Topic: The REAL Castlevania Movie

[Richter]

I've forgotten to tell you the one very important thing.
The trailer was made BEFORE the decision to create this movie!
The 3D effects were made by just one man (by Diego Vida himself)
and it was shot by just two men (one was holding the camera)!
So, there is no surprise that, despite of the exciting atmosphere of this trailer, the quality is "not so good".

Stop calling it a trailer then, please. If it's a pre-vis or an effects test call it that. "Trailer" implies it's been cut from a finished product and will give the watcher a plot synopsis and a few reasons to see the full feature. This doesn't really give either of those.

If you want to make a proper CV movie, all you have to do is follow the games. Hollywood consistently fails to do this, because they either think they know better or are just too stupid to see what made the source material popular in the first place. Pick a game with more than one character like Rondo or Draculas Curse, write some interaction and character development based on what exists already and pick a few choice battles to depict to get those action beats in there. Look at what you're up against with existing fan movies - most are terrible, but you want to aim at the ones that actually get it right. You should also consider hiring a good intepreter because some of the subtitle work leaves a lot to be desired.

[X]

I hope they decided to drop the Belmont wielding a katana cause that was not good. Even though I love that type of sword, it just doesn't work with castlevania. And especially not with a Belmont.

-X

[Valtiel]

If you want to make a proper CV movie, all you have to do is follow the games. Hollywood consistently fails to do this, because they either think they know better or are just too stupid to see what made the source material popular in the first place.

It's not that. As I outlined before, the source material is almost never good movie material (in CV's case, being faithful to the source material would be quite hard since there's hardly any story); sure you can do a movie "for the fans" by sticking to the source material like glue, but you'll almost never get a good movie, and more importantly you'll hardly get a movie you can sell to nonfans. And since fans aren't going to be a wide enough audience (a game with 3 million followers is considered "huge", but a movie that 3 million people see is a flop), you're not gonna break even.

It's not like Hollywood is completely made of idiots. The problem is that they're unable to translate these games in actual movies (often because the source material hardly lends itself to it) and when they try to "expand" the appeal of the product they often do so thinking that gamers are drooling drones.

[Richter]

No they nearly always completely ignore the original story line. Look at Resident Evil, it's a complete crock. Expanding a game plot is not hard, they are just retards. Breaking it down into 20 minute or half hour segments is damn simple. Their best idea of Castlevania is a horrible mess if script outlines are to be believed.

Castlevania in easy 30 minute steps without fucking it up:
Note - this would need multiple characters for a script to work, have Trevor and his companions for example. This would also allow development such as Alucard's inner demons, someone for Trevor to express his trouble over the family's repeating destiny.
Act 1: Character setup - The Belmonts (action beat: some monster killing, love interest gets kidnapped)
Act 2: Draculas Castle - atmosphere and mood setup (action beat: simple enemy battles, skeletons etc. Half way point - cliffhanger)
Act 3: Inner castle - caves / laboratory / clock tower exploration (action beat: death trap escape, larger character battle)
Act 4: Kickass finale - But enough talk have at you! (epic scene and some fan service, a badass D transformation everyone wins)
Alternate plots that could be expanded - the Soma Cruz storyline, Richter and Maria, Leon and Mathias. It's not hard, filmakers are just idiots.

[knightmere]

I hate to be a negative nancy but...





THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO SUCK ASS!!!

[Munchy]

I hate to be a negative nancy but...





THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO SUCK ASS!!!

Yeah pretty much. As wonky as it is, I think LoS is the best we could hope to get from a movie anyway...

[Valtiel]

No they nearly always completely ignore the original story line. Look at Resident Evil, it's a complete crock. Expanding a game plot is not hard, they are just retards. Breaking it down into 20 minute or half hour segments is damn simple. Their best idea of Castlevania is a horrible mess if script outlines are to be believed.

Castlevania in easy 30 minute steps without fucking it up:
Note - this would need multiple characters for a script to work, have Trevor and his companions for example. This would also allow development such as Alucard's inner demons, someone for Trevor to express his trouble over the family's repeating destiny.
Act 1: Character setup - The Belmonts (action beat: some monster killing, love interest gets kidnapped)
Act 2: Draculas Castle - atmosphere and mood setup (action beat: simple enemy battles, skeletons etc. Half way point - cliffhanger)
Act 3: Inner castle - caves / laboratory / clock tower exploration (action beat: death trap escape, larger character battle)
Act 4: Kickass finale - But enough talk have at you! (epic scene and some fan service, a badass D transformation everyone wins)
Alternate plots that could be expanded - the Soma Cruz storyline, Richter and Maria, Leon and Mathias. It's not hard, filmakers are just idiots.

