.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Vampirvania1096 on November 17, 2010, 11:44:03 AM
I hope for fan film, don't realize like LOS, cause isn't like Castlevania series!
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: SOTN85yea on November 17, 2010, 11:51:13 AM
I agrre with you, Lords of shadow disappoint me too, I prefer SOTN, Aria of sorrow, Dracula's Curse, Simon Quest, Circle of the moon, Lament of Innocent and Curse of darkness cause is like SOTN and as composer of course Michiru Yamane, then as game director style Toru or Iga is good, like movie director Stephen Sommers, like Van Helsing seems like Castlevania.  ;D
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: crisis on November 17, 2010, 12:03:16 PM
I love how people say "IGA's games are NOT castlevania," when they have just as much if not more in common with the classic style than LoS.


Aahh, opinions.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: SOTN85yea on November 17, 2010, 12:21:29 PM
LOS??? ha ha ha, very funny, I hope too better IGA or Toru from Symphony of the night!!!
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: C Belmont on November 17, 2010, 02:31:46 PM
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Yes, it is Castlevania. It have action, adventure, good against evil, hordes of monsters, a Belmont, a whip, Carmilla, Death and the best origin story for Dracula in the whole saga. Of course it is Castlevania.

That & arguably one of the worst Belmont origin stories in the saga :P
But regardless I agree & think it's a perfectly valid Castlevania game, it's certainly no less valid than any of Iga's deviations are despite LOS being so (painfully) different in places.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: SOTN85yea on November 17, 2010, 05:51:54 PM
Excuse me, have you seened the difference between old version, 2D version and LOS?
Have you seened that LOS looklike GOD of war?
Have you seened that LOS looklike Prince of Persia when he climb and descent the wall?
Have you seened that LOS looklike Golden Axe when he ride the beast?
Have you seened that LOS looklike Shadow of the Colossus for Ps2 when he fight against Titans?
Have you seened that LOS looklike Van Helsing when he fight against little bat?
Have you seened that LOS location aren’t dark like version before?
Have you hear the music soundtrack isn’t like Castlevania style? And not pure like Michiru Yamane composer.
So if you like 2D version I think some of IGA production Ayami Kojima design and Michiru Yamane music, why do you like LOS? Is not a Castlevania, and every fans lknow that…
So how can be possible?
The movie sequence aren’t direct like Ps2 and they were great like film, also the graphic of Konami Japanese computer is most powerful than Mercurysteam.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Valtiel on November 17, 2010, 11:51:09 PM
Have you seened that LOS looklike GOD of war?
Have you seen that Castlevania looks like Super Mario? That Super Castlevania IV looks like Strider Hiryu? That Symphony of the Night looks like Metroid?
It's a ridicolous argument. There aren't many ways a 3D game can look like, just as there aren't many ways a 2D game can look like, if you set you standards for telling them apart so low.

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Have you seened that LOS looklike Prince of Persia when he climb and descent the wall?
Yes, climbing by using your hands is a trademark of Prince of Persia. I demand every other game involving climbing has the protagonist using... mmmh, feet! No wait, Dante does that in Devil May Cry. Ok, I got it: for the next LoS game, the character should climb using his mouth. Biting his way to the top. For the sake of originality.

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Have you seened that LOS looklike Golden Axe when he ride the beast?
Indeed. Riding is such an unique mechanic and I wonder why Sega never copyrighted it. Imagine the money they would make over licensing it to Rockstar for Red Dead Redemption. Again, the next LoS game should be innovative and have the monsters ride Gabriel instead.

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Have you seened that LOS looklike Shadow of the Colossus for Ps2 when he fight against Titans?
Now that... yeeees. We saw it. We all commented it. Yes, it's shameless - but basically no game gave us SotC-like battles in years, so it didn't bother me much. The eye candy was amazing.

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Have you seened that LOS looklike Van Helsing when he fight against little bat?
I'm guessing you refer to gremlins? I didn't think of Van Helsing, but CV has often featured small or large flying humanoids throwing fireballs or similar attacks, so...
In fact, considering how Van Helsing shamelessly copied from CV, I think it's normal it would feel familiar.

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Have you seened that LOS location aren’t dark like version before?

Herr... no?

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Have you hear the music soundtrack isn’t like Castlevania style? And not pure like Michiru Yamane composer.
Yamane wasn't "CV style" when she took over the series and over time pushed out tracks that ended up being almost as iconic as the traditional ones. Maybe Aurajo will eventually. Maybe someone else will. Or we'll just get more remixes. Who knows!

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So if you like 2D version I think some of IGA production Ayami Kojima design and Michiru Yamane music, why do you like LOS? Is not a Castlevania, and every fans lknow that…
So how can be possible?
I don't know.... tastes? Maybe the last 126 games from IGA haven't been exactly stellar in quality and something new can be appreciated? Maybe there's no moral obligation to like Kojima's artwork (for example I love her style but I think she completely exaggerated in applying it to the CV brand, and I'm glad we're moving away from that)? Are you saying that the artwork in LoS is lacking? Because, quite frankly, everyone out there is recognizing it as a contender for the spot of 3D game with most impressive artwork in this generation.
Yes, it's not the same old stuff. No, it's not a crime. Yes, it could be better. No, we don't betray the CV Gods if we still like it.

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The movie sequence aren’t direct like Ps2 and they were great like film, also the graphic of Konami Japanese computer is most powerful than Mercurysteam.

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Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: CristopherLee on November 18, 2010, 01:52:09 AM
Thank you Valtiel. You express my thoughs better than myself  ;D
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Vampirvania1096 on November 18, 2010, 05:36:24 AM
no chance for your words, LOS is a bad game like Castlevania and about Symphony of the night is too original so forget Metroid and about Super Mario for Castlevania style you know the Platform? :)))
Toru Hajiara is one of the best director and of course better than director of LOS sure!!!
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Valtiel on November 18, 2010, 05:56:38 AM
I really wish I could make sense of what these new users are trying to say.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: CristopherLee on November 18, 2010, 06:26:24 AM
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no chance for your words, LOS is a bad game like Castlevania and about Symphony of the night is too original so forget Metroid and about Super Mario for Castlevania style you know the Platform? Smiley))
Toru Hajiara is one of the best director and of course better than director of LOS sure!!!

Well, this is barely English.

BTW, you can like or dislike Lord of Shadows. You can think that it is original or unoriginal, faithful or unfaithful to the saga. That's a matter of taste. But, in my sincere opinion, it is pretty obvious that it is one of the best games of this year and, even more important, the best (by far) 3D Castlevania ever made.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on November 18, 2010, 09:35:38 AM
Thank you!
Now let's go to the next question:

Music takes part in creation of the movie's atmosphere.
As far as I know, most Castlevania fans think that Symphony of the Night has the best music.
But there are a lot of epic Castlevania hits that were in other games.

What Castlevania hits are your favorite, and in your opinion are PERFECT for the movie?
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: CristopherLee on November 18, 2010, 09:59:51 AM
I am not a big fan of SOTN music. For me, the most interesting themes are on "Dracula battle perfect selection" and "Castlevania Judgament soundtrack", as I said on other topic. I love the heavy-metal remixes of the old tunes.

If I must choose only one Castlevania title for his music, I would choose Rondo of Blood. But, in the other hand, it have no "Simon's theme" that is my favorite videogame song of all time...

Oscar Araujo mades a great, cinematographical score for LoS, but, for a real movie I would prefer something closer to the old themes. For example, I would find PERFECT an orchestral version of "Bloody tears", "Dance of Illusions" during the final battle and, of course, some little hints of "Heart of fire" and "Vampire killer" in the whole score.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Vampirvania1096 on November 18, 2010, 10:15:20 AM
Enrique as your name I suggest to you speak spanish it's better for you cause your english is bad :)))) like LOS :))))
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Vrakanox on November 18, 2010, 11:05:38 AM
Thank you!
Now let's go to the next question:

Music takes part in creation of the movie's atmosphere.
As far as I know, most Castlevania fans think that Symphony of the Night has the best music.
But there are a lot of epic Castlevania hits that were in other games.