... and you'd have Van Helsing . Sure, change some names around but the format is essentially that.

My point is that most producers aren't confident that the source material can sell as a movie. They're stuck in a "ok this is good enough for toys, but for a BLOCKBUSTER we need to completely rewrite this stuff!" mentality.
Also, directors probably want to avoid sticking to close to the source material. I doubt you'll find a talented artist who's willing to apply for a "rewrite SCIV for the big screen and refrain from adding your own personal input" job.

It's nearly as simple as it sounds.

[Belmonto]

Hooray! I have managed to establish the communication with Fanvision (Diego and his assistant Oscar) !

Fans can join us you're welcome.

So, if you have any ideas and thoughts about the upcoming movie, post them here! Discuss!
The best ideas will be delivered to Fanvision.

[Richter]

Uh that's what we've been doing....

... and you'd have Van Helsing

Really? Yuck. Wasnt the plot something stupid about Dracula breeding via Frankenstein's monster and that he could only be defeated by a werewolf? ROFL. Not to mention the rest of it outside the story was equally horrible. I suppose it was of that low quality a game adaptation usually is of. The high grade writing, directing and acting skills needed for a good CV movie are unlikely to be attached to any attempts.

[knightmere]

Van Helsing wasn't that bad of a movie really. Though I really didn't like Dracula's character in it.

[Belmonto]

Good ideas - They are essential for this movie!
Have you any new good ideas?

P.S. I have already delivered the previous pile of good ideas (not miserable ) to Fanvision,
thanks to Valtiel and Richter, and I'm waiting for the second pile!

[Valtiel]

I suppose it was of that low quality a game adaptation usually is of. The high grade writing, directing and acting skills needed for a good CV movie are unlikely to be attached to any attempts.

Pardon me, but exactly when did CV have high grade writing, good direction or anything resembling acting?

I'm ALL for wanting an enventual movie made by people of unquestionable talent and vision, but let's not start talking like there's some quality writing in the source material. Heck, Hollywood would need to make up a story because there's barely any to begin with.

[Richter]

Pardon me, but exactly when did CV have high grade writing, good direction or anything resembling acting?

I'm ALL for wanting an enventual movie made by people of unquestionable talent and vision, but let's not start talking like there's some quality writing in the source material. Heck, Hollywood would need to make up a story because there's barely any to begin with.

So you're saying that game adaptations are supposed to have game quality acting? Sorry, but in a game, the gameplay is all important, and in a movie, writing and acting are all important. No cross over. Plus making a bunch of stuff up is uncecessary, expanding the existing canon to fill 90 minutes of screen time is though.  So what if the classic games have about 30 minutes worth of story combined, talented film makers should be able to use their imagination without making a horrible mess of it.

[e105beta]

So you're saying that game adaptations are supposed to have game quality acting? Sorry, but in a game, the gameplay is all important, and in a movie, writing and acting are all important. No cross over. Plus making a bunch of stuff up is uncecessary, expanding the existing canon to fill 90 minutes of screen time is though.  So what if the classic games have about 30 minutes worth of story combined, talented film makers should be able to use their imagination without making a horrible mess of it.

But there lies the problem. With 30 minutes of story, there's a lot of room for imagination, and what YOU see as a proper Castlevania movie might now be how the director sees it. This forum alone is proof about how fans can differ so greatly on what is "Castlevania"

[Vrakanox]

Good ideas - They are essential for this movie!
Have you any new good ideas?

P.S. I have already delivered the previous pile of good ideas (not miserable ) to Fanvision,
thanks to Valtiel and Richter, and I'm waiting for the second pile!

Make sure Alucard actually looks like Alucard. I mean in the first trailer, is that supposed to be him in the leather jacket and slicked back black hair? Also why is Leon Belmonts hair curly and black and why does he have a beard? They should try a little bit harder to make the characters look like the proper characters. It's a total B movie but I know I'll watch it