What Castlevania hits are your favorite, and in your opinion are PERFECT for the movie?


I always thought the Lament of Innocence soundtrack would work well with a movie or something similar since it has a lot of variety. If they are reall going to do a Castlevania movie though they need to have some of the very well known songs most of which were redone quite nicely on the Judgement soundtrack.

Also LOL at monsters riding Gabriel that part of your post cracked me up Valtiel!
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: X on November 18, 2010, 11:25:51 AM
A lot of the best Tracks were heard in Super Castlevania IV. This game had the atmosphere pinned down just right! I think that some of the most creepiest tunes in this game would undoubtedly complement a Castlevania movie very well.

-X
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: knightmere on November 18, 2010, 03:32:25 PM
Lets face it, unless a GOOD director actually picks up the Castlevania Movie, its going to probably end up being some B-Rated Steaming Pile of Poo.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: CristopherLee on November 19, 2010, 05:47:55 AM
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Lets face it, unless a GOOD director actually picks up the Castlevania Movie, its going to probably end up being some B-Rated Steaming Pile of Poo.
That's for sure, pal... that's for sure.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: SOTN85yea on November 19, 2010, 06:23:53 AM
Sure for what spanish? You don’t understand nothing of Castlevania’s world, cause you just like LOS (lords of shi.) as he wrote Vampirvania user, try to study good English…CLARO?  ;D
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on November 19, 2010, 07:58:54 AM
Sure for what spanish? You don’t understand nothing of Castlevania’s world, cause you just like LOS (lords of shi.) as he wrote Vampirvania user, try to study good English…CLARO?  ;D

No more offense, please.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on November 19, 2010, 08:05:35 AM
Lets face it, unless a GOOD director actually picks up the Castlevania Movie, its going to probably end up being some B-Rated Steaming Pile of Poo.

I believe that Diego Vida is a GOOD director.
Just read this page: http://fanvision.webs.com/apps/wiki/castlevania-fan-movie-interview (http://fanvision.webs.com/apps/wiki/castlevania-fan-movie-interview)
A small quote below:
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In these last 2 years the organization has been mastodontica, Diego has had to take care itself of all which regards a cinematographic production, from the subject, to the special scenario, to the casting, location, assembly video and effects, fotoritocco, public relation, direction of production, composer, now that they have become a composed square from many professionals has been able to divide the roles, Fabio Randazzo President of the Non Solo Some in Milan, in quality of its assistant to the production and coproduttore, are taken part sin from the beginning believing in this plan.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on November 19, 2010, 08:18:58 AM
The next question:

Would you like to see Alucard, Richter and Maria among the characters of the movie?
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: CristopherLee on November 19, 2010, 09:04:20 AM
Alucard is needed, of course.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: crisis on November 19, 2010, 09:42:07 AM
Iway ouldshay say,

Richtofer for the next move. Yes, yo read it good. I have lady next door.. I'm too confusé.
In fact with my hand accidented on the piano, & lied you,

Feel myself guilty  :( I want confess.
Richiter y Adriann will benefactor  ;)
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: thernz on November 19, 2010, 09:45:22 AM
I want Aeon in the movie. So then we can have an excuse to have EVERY BELMONT.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Vrakanox on November 19, 2010, 10:03:21 AM
The next question:

Would you like to see Alucard, Richter and Maria among the characters of the movie?

Alucard has to be in it since he's alive at every point in the story. Then depending on what year it's set in have the proper Belmont. Trevor would be cool. Just as long as they actually look like the characters in the game.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: e105beta on November 19, 2010, 10:58:09 AM
The next question:

Would you like to see Alucard, Richter and Maria among the characters of the movie?

Richter and Alucard, yes.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: CristopherLee on November 19, 2010, 03:58:36 PM
I would prefer to see good old Simon as the hero.

He is the one and only for me.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Ahasverus on November 19, 2010, 04:22:08 PM
No Alucard.
That character is very difficult to adapt, for him to be treated fairly he should be explored in dept, all his sorrow, internal confilct and stuff, however making a movie/game full of that would be little less than emo. I think Alucard is the kind of character that could be the spotlight in litterature... and only there; a CVgame/movie with the whole "I killed my father but I loved him" thing, neccesary to fully define Alucard by what he is, would be ridiculous in itself, emo as hell and kinda tasteless if badly managed, and let's accept it, Konami's writers are not preccissely Nobel-winners.

Good Luck Cox trying to upt it besides SImon Belmont next time and make it work in 20 hours. 2hours for Alucard in a movie? lol
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Munchy on November 19, 2010, 08:03:50 PM
I'm still of the mind that Lords of Shadow really had the best we could hope for from a CV movie (which is to say, not much outside of a few AAA actors). To make one now would be redundant, just plain terrible, or both.

Though if it were hilarious and terrible, I might still see it for laughs. Or if it weren't the fun kind of terrible, I might watch it just to suffer because that's just the kind of guy I am.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Ahasverus on November 19, 2010, 08:20:12 PM
Don't you think that Robert Carlyle looks soo much as Dracul? Let alone Patrick as Zobek and Jason as Satan, they are almost modeled after them
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Munchy on November 19, 2010, 08:58:00 PM
I really wouldn't be able to see Patrick Stewart's similarity unless the in-game Zobek were also bald. It's a trick of my eyes.

But Jason and Robert, definitely.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
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Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Rockerskull on November 20, 2010, 07:53:42 AM
I really wouldn't be able to see Patrick Stewart's similarity unless the in-game Zobek were also bald. It's a trick of my eyes.

But Jason and Robert, definitely.

LOS dam game, I prefer old directors sure cause Castlevania is good in 2D, anyway about LOS, Have they fixed error where the saved gamedata gets erased?
LOL
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Ahasverus on November 20, 2010, 08:00:42 AM
LOS dam game, I prefer old directors sure cause Castlevania is good in 2D, anyway about LOS, Have they fixed error where the saved gamedata gets erased?
LOL
Yeah, Troll.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Rockerskull on November 20, 2010, 08:05:29 AM
Yeah, Troll.

good for you Troll, and...why is it the more that I play Lords of Shadow I really want to be playing Lament of Innocence or Curse of Darkness? The mighty PS3 and 30, all this power and the game doesn't come close to these games. The music is not there, the mood is not there, the atmosphere is just not Castlevania. Add to that no map, no killer soundtracks, no control over the camera, and what happened to buying items at shops? That has always been a Castlevania trademark? PLEASE get the game back on track!
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Mr.Bushido on November 20, 2010, 08:07:42 AM
...

By the way ,Ahasverus, what happened with castlemaniacs? xD
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Valtiel on November 20, 2010, 08:19:05 AM
No Alucard.
That character is very difficult to adapt, for him to be treated fairly he should be explored in dept, all his sorrow, internal confilct and stuff, however making a movie/game full of that would be little less than emo. I think Alucard is the kind of character that could be the spotlight in litterature... and only there; a CVgame/movie with the whole "I killed my father but I loved him" thing, neccesary to fully define Alucard by what he is, would be ridiculous in itself, emo as hell and kinda tasteless if badly managed, and let's accept it, Konami's writers are not preccissely Nobel-winners.

Good Luck Cox trying to upt it besides SImon Belmont next time and make it work in 20 hours. 2hours for Alucard in a movie? lol

Well, Alucard could also be a very easy solution for a movie.

Have the movie be about a female Belmont. She meets up with this odd, powerful dude that is hunted down by human like a monster but doesn't kill them when he defeats them, enlists for his help to hunt down Dracula, he turns her down muttering something like "can't kill dad" (insert slightly more epic quote here), she goes, Drac ultimately defeats her and captures her, boom shaka shaka the second half is about Alucard changing his mind and going down to free CuteChick™ from daddy.

Insert high octane fighting with Matrix moves since he's a vampire-like dude.

Insert ridicolously exaggerated final fight between Alucard and Dracula.

Have him being played by a buff, blonde, good  looking dude. Have him fight bare chested. At night. In the rain. Slow-mo.

I can already see the trailers.


Jokes aside, it's definitely not what I'd want from a CV movie, but it would definitely work from a commercial perspective, probably better than any attempt to make a relatable Belmont protagonist when nobody knows who Belmonts are.
It may be a paradox, it may be the Twilight effect, but a "vampire" would be a much, much easier to pull off protagonist.


Edit:

I mean, you pull off a slightly more "attractive" version of this:

Prince Nuada, the ultimate warrior Elf (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxadxFjx_2Q#ws)

and you can have him pull off the movie with barely any need of dialogue/character development. Once again, I'm speaking from a purely commercial perspective. I share the same fantasy of a wonderfully written saga of drama and introspection over vampirism and duty. Even if it's quite likely that a mindless action movie would be closer to the game's roots than anything else.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Ahasverus on November 20, 2010, 08:21:07 AM
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good for you Troll, and...why is it the more that I play Lords of Shadow I really want to be playing Lament of Innocence or Curse of Darkness? The mighty PS3 and 30, all this power and the game doesn't come close to these games. The music is not there, the mood is not there, the atmosphere is just not Castlevania. Add to that no map, no killer soundtracks, no control over the camera, and what happened to buying items at shops? That has always been a Castlevania trademark? PLEASE get the game back on track!
No one takes you seriously, go away to harmony of despair thread or something, you lost me with this

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hat happened to buying items at shops? That has always been a Castlevania trademark?
Oh Yeah sure... CV I had soo many shops, also CVIII, and IV, and RoB and BloodLines and Adventure and Belmont's revenge... you like SOTN kid? lol

By the way ,Ahasverus, what happened with castlemaniacs? xD
Someone stole the money to pay the server :P It will be back soon.. kinda soon.. december I think - sad news but it's fine, there are no news at this moment and people, with difference of here, is really, really pleased with LoS so the whole discussion became "I love it because of this, I love it because of that" and, let's accept it, it became tiresome  :P Let's hope DLC packs to get announced soon and so when CManiacs were back we had something to discuss :) but thanks for asking! ^^
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Rockerskull on November 20, 2010, 08:35:52 AM
No one takes you seriously, go away to harmony of despair thread or something, you lost me with this

YOU GO AWAY, CAUSE U DON'T UNDERSTAND NOTHING ABOUT CASTLEVANIA, ANYCASE MANY FANS TOLD BEFORE ME, LOS IT'S A BAD GAME

should have been it's own game and story, this game is just not Castlevania. It's a little maybe good game for other title, don't get me wrong, but it just does not have what Lament and Curse had...I hope the rest of the fans admit it and speak up, cause you are fake!
and no problem I don't say more, cause other fans will speak soon, bye retar... dude  ;D
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Ahasverus on November 20, 2010, 08:37:57 AM
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ANYCASE MANY FANS TOLD BEFORE ME, LOS IT'S A BAD GAME
So you haven't played it?
.....
:Realises this is the movie thread:

So guys, if we had a movie, what would you it to be like? An origin story or treating the fight as an "absolute"?
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on November 20, 2010, 02:56:06 PM
I'm finding trouble figuring out what the hell is going on in this last page.
...but I don't like it.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Valtiel on November 21, 2010, 01:35:19 AM
I'm finding trouble figuring out what the hell is going on in this last page.
...but I don't like it.

It's the Hellboy trailer. I know, it's unsettling  ;D .
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on November 22, 2010, 04:28:40 AM
I'm talking about the random asshattery an flaming, not the video...
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Valtiel on November 22, 2010, 06:03:57 AM
I'm talking about the random asshattery an flaming, not the video...

I know, I know, I'm trying to lower the tension...
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on November 22, 2010, 07:34:19 AM
Oh alright.  Carry on, then. :P
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on November 22, 2010, 08:15:38 AM
Well, it seems that I have ran out of questions :P

Just post any ideas, suggestions, etc. that you want to be collected
The collection process will end December 3rd
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Vrakanox on November 22, 2010, 09:37:54 AM
Well, Alucard could also be a very easy solution for a movie.

Have the movie be about a female Belmont. She meets up with this odd, powerful dude that is hunted down by human like a monster but doesn't kill them when he defeats them, enlists for his help to hunt down Dracula, he turns her down muttering something like "can't kill dad" (insert slightly more epic quote here), she goes, Drac ultimately defeats her and captures her, boom shaka shaka the second half is about Alucard changing his mind and going down to free CuteChick™ from daddy.

Insert high octane fighting with Matrix moves since he's a vampire-like dude.

Insert ridicolously exaggerated final fight between Alucard and Dracula.

Have him being played by a buff, blonde, good  looking dude. Have him fight bare chested. At night. In the rain. Slow-mo.

I can already see the trailers.


Jokes aside, it's definitely not what I'd want from a CV movie, but it would definitely work from a commercial perspective, probably better than any attempt to make a relatable Belmont protagonist when nobody knows who Belmonts are.
It may be a paradox, it may be the Twilight effect, but a "vampire" would be a much, much easier to pull off protagonist.


Edit:

I mean, you pull off a slightly more "attractive" version of this:

Prince Nuada, the ultimate warrior Elf (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxadxFjx_2Q#ws)

and you can have him pull off the movie with barely any need of dialogue/character development. Once again, I'm speaking from a purely commercial perspective. I share the same fantasy of a wonderfully written saga of drama and introspection over vampirism and duty. Even if it's quite likely that a mindless action movie would be closer to the game's roots than anything else.

I'd watch it. I've never seen that movie but it's crazy how much that guy (at least when he's young in the beginning) looks like he could be Alucard. Alucard's my favorite Castlevania character but I still feel like there would have to be a Belmont in the movie. I've always wanted a Castlevania 3 themed movie. It's good because it's got more than one main character. They can BS some tension between them. Alucard and Trevor team up to kill Dracula. Sypha sleeps with Trevor. Grant cries and turns into that bandaged skeleton from Judgement.

Perfect movie

(just kidding about those last two parts)
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: CristopherLee on November 22, 2010, 11:45:11 AM
Simon is the Hero. Dracula is evil. Metal music. That's all I need  ;D
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: X on November 22, 2010, 11:45:55 AM
In all honesty I don't know if we'll ever get a good CV movie. Vampire Hunter D was as close as we could possibly get for such an epic film. It is not castlevania, but it might as well be cause it was so good.

-X
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on November 24, 2010, 12:09:28 PM
In all honesty I don't know if we'll ever get a good CV movie.

We will get it. Next year.
Your ideas and suggestions could make it even better!
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Richter on November 24, 2010, 12:58:56 PM
Vampire Hunter D was as close as we could possibly get for such an epic film. It is not castlevania, but it might as well be cause it was so good.

-X

I agree. Bloodlust is particularly nice.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on December 01, 2010, 08:38:54 AM
WARNING: you have 3 days left!

If you want something to be added, hurry up
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Amduscias on December 05, 2010, 02:07:24 AM
Quote
Eduardo Falaschi - From the metal band "Angra", who has played the songs of the Saint Seya anime for South America. He will play as actor and some music will be provided by him, including their song "Nova Era", whose name was added to the subtitle of the movie.

Ok, u got a fan now
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: TheForthcoming01 on December 06, 2010, 08:21:52 PM
Awesome!

Thanks for posting thisbtw  ;D
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on December 10, 2010, 08:42:26 AM
Eduardo Falaschi - Vocalist from the metal band "Angra"
who has played the songs of the Saint Seya anime for South America.
He will play as actor and some music will be provided by him,
including their song "Nova Era", whose name was added to the subtitle of the movie.


(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.headbanger.ru%2Ffmst%2Ffiles%2Fdata%2F31898.jpg&hash=5b5af4d4761b9bc5ed32bb2e1dba841d9120414c)


THAT'S AWESOME! JUST LISTEN

Angra - Heroes Of Sand (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHWBx_wUWX4#)
Angra - Nova Era (Live) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enx80RqF_gk#)


With his beautiful voice, great artist skills and gorgeous hair,
he could be acting as Alucard!
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Vrakanox on December 10, 2010, 10:55:44 AM
Yeah I was going to say, just get that guy to play Alucard.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: CristopherLee on December 10, 2010, 11:16:53 AM
About Alucard: I would like to see him as a comical character. But without making mock of him. I will explain my point...

In the Lord of the rings movies, the filmmakers transform Gimli into a comic character but making mock of him. They though that, the best way to make someone funny is making him stupid. I don't agree. When I read the original book, the only character that make me laugh is, actually, Gandalf with his brutal honestity. And, after the laughs, I still respect him for his wisdom and power.

Look at "The dark knight". The comic character is Alfred. And he his not a moron, but a very intelligent father figure. Look at "Conan the barbarian". The comic character is Subotai. And he is not a moron, but a very brave warrior.

I always find Alucard funny. Because his old-fashioned elegance, his ludicrous seriousness and his extremely pedantic language. But I still respect him for his ethics, his sword fighting skills, and his inner fight.

If you include a character like the son of Dracula in a movie, the easiest way to represent him is making him a troubled kid with daddy issues triying hard to be cool. You know, the kind of "twilight" character that EVERYBODY hates.


The thing is: a character can be funny AND cool at the same time.

And yes, I would love to see a "Lethal weapon" dynamic between Alucard and Simon. Why not? Long live to the "pulp" light hearted adventure.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: The Last Belmont on December 10, 2010, 06:33:09 PM
This is most likely going to be fantastic with the italians leniency towards gore and all the locations being at basically arms length. I didn't think it would be even remotely possible for a castlevania movie to do the series justice but now I have hope. (goes to watch The Beyond and City of The Living Dead)

I could write a coherent story for a CV movie that would work for the fans. I doubt anyone could write a story that would both please the fans and pass the scrutiny of the producers.

And that's precisely why fans need to be making a movie such as this for other members of the same fanbase. Maybe if Peter Jackson was doing it I might think it could be possible but like you said the complexity of the plot alone eats up  a lot of screen time and that's if they even stick to the established game canon. That was the problem with the next generation movies they kept trying to make them action extravaganzas to draw in more people but all we really wanted was just some adventure, exploration and a deep plot grounded in known and unproven science with the proper balance of action thrown in and the characters to act in line with their established personalities.

About Alucard: I would like to see him as a comical character. But without making mock of him. I will explain my point...

In the Lord of the rings movies, the filmmakers transform Gimli into a comic character but making mock of him. They though that, the best way to make someone funny is making him stupid. I don't agree. When I read the original book, the only character that make me laugh is, actually, Gandalf with his brutal honestity. And, after the laughs, I still respect him for his wisdom and power.

Greed corrupts all it touches. The best products are made out of love for the task at hand not want of currency. That's why I respect Peter Jackson. He makes what he desires. What he best feels the audience would like not what he can draw in the most crowds with to pump up the profits. And when a project is done superbly even if money was just an afterthought it will do well. Titanic is a good example. 
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: OrchidViperSCV4 on December 10, 2010, 11:33:09 PM
dudes check the facts, Edu Falaschi will play some music like "Nova Era", not actor
http://castlevaniafan.wikia.com/wiki/Vampire_Killer_Nova_Era (http://castlevaniafan.wikia.com/wiki/Vampire_Killer_Nova_Era)
maybe after this discussion, they will ask to Edu his participation like actor...maybe?
While Ben Isaac will play like actor as wolfman, don't forget Ben is also a guest star,
1° cause he was the first one to shooting video named Castlevania Prelude to war (He composed also the music that you hear in this trailer)
Ben Isaac Castlevania Prelude of War 2004 (2nd trailer) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uynIMeqwj9U#)
and
2° he composed Noir for Hellboy 2 The Golden Army directed by Guillermo Del Toro (Blade director)
Noir [Hellboy II] (Red Is For Fire) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kn5h-j6bw8Y#)
and
you can see also Ben in a little part inside hollywood movie named Spider Man directed by Sam Raimi (Ben appear during Wrestling part scene, Peter against Bones as wrestler fan)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2265397/bio (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2265397/bio)
This Castlevania fan production is very cool!
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on December 11, 2010, 06:49:58 AM
I remember Ben Isaac.

He actually posted news about the old "Prelude to War" Movie here, years ago.
I have the DVD of that, actually.

Most interesting.
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: buijon on December 11, 2010, 09:10:02 AM
Funny, his DVD sits up n my shelf as well. I remember it really having nothing to do with Castlevania really. Its a very old homemade looking short film, wonder if he still persues film making. Seems from his IMDB he is more a musician than anything now
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on December 23, 2010, 11:56:55 AM
Two channels on Youtube:

1) New - http://www.youtube.com/fanvisionchannel (http://www.youtube.com/fanvisionchannel)

2) Old - http://www.youtube.com/fanvisionfilms (http://www.youtube.com/fanvisionfilms)

Please subscribe!
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on April 30, 2011, 01:08:05 PM
BREAKING NEWS!
Everything is prepared and production will start soon, but they need the people!
Movie Casting started - please check this thread:
http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php?topic=3558.0 (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php?topic=3558.0)
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Renonsgoods on May 08, 2011, 10:52:20 PM
But there lies the problem. With 30 minutes of story, there's a lot of room for imagination, and what YOU see as a proper Castlevania movie might now be how the director sees it. This forum alone is proof about how fans can differ so greatly on what is "Castlevania"
THIS.
You know, we all go on and on about how it's possible for someone to make the "perfect" CV movie if they just do "this, this, and that".....and yet we weave page after page of nonstop arguments amongst ourselves everyday here over what is and is not a good Castlevania game.  How can anyone hope to condense the essence of this massive series into a 2 hour work of filmmaking that even the hardcore fans could really get behind???  Any such attempt is pretty much set up for failure before one even gets started.  
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: SOTN85yea on May 31, 2011, 08:54:00 AM
I don't think so...CV movie will be a good movie before hollywood productions ;)
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: Belmonto on May 31, 2011, 10:42:19 AM
THIS.
You know, we all go on and on about how it's possible for someone to make the "perfect" CV movie if they just do "this, this, and that".....and yet we weave page after page of nonstop arguments amongst ourselves everyday here over what is and is not a good Castlevania game.  How can anyone hope to condense the essence of this massive series into a 2 hour work of filmmaking that even the hardcore fans could really get behind???  Any such attempt is pretty much set up for failure before one even gets started.  

I have collected a LOT of very useful information from Castlevania fans,
(several pages of this discussion, and many other places in the Internet)
made a huge work to compile everything and make it clear! Then I sent it to Fanvision (in December last year).
All the information was carefully analyzed by Fanvision team and producer (they have reported to me)
that is why I am sure that everything will be done right! 8) Let's hope!  ;)
Title: Re: The REAL Castlevania Movie
Post by: BMC_War Machine on June 05, 2011, 12:48:57 PM
WE JUST WANT A FRIGGIN CASTLEVANIA MOVIE!!!!!!( a slamming good one!)